Road Test: Hyundai's Genesis Coupe Scores A Direct Hit On The G37 - How Bad Will The Fallout Be?

Am I confused but what does this have to do with a G37. The Genesis competes with the Camaro, Mustang, Eclipse, RX-8, etc. Either way, don't think Infiniti needs to worry as I don't see these two cars being cross shopped with each other. The Genesis will do well with its target market of high school to young college kids.

the performance of the Genesis is somewhat behind that of the G37

Take a look at the target audience and G37 is right there.

I think the Genesis Coupe will benefit from the same trickle down effect the G35/37 coupes did. Those that bought the G35/37 did not want to pay the premium for the (superior) 3-Series coupe. In turn, the Genesis Coupe buyer will not want to pay the premium for the (superior) G37 coupe. They will still get a great coupe though it seems.

Would this however be a trickle up effect over the ol' Hyundai sCOUPE?

The problem is that to buy one you have to give your money to dog eaters.

http://animalrightskorea.org/yellow-dog-video.html

Do your own research and I think you will see it is wrong to support it in anyway.

When will the Agents realize that this is hateful and racist?

Watch the video tough guy. It doesn't have anything to do with their race, but it has EVERYTHING to with their BEHAVIOR. Have you ever heard the quote about judging people by the content of their CHARACTER? Well, torchering, beating, burning, and skinning a loving, loyal, and social dog while it is fully conscious is wrong in every way. How can you ignore such an atrocity?

And there have been no atrocities committed by Americans?

America, YOU are what is wrong with America. Get your brainless inbred self off your sister and get out of the trailer once in awhile.

Agents, what is taking so long to get this garbage off???

Turbo, sure what he posted it exists, but there are atrocities committed all over the world, why single our Korea? What is more important is the intention of the message. That is your problem Mr. Math guy, all you see is black and white and facts, you don't understand context. The intention of the message was hateful and unfortunately you do not understand that, you obviously lack compassion.

So now telling the truth is hate speech?! I had no idea that there were so many people who condone/promote the torcher of sentient animals. It is disturbing and repulsive. There are so many silly "arguments" above attempting rationalize these unethical acts, for example, fighting contests between consenting, professional fighters? Zero relevance. Or, that mistreatment of animals in the USA (which is also wrong) somehow negates the agony of an animal in Asia. Beyond ridiculous. Go on people, I dare you to watch at least three videos of how dogs and cats are treated in Asia in the food and fur trades and then just TRY to sleep at night as a defender of this. Maybe after you hear the screams of agony as the skin is peeled off of a live Shepard or Racoon dog the few of you with any heart at all will change your position.

Anyway, I choose not to send my money to these people (and I make similar choices about where I spend money in the USA)

"I wish America, Canada, Europe, Australia and New Zealand had immigration laws like Korea, China and Japan. Deboost if you agree." Remember, context.

Funny, a good friend of mine (a Morrocan Jew from Canada) had no problems when he moved to China, set up shop, and was easily accepted into society.

Turbo, why are you so hateful? It really makes you look like a bitter little person.

America, I could post some pretty gory videos of other people committing atrocities, even here in the USA. Dog fighting comes quickly to mind (Michael Vick), How about torture at Guantanamo Bay? Should we judge Americans based solely on that?

"Everything is not equal. And in the West we need to get back to the "birds of a feather" thing that the Asian nations still practice."

Your fear of others is very apparent.

If you say that we should get back to birds of a feather then I'm betting that you think that we should bring back segregation and that Apartheid in South Africa was right. Maybe you should just bury yourself in you math equations because it seems that you'll never understand the real world.

Turbo, why so much hate?

Absolutely.

Canada, and it's a great, multicultural place to live, contrary to what some people have tried to say.

What have dogs to cars? LOL

--> animal forum

Turbo,

By your reasoning, then Europeans should not be allowed and should not have been allowed to immigrate to North America. In fact, the first people in North America were Asians. They crossed the ice bridge. So what would you say of an African that wanted to immigrate to the USA vs a European?

"In Canada it's very similar to the U.S."

Actually it's not. I have friends of all types and of all races and most people do, at least those that live in cities. Come and visit some time. The one thing that strikes me when I visit the US is that people there care much more about race than we do.

"They were defeated in war fair and square."

What do you mean fair and square? You really have no understanding of history. So then, let's say that China was to invade the USA and kill everyone with nukes. Then they moved to the USA. So that would be fair and square? You're delusional. Bible thumping doesn't help either. If you want this world to be a better place start looking at yourself and how you can contribute. We're all in this together.

Wow, I don't know what to say. Do you even understand the word hypothetical? That comment I made was for comparison purposes, not like I would ever think that would happen. It was to show how ridiculous your line of reasoning is that you think that Europeans arrived here in North America and killed native Americans and that they won that war fair and square. Now you think they have exclusive rights to immigrate here and no one else. Your are beyond hope. You are just angry because because you're scared.

Why in the world are we talking about how other country eating their animals in a blog about cars? And what is so wrong about eating a animal that is raised to be consume? Some people on earth find the cow to be holy, while we consume the most beef in the world. Does this mean, we are less holy or humane then people from India? We American are way too spoiled by going to super market chain to buy their steaks and go to McDonald's to eating quarter pounder with cheese. Some of you should wake up and look around, it's whole different world out there.

I am not saying everybody should shut up about the way people brutally kill some of the friendliest, beautiful and rare animals, but let's not judge any race by what they eat. And I am 100% sure every Korean don't torture, kills and eats dogs and every people in Japan eats Whales.

'America' is an idiot. He thinks ALL Koreans treat dogs this way, even people who work for Hyundai. Well, 'America' is wrong. The video 'America' posted is made by a Korean group, which means there are Korean activists who are against dog meat. There are many many Koreans who love dogs as companions and not food.
He just posted this because he feels the agony of his country's Garbage 3 not doing well these days. And he can't do anything but just put up something silly that is completely unrelated to the Genesis Coupe to tease on Korean auto industry. I bet his IQ is lower than that of a typical dog.

onetime, you do not know what I think so you have no place to say. You do not know my "IQ" so you have no place to say. And if you knew one thing about debate or a proper logical argument you would know that making personal attacks is the lowest form of argument and it ALWAYS gives away the weakness of your position. So thank you for giving away your lack of a single intelligent thought. Well done.

Yeah...
Thinking us American are superior to other is going to take us very long. You have flaw if you think us cow, pig and chicken eaters are more superior then other that eats dogs, dolphins, whales, cats, bugs and any other. While I completely stand against animal cruelity, other countries have their cultures and history. I just have my beef when they torture like on that video before they kill their meals. Like I said before, eating cow, pig and chicken are no less/more civilize then those eats others.

America,
You have ALREADY made a personal attack on the Korean auto industry by making a crappy argument. You don't actually know what Hyundai members think about dogs. It seems that you are bad at reasoning. This is why I think your IQ is as low as a dog.

"That was the law up until 1965 until some drunken, adulterous Irish-American whose father got wealthy smuggling alcohol during prohibition spearheaded a campaign to change it."

No, because it was wrong to exclude groups based on race just as segregation was wrong and so many things that you finally realized. You built a country declaring all people are equal and say that you're so great and then you exclude others from it? Typical hypocritical bible thumping attitude. I can understand how a person like you could be scared, but you don't have to be.

You could always tell what kids in college bought their own cars and who got cars from their parents. Thank god I was the latter.

Oh yeah... The Crossfire was a great idea!!!! The Crossfire Market? What and When was that. I see a few now and then because you can buy one for nothing at CARMAX.

Right, meanwhile ignoring the original people of the US, Native Americans, and the people that were brutally used as slaves. The US "appeared" to be working when it was predominantly WASP but the truth is much different than that.

Why do you think that having compassion for the suffering of dogs means that I don't care about other injustices? Or, that I don't work hard? I work my ass off and have for decades. Think it through about what you really know and don't know about me before you make assumptions and claims.

What I cannot understand is why you feel you can't be a good person in each part of your life. It is perfectly possible to want to stop needless suffering and not be a political socialist.

It is perfectly right to be concerned about the welfare of any living thing. However, we are only questioning why you singled out Korea, as if you had some hatred towards them. I mean, someone could have posted something horrible about any group from any nation and then say that they would never buy that country's products.

"Let's go back to what worked in America. W.A.S.P."

America is still working quite good, overall.

43LE, it isn't hatred toward an entire people. It's the level of senseless suffering inflicted by not only the individuals that do the abuse and killing and the purchasers of the products, but the indifference of a culture that allows it that I speak against. It could easily be stopped if enough people took action. What is wrong with wanting this to be a better place?

Nothing wrong with that, it was the tone of what you posted, it came of as being hateful. What if I were to say that I won't buy products from the USA because chickens suffered in cages and pigs lived horrible lives in filth infested rooms. What if I said that dogfighting (even though illegal in the US like this type of dog killing in Korea is) was the reason we should not buy products from the USA? I only wanted to enlighten you to the fact that others are not always the demons that we think they are and that sometimes before we criticize we need to look inwards.

43LE, you should do just what you say. It is one of the only ways to change anything in this world. I despise all of the things you mentioned and hitting them in the pocket book is one of the only resources we have. If you see a gross injustice you should feel compelled, like I do, to take a step toward correcting it. I don't get the impression that you and I really disagree about this though.

No, I do agree but if you make a comment like you did above about the "dogeaters", then the same thing applies to eating pork or chickens that were grown in cages. Should I no longer buy US products?

43LE: yes, if you feel strongly about it. I think everyone has an obligation to make thoughtful choices. You are right about there being serious issues in the US as well as other places.

abcd, thanks for the compliment.

"America is still working quite good, overall."

Let me guess, Turbospyder blames other groups for the economic problems the US is having.

It's hard to compare Hyundai Genesis Coupe to 240Z at its times, at the time of 240Z Nissan has already made some real, track sports cars (links below), Hyundai even to this day haven't built any real sports car (in fact there aren't any motor racing in Korea), Hyundai isn't company that wants to do superior engineered cars but it's a company that wants to make money on cars like it's doing on fridges and other white goods.

http://www.jsae.or.jp/autotech/data_e/1-34e.html
http://www.jsae.or.jp/autotech/data_e/1-45e.html

The G37 is irrelevent and hasn't really created any buzz. I'm not sure why the G37 keeps getting mentioned here. The Hyundai will create buzz.

Well stated, that is how I feel. It is a good car but aimed at a different market. Those shopping for a G37, 3 series, or A5/S5, won't be cross shopping it with the Genesis. However, those shopping for a Eclipse, Mustang, RX8 and others like that, will cross shop it.

Just because someone is able to afford something (G37/A5/335) doesn't mean that they are obliged to purchase it.

I wouldn't be suprised if Hyundai out performed the G37. The Company has gone beyond their usual standard just to compete with High Performance luxury entry vehicles.

What article says this scores a direct hit on the G37? The one attached here certainly doesn't. It's close in some areas but short in the ones which make the difference. The Genesis coupe is a bold step for Hyundai. If anything it shows how much more ambitious they are than companys like Honda and Toyota.

But all this stuff about it stealing sales from the G37 are hogwash. It's more a 370z competitor and in that contest it gets trounced. It's a very good coupe with back seats and a high degree of style and performance.

C&D got 5.7s to 60 and Edmunds got 6.4s to 60 both having .5s diff in 1/4 mile. Strange how one car can be diff than another or just plain ole crappier drivers. I am not expecting much from this car.

On sale since March???


It's still February in my part of the world.

'America'....I love my country and while we are by far the greatest nation in the world, we are far from the self-sufficient independent nation we once were, just a few decades ago.

Our leaders are going to these nations you hate, begging them for money to fund our stupid spending habits(680 billion for universal health care etc.). So while you will not send them any money due to your ignorant, naive and misguided beliefs based on a adhoc video(I can post hundreds of animal cruelty videos linking every 1st world nation to animal cruelty), you're leaders are pretty much on their hands and knees begging them to send us money.

The irony is in the disparity....

why does this site keep forcing the idea that the genesis coupe will compete with the G37?

I think it only competes in their minds. Anyone looking to buy a G37 or 3 series, won't be cross shopping it with the Genesis. Someone shopping for an Eclipse would though.

If you want to checkout some other comparisons of the Genesis Coupe vs the Infiniti 37 or just get tons more info on the Genesis coupe head over to http://genesisforums.org they have a ton of good info and discussions on the car.

HyundaiSmoke, It sounds like you are assuming that I am a Republican, you would be wrong in that assumption. There are other choices besides the two you have told about. It sounds like you either don't know what socialism really is or that you think society owes you something. Lazy people want something for nothing. Socialism takes away the motivation for people to work and innovate and theocratic Republicanism is the new Feudalism. It's time to look for other options. The original definition of "liberal" in this country was small government and strong civil rights, a combination that the two major parties do not offer.

That is a dumb lookin' Hunydai.

Give me a Mustang GT convertible lowered with 20 inch wheels and replace the fake gas cap with a panel that says GT and I'll be good to go down PCH to Laguna Beach.

Edmunds and Popular Mechanics both had a Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs G37 Coupe comparison. The Hyundai comes out on top for every one so far.

Good looking car.

I don't know why they keep comparing it against the G37 - the Genesis Coupe is much better compared with the 370Z. The G37 is one pig of a near -luxury coupe, where the Genesis Coupe is a sporty track ready coupe. Nonetheless, the reviews toward it seem good, with small problems like overly-aggressive traction control (that can't be turned off), shifter feel, and some ergonomic issues.

http://www.genesisdriven.com - A Hyundai Genesis Coupe enthusiast community

I saw four Genesis Sedans driving around North Charlotte in one day last month. Maybe it's just your area.

There won't be any fall out of note--so cut out the fear mongering ASSHOLES