Ford/UAW Contract Not Only Seen As Painful But A Necessary Move as Well

KILL the UAW!!!!
There are many people sitting in umemployment lines that would beg for these jobs these whinning selfish pricks have. I am sorry if you disagree but the amount of money that these guys make including benefits is outragous for what they do. How dare them in these times especially demand things. They are killing themselves. Wait let me rephrase that. They have killed the AMerican Autombile.

I believe we need to all watch the movie "GungHO"

HyundaiSmoke, Why shouldn't they pay someone $10 an hour to make a $60k Caddilac? GM needs to stay profitable to stay in business, and right now they are losing billions of dollars. Clearly they cannot justify what the unions are making them pay.

If one feels you're being exploited, doesn't getting another job be the most rational thing to do? For me, as long as the pay is decent, I would stick to my job and do it properly and not complain. For Now.

This is senseless! People are losing jobs by the hundreds of thousands and these fools are demanding to preserve wages and health benefits, which are already way too generous. I have always stated before that the UAW holds us (the tax payers) all hostage all these years, and they have managed to do it again.

Since Ford did not cancel the UAW, I suggest the next move is ours not to bail out Ford with our tax money, and let it go into oblivion. Lets show the UAW the consequences of their greed and opulence.

If they were paying $10 an hour you would not have $60,000 cadillacs. The UAW is one of hte top reasons that cars are priced the way they are. Each car has to make money to pay for all the SHIT that the UAW demands for these workers.

There are people right now with higher educations taking jobs or would love to have a job that pays $10 an hour and would be proud to have them right now.

SPOILED EMPLOYEES and a RELENTLESS UNION that does not realize they are slowly killing the companies that feed them. (I mean HELLO it's not rocket science but we are paying them like it is.)

How can anyone make statements concerning auto workers, when they have never been there. I want you to stand in the kitchen, better yet, go to your bathroom and stand., now bend over and/or raise your arms high in the air, count to 10, start over and do this for l0 hours (sometimes 8) for one week, and then tell me all about your complaint. They deserve every penny they make, as 5% or so (of the selling price of the car) is all the company pays for hourly help. Toyota/mazda, one of these companys pay their employees more than UAW workers., but thats another story...... Royal

so what if the job is physical. ANYONE could walk in and with no prior training and do the job (given some basic on-the-job training.) That a job is physically tiring does not imply that it should be high-paying. If anyone off the street can walk in and do your job, you should thank your lucky stars that you got the job and not someone else. If you think the job sucks, look for a new one, start your own business, or get an education so that more jobs are available to you.

Standing there and lifting your hands over your head? I've seen the your UAW's workers do this with power-assist machines. If you want to talk about physical labor, lets talk about the UPS, FED-EX, and US Postal workers lifting 10-50 lbs boxes or more eight hours a day. You UAW are spoiled, selfish, and seriously delusional. You're biting the hands that feed you, and you will all lose your jobs unless you become more reasonable.

And the UWA workers don't make $10 per hour. It's more like $75 per hour. Personally, I believe $10 per hour for what they do is too low. But $15 per hour is just right.

Baloney... The aveo (and every other car) is priced where it will sell. Some automakers even sell certain cars at a small loss (ford focus) just to have a full model line.

In regard to your cycle comment... I don't see how dropping sales leads to rising wages. Totally backward.

Are you spamming here with 7+ posts in a row, or are you just putting up smoke screens to mask an obvious agenda? Are you a member of the UAW? What the hell are you talking about? Nothing you said makes sense. "Buyers are not buying so they raise prices super high as a desperate way to generate revenues, that makes wages go up..." How can they raise revenues when no one is buying because prices are "Super High?" And don't get me started on how, in your opinion, wages go up because no one is buying.

You are talking about inflation in general, but you've got it wrong...

In a slow or falling economy it can't work like that unless companies have access to huge amounts of cash. (they can't raise employee pay unless they have extra money to give to the employees) Today, most companies don't have large cash savings and they cannot borrow money either, due to the credit crunch. So even though employees are asking for more money, they can't give it to them. Thus if you raise prices, your sales will drop.

The only exception to this is if you sell a basic necessity and ALL of the other producers of this necessity raise their prices as well. But this will only help your industry at the detriment of other (non basic necessity) industries, who would have to lower prices in order to maintain sales. This price drop would offset the the price increase in your industry and overall inflation is unaffected.

Also, what someone is payed (ignoring unions for the moment) is based on how difficult it is to find and train someone for a particular job. Doctors make a lot of money because there are relatively few people that are qualified to be doctors, and the employers thus need to compensate them well in order to hire and keep them. The same goes for any job that requires extensive training. If there are a lot of people in your area that are qualified for a particular job, then the pay rate for that job will be less than for a position in which there are very few candidates.

A good example are teachers. My wife has a degree in teaching, and she has been searching for a full time teaching job for three years without success. In our area (Minnesota) teaching is a common major for people to choose in college, and there are LOTS of qualified teachers in the area. At the same time, she has received multiple unsolicited offers for jobs in the south and south-east, and for much more money than local teaching positions.

Its all about supply and demand.