GENEVA MOTOR SHOW: Infiniti Stops The Show With The Jaw Dropping Essence Concept

GENEVA MOTOR SHOW: Infiniti Stops The Show With The Jaw Dropping Essence Concept
The essence of the Infiniti brand distilled into one car and then taken to the extremes to satisfy the world's most demanding car enthusiasts ... this is the Infiniti Essence.

Presented as a concept at the 79th International Motor Show of Geneva, Essence is a celebration of Infiniti and its 20 years history as a creator of performance cars. But equally it is an inspiring exploration into the brand's future.

The dramatic design, technology and performance statement is a 600PS, petrol/electric hybrid coupe with rear-wheel drive. What Essence is not is merely an indulgent birthday present from Infiniti to itself.

This concept embodies Infiniti's core values as an inspiration for the future as much a celebration of the past. Essence showcases many of the technologies, including hybrid, and design cues that will distinguish Infiniti production cars of the coming years. And by steering Infiniti's guiding principle of "Inspired Performance" into the super-performance, super-luxury coupe market for the first time, it reaffirms Infiniti's place among the world's most exclusive and vibrant car brands.

ESSENCE: AN OVERVIEW
• A front-engined, two-seat, 600PS luxury coupe concept, 4.7m long
• First motor show preview of Infiniti's petrol/electric hybrid drivetrain
• Capable of vast speeds where conditions allow, zero emissions where they don't
• Rear-wheel drive for maximum driver involvement
• Fresh design language to influence future production models
• Previews new safety technology including Back-up Collision Prevention
• Minimalist and intensely driver-focused interior
• "New luxury" meets traditional Japanese craftsmanship
• Bespoke Louis Vuitton fitted luggage to maximise trans-continental capability

ESSENCE: THE CONCEPT
"An Essence owner is characterized by his or her fearless self confidence; he or she is an intellectual hero rather than just a successful money maker."
Francois Bancon, General Manager Advanced Product Planning

Essence began life not in the design studio but in Infiniti's product planning department. Francois Bancon, General Manager Advanced Product Planning, and his team might not, at the start of the project, have known how Essence would look, but they did know what it had to be, why it had to exist – and who it would appeal to.

"Essence is a brand icon," Francois Bancon said. "It is driven more by a conceptual approach than by any design execution. It is not just an object. It isn't a teaser for a new model. It is solely dedicated to Infiniti brand promotion, to demonstrate and advocate the Infiniti unique values."

The concept called for a very clear understanding of who the super-luxury coupe's potential customers would be. Painstakingly, Bancon and his team of advanced product planners built up a picture of a typical Essence owner. It was a profile that showed an uncompromising, risk-taking 42-year-old passionate about the best things in life, but equally passionate about not flaunting them. "These consumers don't need to demonstrate to others," said Bancon. "They are already at the next step of achievement that leads to rewarding themselves first."

Francois Bancon went on: "We wanted a new way of mixing various ingredients to get a car that was reserved but with a big presence, something trendy but also indicating the next trend. We wanted a car that aspired to become a cult. It had to be exclusive, smart and mysterious. For the driver, it had to sum up the six-word essence of Essence:

Everything I want, nothing I don't

ESSENCE IN DETAIL

1. DESIGN: DYNAMIC ADEYAKA

"The design embeds a sense of mystery, a sense of being in the know. Essence is not about showing signs of wealth and success."

Shiro Nakamura, Senior Vice President of Design

With breathtaking good looks and perfect proportions, Essence exerts a powerful pull on all those who love cars. It looks like a driver's car, one that would be right at home spearing down the world's grandest motoring routes.

But Essence is no aggressive sports car. Infiniti's "Dynamic Adeyaka" attitude ensures Essence is single-minded, but also inviting, sophisticated and born of inspiration from both the human and natural worlds. To further boost its emotional appeal, it features details that bring a very modern take to some very old Japanese traditions.

The designers' aim was to merge all existing Infiniti design cues with fresh design language in a shape that the 20-year-old marque has never before attempted. The result is highly sculptural yet also very delicate. Essence speaks of power but not intimidation.

The bonnet is, as you would expect of an Infiniti, long, and the rear deck short. Together with a flowing "wave" profile between muscular front and rear wheelarches, Essence at first appears to be in the classic sports car mould. But there is nothing retro about Essence.

The side window graphics bring a particularly innovative and distinctive edge to the styling. The window appears to be resting on a ledge, its razor sharp line in contrast to the concave sweep of the upper body just below it. Imagine juxtaposing flowing water with the stark outline of a canyon landscape.

The rear section also features complex surfacing with concave "scoops" that flow down the rear pillars from one of Essence's most distinctive design cues: a C-shaped kink to the side windows' trailing edge. Outlined by a wide flourish of stainless steel, it adds instant movement to the car even when it is standing still.

One of the most distinctive details is the trim around the side air vents. The simple yet delicate shape, finely finished in aluminium, is based on the "kanzashi", a hairpin used by women when wearing the kimono. Other lines and details are inspired by the wide brush strokes of Japanese calligraphy. Essence represents a successful merging of iconic cultural cues with automotive aesthetics.

Essence's front is characterised by Infiniti's signature double-arch grille, set at an angle that suggests the car is about to leap forward. There is an illuminated Infiniti badge at its heart. Rounded corners effectively hide the front overhang and make this 4.7m-long car appear anything but big in the flesh.

The grille is framed by subtle strips of stainless steel but there's little other trim and no other grilles or intakes, not even foglights. At the front as over the rest of the car, Essence eschews superfluous body embellishments that could interrupt the graceful strength of the whole. The door handles are slithers of push buttons flush with the body while even rear-view mirrors must make way for minuscule cameras teased out of the A-pillars.

More familiar Infiniti cues include the lights. At the front the signature L-shaped modules taper back on to the bulging guards, picked out at their top edge by a row of LEDs. Slender fillets of red light curve around the car at the back, overlapping with the boot opening and framing the vestigial spoiler. Edged by more stainless steel, the spoiler appears to have been pushed out from within the car.

The windscreen flows back into a full glass roof that then tapers down towards the boot opening – making just one more memorable view of a car that doesn't have a wrong angle to it.

On design, Essence is simple and amazingly complex, classical and totally dynamic all at the same time. Most of all as the epitome of "dynamic adeyaka" it boasts massive presence. Once seen, never forgotten.


2. INTERIOR: DRIVER-FOCUSED
"Detailed artistic expression and the rich warmth of the human hand go far beyond mechanical precision."
Shiro Nakamura, Senior Vice President of Design

For a driver's car, the perfect driver's cabin. Essence's interior is minimalist, ergonomic and totally focused on the job in hand: to give the person behind the wheel a feeling of absolute control. And yet all this driver focus goes hand in hand with a passenger area dominated by comfort, calm and elegance to offer the kind of hospitality that is so important to the Japanese people, and also to Essence.

The asymmetrical cabin is divided into two areas separated by a large curving console between the seats that sweeps around to merge with the centre of the dashboard. The result is two very distinct cocoons. The driver's side is themed black, the passenger's "cocoon" an earthy red.

A flat-bottomed steering wheel and chronometer-style dials announce to the driver this is a serious performance machine. There are no gimmicks or sci-fi solutions here, just single-minded dedication to driving. Witness the technical nature of the displays, the short, alloy-topped gear selector and, just in front of it another finger-flick away, the bright red engine start button.

The car wraps itself around the driver who can quickly relax with the Infiniti trademarks of supportive seat and perfect driving position. There are more Infiniti cues such as the big gearchange paddle shifters behind the wheel and the analogue clock in the centre of the dash.

Infiniti designers believe the best functionality works behind the scenes, appearing only when needed. They call this "hidden tech", and it's the key to the functional minimalism that dominates the control layout. By not baffling drivers with buttons or overburdening them with information, Essence offers a sense of well-being to everyone, allowing them to focus entirely on enjoying the energizing driving experience.

With the materials used – leather, Alcantara, hand-painted wood inspired by traditional Japanese lacquerware – the cabin exudes a rich and inviting warmth. Attention to detail is such that even the leather seams on the seat backs differ from left side to right side. Why? So they can accurately reflect the way Japanese men and women tie their kimonos.

Essence's interior promotes a sense of well-being which is key to the Infiniti driving experience.


3. DRIVETRAIN: POWER WITH RESPONSIBILITY
"Infiniti's performance feel has been captured as natural dynamism, like energy rising from within."
Francois Bancon, General Manager Advanced Product Planning

Essence's drivetrain is designed to meet the highest expectations of owners by delivering the one thing everyone expects of an Infiniti – sheer driving pleasure. In Essence that pleasure is taken to new heights, at the same time as previewing an innovative green hybrid engine.

Essence is unusual even in the rarefied atmosphere of the world's fastest road cars by being able to call on a mighty 600PS (592bhp). The power guarantees high performance responses on any road, in any situation. Essence is not, however, an intimidating sports racer. Like the design, the performance is designed to be sophisticated and unobtrusive – performance with a human touch.

The hybrid system is a logical extension of Infiniti parent group's groundbreaking green commitments. It offers power with efficiency, and high performance with zero-emissions running, by combining a petrol engine with an electric motor. These can work independently or together as a "parallel" hybrid system.

In congested urban areas, the electric motor alone is all that is needed for Essence to glide silently between stoplights, with no tailpipe emissions.

When the traffic clears, Essence responds with a highway performance that few cars could match. In "power assist" mode the full 600PS is unleashed with both petrol and electric power working together.

A key difference over some other hybrid systems is that both the V6 and the electric motor feed their power only to the rear wheels. Performance is more linear, response is crisper – and driving pleasure further enhanced – as a result.

Infiniti's familiar 3.7-litre V6 gasoline engine is fitted with twin turbochargers, boosting power to 440PS (434bhp). A new direct-injection fuel system ensures the engine works more efficiently than ever in Essence.

Essence previews a new type of electric motor, called 3D Motor, that was designed to meet tough requirements on size and power output. The result is a particularly slim, disk-shaped motor that has twice the torque of a conventional unit. Its design was achieved by 3D magnetic field analysis to optimize the layout of the electromagnetic coils and permanent magnets.

In Essence, the motor is positioned between the engine and transmission and provides 160PS (158bhp), drawing power from a compact lithium-ion battery pack in the boot area. Because the 3D Motor operates in both propulsion and power regeneration modes, the battery pack is kept charged up.

Optimized energy useage across the widest possible range of driving conditions is guaranteed by two separate clutches which "switch in" the motors as required. It is a system that needs no torque converter, further enhancing responsiveness and driving pleasure.


4. SAFETY: A COLLISION-FREE FUTURE
On a global level, Infiniti is committed to building safer vehicles equipped with advanced safety technologies.

Essence previews some of the next-generation safety features that will ensure Infiniti cars remain among the safest on the road. Chief among them is a "Safety Shield" that goes a long way towards the Infiniti engineers' dream of a collision-free car.

The Safety Shield adds two new technologies to the Distance Control Assist (DCA) and Lane Departure Prevention (LDP) systems that are available in today's production Infinitis. Side Collision Prevention (SCP) and Back-up Collision Prevention (BCP) extend the anti-collision shield all the way around the car.

With SCP, when the driver decides to change lanes, side-mounted sensors activate a warning if an approaching vehicle is detected in the driver's intended lane. A yaw mechanism is then activated through brake control of individual wheels to help prevent a potential collision. Back-up Collision Prevention works in a similar way, sensing a vehicle behind, giving the driver a warning but then, if the warning is not heeded, activating the brakes automatically.

The warning system and pre-emptive safety features are designed to help support the driver in an intuitive manner with minimal intervention.


5. PRACTICALITY: A VERY BESPOKE SOLUTION
The team behind Essence harked back to an early motoring era to find the right solution for carrying luggage. The result is as classy as luggage ever gets, surprisingly practical and dreamily romantic. It also re-establishes the historic ties between a carmaker and one of the best-known names in luxury goods – Louis Vuitton.

Vuitton first worked with a coachbuilder – the famous Kellner company – in 1908, equipping one of their early luxury limousines with a set of bespoke luggage. Other coachbuilders quickly beat a path to Vuitton's door in Paris. Made-to-measure Vuitton trunks were an integral feature of some of the greatest cars of the first part of the 20th century.

The collaboration between Infiniti and Vuitton revives the idea of a set of the highest quality luggage made to fit exactly a car's boot area. In Essence there are three rigid pieces: a matched pair of slender briefcases atop a large trunk. All are made in the new Damier Graphite canvas and feature sleekly integrated handles and an overall design in harmony with the car itself.

There is hi-tech, too. A button on the key fob electrically opens the boot lid, allowing the boot floor to slide silently rearwards. This is one boot an owner will never have to struggle to access.

In a nod at tradition, the cases even bear the initials of their owner – SN, standing for Shiro Nakamura, Senior Vice President of Design.

6. INFINITI: 20 YEARS OF PERFORMANCE CARS

The Essence has been 20 years in the making. For that is how long the essence of the marque – its very being, a distillation of everything that Infiniti stands for – has taken to reach its current state of perfection.

The idea behind Infiniti was first discussed in 1985 but it wasn't until November 1989 that the first Infiniti model was sold in North America. Today it is the fastest growing luxury brand in the US.

But it is also far more than just a US brand. Today Infiniti has more than 230 dealers in 15 countries with worldwide sales of 150,000 annually.

Infiniti's success is down to many things, not least the "Dynamic Adeyaka" attitude behind every Infiniti model. When Adeyaka meets The Total Ownership Experience the result is the three pillars of Infiniti: driving pleasure, hospitality and peace of mind.

All these values are perfectly summed up by Essence which is revealed at the Geneva Motor Show of 2009 not only to coincide with the marque's 20th anniversary, but also in the midst of the brand's current challenge: to take on the European market.



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HSCenterconsoleHSCenterconsole - 3/3/2009 9:21:10 AM
+4 Boost
A great concept and very sleek looking. The only styling detail I dislike is that odd, chrome kink on the c-pillars.


cocococococo - 3/3/2009 10:14:48 AM
+5 Boost
I like the kink because it is different from the usual, and because it produces a sharp, arrow-like effect in what is usually a staid, chunky part of a car.

I'd buy the thing.


njsidekick3njsidekick3 - 3/3/2009 11:36:49 AM
+8 Boost
WOW... if this came in as the Flagship Coupe... GT-R engine... Damn, id upgrade to one.


njsidekick3njsidekick3 - 3/3/2009 3:48:25 PM
+6 Boost
i think Infiniti should ditch the sedan flagship idea & make "this" coupe a production model Flagship... The Q Coupe. Just update that M & let it ride. (IMO)


E36erE36er - 3/3/2009 4:58:57 PM
+1 Boost
The front air dam and instrument cluster are a bit over designed but otherwise nice job Infiniti.


B7FANB7FAN - 3/4/2009 7:30:40 AM
+1 Boost
THE ONLY THING ORIGINAL ABOUT THAT IS THE CHRYSLER FIREPOWER CONCEPT THEY ARE IDENTICAL.....BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT IT DOES LOOK PRETTY SWEET.....

http://ultimatecarpage.com/car/2146/Chrysler-Firepower-Concept.html



_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 9:21:36 AM
-2 Boost
Nice! The only thing I don't like is the rear 3/4, it is too fussy.


Agent004Agent004 - 3/3/2009 7:21:53 PM
+3 Boost
It's cool looking - but how hard is it to make a cool looking concept?

The tough thing now is producing it.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 9:30:10 AM
-18 Boost
YUCK!


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 9:50:21 AM
+11 Boost
Put a German label on it and you'd love it, you know it.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 9:49:58 AM
+11 Boost
Well, we all know that you're a badge whore.


rigidrigid - 3/3/2009 9:43:33 AM
-9 Boost
WOW the front of an RX-8 got together with the rear of a Genisis Coupe.


dlindlin - 3/3/2009 4:12:46 PM
-4 Boost
You are so blind.

The front is GT-R and back is FX. Curved twice.


kpaxxkpaxx - 3/3/2009 9:43:58 AM
+4 Boost
Looks a lot like a Alfa Competizione 8C


bigmotovbigmotov - 3/3/2009 9:50:40 AM
+6 Boost
Damn! Very sleek, very nice!


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 3/3/2009 10:30:11 AM
+2 Boost
I like the yin and yang style two-tone interior. I really like how the cockpit comes together. The gauges are nice too. I admit I do not like anything Infiniti, but this is very nice. Aggressive, stylish and the gauges are very supercar inspired. seriously, I think infiniti's are overpriced nissans, and nissans are junk, but this is nice! I give them props.
the only thing I would change is puting the infiniti logo on the front of the hood, then coming up with a nice horizontal slat grille. it would give the car much more pressence.


PlanBPlanB - 3/3/2009 10:30:40 AM
+7 Boost
At first thought it looks like it has too many lines and kinks but after staring at the pics for a few minutes I like it. That glass roof pic from the top is awesome.


holmstarholmstar - 3/3/2009 10:35:33 AM
-5 Boost
so basically this is the Infiniti GTR.


holmstarholmstar - 3/4/2009 8:55:32 AM
0 Boost
Not sure why I got deboosted. This concept almost certainly shares tons of parts with the gtr. And the gtr is an awesome car. ???


bouzoukibouzouki - 3/3/2009 10:38:09 AM
+9 Boost
it looks like a maserati coupe


0to600to60 - 3/3/2009 10:22:26 PM
+2 Boost
maserati meets the infiniti FX


0to600to60 - 3/3/2009 10:49:46 AM
+5 Boost
Im in love!


njsidekick3njsidekick3 - 3/3/2009 12:52:40 PM
+1 Boost
yea... the 6series looks "granny" next to this.


answeranswer - 3/3/2009 11:20:06 AM
0 Boost
Beautifully done!

Now how fast will it come out, and will the economy be ready when it does?


WillisWillis - 3/3/2009 11:32:19 AM
-5 Boost
It has a very European "wannabe" touch to it. Almost reminds me of some of those Ferrari's from the 1960s like a 250GT SWB.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 12:04:47 PM
-1 Boost
To you it might appear as a European "wannabe", but if you knew anything about classic Japanese design you would not think that way.


WillisWillis - 3/3/2009 12:22:19 PM
-6 Boost
Oh dear me! My comment was perceived to be an attack on the holy empire of Japan! My sincerest apologies!

Classic Japanese design? That is an oxymoron, right? Up to the early 1980s the Japanese were known to copy American and European design. That's a fact. It wasn't until the mid 1980s that Japanese car design began to take place.

By the way, I suspect that you're also indirectly referring to the Toyota 2000GT. It was designed by a German who offered the design to Datsun. Datsun refused but Toyota snatched it up. Don't believe me? Look it up. The man who designed the Toyota 2000GT also was responsible for the legendary BMW 502 and 503 cars: Count Albrecht Goertz. Essentially, one of the most famous Japanese cars is actually of German / European heritage. Furthermore there were many similar designs in Europe at the time, including the aforementioned Ferrari 250GT.

Have a nice day.


WillisWillis - 3/3/2009 12:23:21 PM
-8 Boost
Whoops, my post should read:

It wasn't until the mid 1980s that Japanese car design began to take SHAPE.


answeranswer - 3/3/2009 12:40:12 PM
+4 Boost
Willis, you are consistantly one of the biggest jackasses on this site.

That is a fact.

My question to you is why? Why do you feel a need to deny Japanese brands of any merit? Why can't you aknowledge that in today's world great cars can come from both Europe and Asia?

Your arguments are always a mix of poor logic and despiration, sewn together by a thread of extreme bias.

Perhaps if you despise Japanese cars so, maybe you could avoid posting in topics covering them?

This would allow the rest of us, those not as narrowminded as yourself, to discuss things without the constant negativity you seem to need to provide.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 12:52:35 PM
+3 Boost
Uh, classic Japanese design goes back for centuries...


WillisWillis - 3/3/2009 1:01:28 PM
-5 Boost
I am one of the biggest jackasses on this site? You know I offended someone when I am being attacked with personal insults.

I defended my opinion against 43LE. Japanese car design really took off in the mid 1980s. Before that, the vast majority of Japanese automotive designs were inspired by American and European automotive styling. Nowhere in my post do I attack the Japanese and their cars in any way. I was merely presenting an opinion that is often considered a fact already.

43LE: No, you specifically referred to Japanese AUTOMOBILE design in your post quoting me, not OTHER Japanese designs.


answeranswer - 3/3/2009 1:35:38 PM
+5 Boost
Personal insult? It's not an insult if it's an accurate description buddy.

And you continue to personally isult all of us by jumping into every Japanese/Asian topic and poo-pooing whatever is being discussed.

It's not just this story, it's your post history. A history that can be seen by simply clicking on your little icon.

You keep harping on the topic of originality and who did what first. But when I look at the front end of this concept, I see a natural evolution of the second gen Q sedan front end. Am I wrong?

What makes your logic faulty, and also makes you a jackass, is that you will point out every single thing Asian cars have supposedly copied. But you'll probably run out of breath trying to say the new 7 wasn't influenced by the current Lexus LS.

You're the type of person that would drool over a BMW unicycle, but will cry foul if the font on the gascap of Lexus looks too similar to a German rival.

Again, if Asian cars bother you so, don't come into posts discussing them.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 2:34:32 PM
+2 Boost
"43LE: No, you specifically referred to Japanese AUTOMOBILE design in your post quoting me, not OTHER Japanese designs."

Where did I specifically refer to Japanese Automobile design and where did I quote you? What I wanted to point out is that this car has elements of classic Japanese design, and it can come from various areas. It doesn't necessarily look European, but that's what the untrained eye thinks.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 5:05:09 PM
+3 Boost
Yeah, blah blah blah Turbospyder. Everyone's tired of your copying and pasting. You can find anything to back up your comments but you can never get rid of your hate.

Fact is, this design, whomever it came from, and whomever was the team lead is not trying to look like something else and is original, and is inspired from classic Japanese design.

We're just sick of you're Aryan brotherhood thing. It is so old school KKK.


downtoearthdowntoearth - 3/3/2009 5:22:13 PM
-4 Boost
Congratulations, answer. Excellent responses and summary of "Willis".


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 8:46:11 PM
-1 Boost
Turbo, if you read carefully, I did not name call...but I did call you out. Just becuase other people might be racist it doesn't make it right that you can be. We all know where you stand and who you hate and it makes this site sometimes very distasteful. If I were to make as many hateful, one sided, biased comments I would be very ashamed. Deep down, with all your hate, I find it hard that you would ever be a happy person. Funny, you label yourself a Christian, but I know I am more of one than you are.


abcdabcd - 3/4/2009 3:53:06 AM
+2 Boost
TurboSpyder:"http://dimequarterly.tierranet.com/Autoweek.html"

To be a good researcher you should look at more than one source, but you always use only this one above, even if you agree that it has mistakes, like when George Damon Levy says that 510 was designed by Pininfarina.
Below is better source becouse everything is explained by man who is researching Datsun history:

http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/article.cgi?section=profiles&article=datsun510rotary

"In reality, Pininfarina had designed the 410, but the 510 "styling was completely up to Japan," corrects Blackwell. "In the end it was an effort to do in house styling to get away from a perceived too-Italian look." "

TurboSpyder:"Japanese cars looked strange until they started to take design cues from European manufacturers."

If you're saying about 510, maybe they took some design cues from *Italians*. Look at VWs before Pininfarina designed VW Golf: VW type 3, VW type 4, they look odd to me.


abcdabcd - 3/4/2009 4:31:04 AM
+1 Boost
Here are also other cars from the era, and many looks really good:
http://www.jsae.or.jp/autotech/menu01-3e.html


sectorsector - 3/3/2009 11:53:57 AM
+4 Boost
Wow, who needs a Ferrari :)


StarStar - 3/3/2009 3:36:18 PM
-2 Boost
Car enthusiasts?


EL34EL34 - 3/3/2009 12:09:06 PM
-10 Boost
Somebody put that thing back beneath the rock it crawled out from!

:-O My God.....


222max222max - 3/3/2009 12:29:46 PM
+2 Boost
That's the reaction I've had to the latest abominations from BMW.


answeranswer - 3/3/2009 12:21:24 PM
0 Boost
Damn!

The Euro-only-fanboy bandwagon sure is picking up steam!

Seriously, what is wrong with this concept? Granted it doesn't have one of your favorite badges attached to it, but still.


BJS470BJS470 - 3/3/2009 12:31:11 PM
+2 Boost
This thing looks beautiful....if it had a BMW badge on it, I can guarantee star, el, and cappy would rave on how cool it is. They just don't want to admit they are fan boys


CaraficionadoCaraficionado - 3/3/2009 12:59:00 PM
+5 Boost
flawless!


mmeeccmmeecc - 3/3/2009 1:09:47 PM
+3 Boost
Very very nice!! The only thing is that there have been many incredible concepts built but unfortunately few and far between are the ones that actually materialize into anything remotely close to the concept....too bad.
Not a big Infinity fan but I hope this one will change that.....


EL34EL34 - 3/3/2009 1:15:55 PM
-9 Boost
Hey Datsun fanboys, how are sales going for the new goofy Maxima and the Pokemon FX?

:-D


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 3/3/2009 5:23:48 PM
-1 Boost
see you always take it to far first off the X6 starts at almost 60 grand, the FX is infinitis midsize crossover and therefore is there mainstream suv much like the RX, X5, MDX, ML etc, the X5 sold almost 1700 units and while it is alot cheaper(for whatever reason why the X6 costs so much more) than the X6 it still is more than the FX and not to mention the X5 is the car that competes with the FX not the 4 seater coupe suv thing the X6 just like the e class versus the CLS.


BJS470BJS470 - 3/3/2009 9:55:57 PM
+3 Boost
The econobox X6 is the ugliest hunchback looking SUV or SAV or POS or whatever they call it, since the Pontiac Aztek


PerformanceGuyPerformanceGuy - 3/3/2009 1:16:10 PM
+6 Boost
Wow, that looks pretty HOT!! Good job Infiniti. Please build this car!!


marinaside1199marinaside1199 - 3/3/2009 1:55:53 PM
+8 Boost
When I first look at it, it made me think of those 3 curvy lines that represents a car in the Infiniti commercials. And I think that is exactly what this car represents. This car has Infiniti written all over it, the curves, lights, wheels, etc. I am not a fan of Infiniti, but I like this thing. Great job!


Hachee2001Hachee2001 - 3/3/2009 2:19:47 PM
+3 Boost
I like it - a lot. The proportions are very classic, but the whole look is very fresh, and it looks like an Infiniti. Perhaps a bit too much RX8 in the front fender treatment, but otherwise, I'm digging it.


pchera01pchera01 - 3/3/2009 2:43:47 PM
+2 Boost
i do agree with RX-8 tratment on it


DenaliDenali - 3/3/2009 2:25:18 PM
0 Boost
looks like the SL/CL AMG and M6 have problems


EL34EL34 - 3/3/2009 2:34:50 PM
-13 Boost
Ferrari called and they want the family owned design cues back, but they said Nissan can keep all the other Pokemon inspired crap.

Looks like dog vomit =/


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 2:39:43 PM
+6 Boost
Don't be bitter my little tart. All you have to do it pretend it has a German badge on it and you'll love it.


222max222max - 3/3/2009 4:13:14 PM
+4 Boost
And? What does that have to do with anything? If you think there's any corporation on earth worth its salt who only hires people of a certain nationality then you're a (bit off). This particular guy works for Infiniti and where he comes from is irrelevant.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 5:09:26 PM
+4 Boost
"I'm gonna bet that he's of European descent."

Yeah, I would bet that too brainiac. Nonetheless, it is a design that is not trying to look like anything else, is original, and borrows from classic Japanese themes. Does the fact that he's of European descent make all white people great like we know you think it does? We get it, you love white people, and hate anyone else of color and you think they're below you. If I tell you that white people are amazing will you go away? I no longer want to be embarrassed for you.


_43LE_43LE - 3/4/2009 9:55:45 AM
-2 Boost
We all know your motive for posting and we all know who you love and hate. I'm not trying to control what you write, that's impossible, you have your own mind. What I am doing is only pointing out what's wrong with it.


_43LE_43LE - 3/4/2009 11:53:41 AM
-1 Boost
Turbo, your not pissing me off, I'm really just laughing at you now! LOL! like your photo, if that's your outlook on the world, then you're really sad...Nations should try to cooperate, not be split apart.


_43LE_43LE - 3/4/2009 12:01:10 PM
-2 Boost
I forgot to mention why I'm laughing at you now, because you are showing your typical hateful traits once again with your poor inductive reasoning.

-selectively finding points to boost your argument when there are many other points to consider
-willfully trying to piss people off
-Showing hate towards a certain group of people
-Not understanding the whole picture

You know, you have the choice to live your life in fear. I choose not to. I think if you spent more time trying to understand people not like you, then you would be much happier.


abcdabcd - 3/4/2009 3:05:38 PM
-1 Boost
TurboSpyder:"you do know where the British Angles and Saxons came from, right?"

I didn't, but I read something in wikipedia.

TurboSpyder:"industrial revolution began in Britain and that the Germans learned something from them just like the British ***later*** started using Otto-cycle and diesel engines that the Germans invented."

LATER, is a key word here. If you're saying about automotive industry than Japanese manufacturers later also introduced some things. Here you can find examples:http://www.jsae.or.jp/autotech/index_e.html

About Diesel engine: Here is something that Briton invented something similar before Rudolf Diesel, but I actually didn't check whether he really created similar engine to Diesel, but even so I don't want to diminish R. Diesel work, there's probably reason why we're saying today Diesel engine and not Akroyd-Stuart engine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Akroyd_Stuart#Patent_dispute_with_Rudolf_Diesel

Supplementing our previous discussion:
Look here, at the best German scientist, I'm not sure whether these are all of them but they have one thing in common, all did their work after Industrial Revolution technology(and not only technology) was imported from Britain(fourth quarter of 19th century):
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERscientists.htm
Although I must say that these were VERY important contributions to science, even if they were able to did this contributions thanks to earlier milestones done mostly in Britain.

Look also here, it is based on: E.D. Howard, The Cause and Extent of the Recent Industrial Progress of Germany, (1907) - E.D. Howard was a professor of Sociology and Economics:
http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob49.html

Also, before you say about Germans mathematics before the Industrial Revolution(like in our previous discussion), that's very good site about history of mathematics:

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Chronology/index.html

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/HistTopics/Arabic_mathematics.html#31
And, if you have spare 3 hours I propose you to watch very interesting and quite informative video on youtube: SCIENCE & ISLAM.


abcdabcd - 3/4/2009 5:28:34 PM
-1 Boost
TurboSpyder:"I assume you were trying to point out that some of these were Jewish? I already knew it."

I also knew it but I weren't trying to point out that some were Jewish, I don't know how you deduced this from my earlier statement when I didn't post anything about Jews, Jewish,...
I was pointing out that there wasn't almost any development in Germany until "import of Industrial Revolution".
Have you read my link?
http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob49.html
"As a German academic observed: "German industry produces only cheap and nasty articles. She has made no progress either in taste or invention"(infra. P.34). Hence, for turn-of-the-century design-conscious buyers, the mark "Made in Germany" often connoted "cheap and nasty" products. Its advances in the field of design and the promotion of quality as weapons in the war for markets did not come until after 1910 as the influence of the newly established Deutscher Werkbund directed the minds of industrialists and others to elegant taste and superior craftsmanship."

"only solve quadratic equations and not cubic or quartic equations."

Well, this guy was able to solve equations of degree 14:
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Zhu_Shijie.html

"Alexandria in Egypt was a great *Greek* city of learning."

Greeks didn't almost nothing in the field of algebra according to guy from islam&science video.

"It really put into perspective for me how limited their math was."

Italians(and later Europeans) have based on their algebry.


abcdabcd - 3/4/2009 5:41:09 PM
-1 Boost
"that there wasn't almost any development in Germany until "import of Industrial Revolution"."

Comparing to Britain for example.


abcdabcd - 3/5/2009 5:18:52 PM
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TurboSpyder, yes great information on that page. You always diminish Japanese later development becouse of earlier learning(your famous links about Meji restoration and O-yatoi_gaikokujin) from Britain, France, Italy and even Germany but as you see on the page there was similar pattern in Germany. There's a leader(Britain) and a follower(Germany). There wasn't almost any development in Germany until "import of Industrial revolution" just like in Japan. That's why in your quote is 1870s.

I don't know why so hard attached to cubic and quartic equations but Muslims and others were able to use numerical methods to solve them. I don't know until when Muslims have been able to study Europeans developments in science but I think it's not that long and their current situation do not determine their past achievements, like Greeks situation do not determine their past achievements or Germany situation until 19th century does not determine their earlier situation.

"Yes. They far eclipsed anything that any other culture had done previously."

So, who's now more advanced in electronic industry, Japan or Germany? Who's has had more advanced rocket technology for 50 years, Russia or Germany?

You really don't see this, it's the same pattern. You're bashing Japanese becouse they learned from West and later have done something better while you always adore Germans when they did the same(in different scale). Ohh, I know, you don't want to see this.

"http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_701509067/Scientific_Revolution.html"

I'm not sure but I think it's not actual update of definition of scientific revolution becouse there isn't any rememerance about "Book of Optics" in sections: "Development of experimental method" and "Mathematization of Nature".


abcdabcd - 3/7/2009 2:04:26 PM
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TurboSpyder, I already gave a quote from book in our previous discussion that until second half of 19th century there wasn't intensive ties between industry and science and gave example with steam engine. Of course there was period of time in science called scientific revolution that was POSSIBLE thanks to import of science, math and technology from Arabs, yesterday I watched a program when they said that Europeans even didn't know about Aristotele(and probably other Greeks), but learned about him from Arabs when Spanish Conquered Toledo from Arabs. Arabs started to use mathematization of the nature and experimental method that are in your encyclopedia link but there isn't any mention about this facts in this encyclopedia, and these Arabic developments of experimental method and mathematization of the nature certainly influenced Europeans - http://www.oxfordislamicstudies.com/article/opr/t125/e924 - Ibn al-Haytham wrote "Book of optics".
Germans did some improvements in math, like + and - symbols, and some more sophisticated by Leibniz, if you look at chronology(http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Chronology/index.html) you will find that most important mathematicians between 15-17th century were Britons, Frenchs, Swiss, Italians, very few Germans, only one was very influential - Leibniz. Not to mention about science between 15-17th century. Newton was most important contributor to science, it based on previous Europeans(like Polish Copernik-who started "scientific revolution", German Keppler, Itaian Galileo) who based on previous Arabic scientists and mathematicians.
It's hard to say who is a leader in electronic, I used stereotypical view that Japanese are more advanced than Germans, I don't know who's more advanced in fact but I really don't want to go into details like reviews of some tv sets and quoting products of some firm, I hardly see with this type of argumentation there could ever be end of this discussion. And Germany undisputed king in automotive electronics becouse of electronic fuel injection LOL, no comment. I showed you in past Japanese auto manufacturers first, most of them where in automotive electronics.


abcdabcd - 3/7/2009 6:37:43 PM
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LOL, I'm not a clown, I'm not working in circus, I even don't like to go to circus. I'm interested in truth, but I see it, I didn't do enough copy paste from various websites to fit to your standard. Well, if I did you some link about week or two ago from book reffering ties between science and industry until second half of 19th century(http://www.autospies.com/news/Think-The-New-7-Looks-A-Lot-Like-The-Old-One-These-Photos-Will-Really-Open-Your-Eyes-41287/ - abcd Posted on 2/23/2009 4:59:48 PM) I was thinking that you acctepted that as a fact, if not I have found another book that is containing the same information. To say something about Bosch electronic fuel injection, maybe I will quote wikipedia, you also used to do so when I said that first succesful production common-rail was done by Denso:
"The first commercial electronic fuel injection (EFI) system was Electrojector, developed by the Bendix Corporation and was to be offered by American Motors (AMC) in 1957.[3] A special muscle car model, the Rambler Rebel, showcased AMC's new 327 cu in (5.4 L) engine. The Electrojector was an option and rated at 288 bhp (214.8 kW). The Rebel Owners Manual described the design and operation of the new system.[4] Initial press information about the Bendix system in December 1956 was followed in March 1957 by a price bulletin that pegged the option at US$395, but due to supplier difficulties, fuel-injected Rebels would only be available after June 15.[5] This was to have been the first production EFI engine, but Electrojector's teething problems meant only pre-production cars were so equipped and none were made available to the public.[6] The EFI system in the Rambler was a far more-advanced setup than the mechanical types then appearing on the market and the engines ran fine in warm weather, but suffered hard starting in cooler temperatures.[5]"
This is only part, more on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_injection

I heard that Siemens invented piezo injection.

"abcd, care to explain how Germany with forty million fewer people than Japan exports twice as much as Japan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_exports

I look forward to your ridiculous answer."

I don't know how, I didn't any research, but there are many surprizes on that list to me, e.g. Poland ties Japan(almost) when ranked by population, Hongkong with their 7 milion population has enormous export per one citizen.


abcdabcd - 3/7/2009 6:39:42 PM
0 Boost
Sorry, I wasn't able to do more ridiculous answer.


abcdabcd - 3/8/2009 9:38:08 AM
+1 Boost
TurboSpyder, Yes Muslims got their knowledge from their neighbours, with exception of what they invented themselves. You're as usual hard at trying to prove that Arabs did nothing, that they only rewrote Greek texts and peoples like Al-Khowarazmi, Ibn al-Haytham and others were completely unimportant for development of science, PATHETIC.

TurboSpyder:"I don't believe for a second that it's just a coincidence that the scientific revolution in Europe occurred between 1500-1700 (according to Encarta) and only after that the industrial revolution occurred in the following century."

Of course it isn't coincident, I also think so, but it isn't like you trying to show that all the science and math was created in 1500-1700 in Westrn Europe and than it was intensively applied to industry and this easy task was coincidently done by Englishmen but with all that science and math developed it could be easly done any other nation(e.g.Germans).

I also don't believe that this is coincidence that before translation of Arab texts wasn't almost any development in science and math in medival Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_j70bwkSqQ

"I also pointed out to you in that thread that Thomas Newcomen and James Watt, who were instrumental in the development of the industrial revolution, were engineers - and engineers use math and science."

Today you would use at least Raoult's law, thermodynamics laws, activity and fugacity coefficients, ideal and real gas equations, but this rules were discovered later, I don't what Newcomen used, MAYBE Boyle's law, Torricelli barometer and law and earlier experiments of Samuel Morland and others, for construction of engine Newton's dynamics laws, Hook's laws, Young module, ultimate strength of materials. It wasn't only steam engine that drove Industrial revolution, in many sources it is said that it was social change and many inventions, first for textile industry, this transformed a agricultural country to a industrial country.

Last thing from my site becouse we will never come to end of the discussion when even historians of science who have very big knowledge about the matter have different views on some things(e.g. aren't sure why industrial revolution occured in Britain):
http://books.google.com/books?id=NiVWqSTea8oC
Quote from the book "A History of the European Economy, 1000-2000", page 113:
"Even though inventors came from the whole spectrum of British society, and some (like the Reverend Edmund Cartwright) belonged to the ruling elite, a large majority were from a middle-class background. They were brilliant tinkerers with a willingness to experiment. Their approach was both empirical-intuitive and scientific, as some scientific culture had percolated downward in society (through books, magazines, lectures, and learned societies), even though relations between "science" and industry only became intense in the late nineteenth century(except in the case of the chemical industry)."
page 112:
"The per


abcdabcd - 3/8/2009 9:40:28 AM
+1 Boost
page 112:
"The percentage of English families with incomes of nonagricultural origin rose from 38 percent of the total (an abormally high figure at that time) in 1688 to 46 percent in 1759"
page 115:
"Thus, the "heart of the matter," the crucial inventions of the spinning and carding machines[...]remains rather enigmatic."

You're very Eurocentric TurboSpyder, look what "Britain centric" have to say:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article3734663.ece


pchera01pchera01 - 3/3/2009 2:46:05 PM
+8 Boost
now I think Infiniti should build Q50, they can build some good cars, no question about it...
BMW should worry about Infiniti


M53RM53R - 3/3/2009 2:48:28 PM
+6 Boost
It looks amazing! Aggressive, sleek, and beautiful! What market is this car in though?


DROOPYSAKKDROOPYSAKK - 3/3/2009 3:12:22 PM
-2 Boost
i dont know, i still think it looks alot like a twig w/o the berries, or the meat w/o the two veg...not my style.


Hachee2001Hachee2001 - 3/3/2009 3:20:06 PM
-2 Boost
I think everyone will buy this car and its great and bmw will go broke so will mercedes and forget lexus they are jsut stupid toyotas and they all have to worry.

2/3 of you sound like this.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 3/3/2009 3:29:31 PM
+4 Boost
So I was right it was a Coupe, I have to admit im very impressed its like nothing else from infiniti, its elegant, classy, unique, yet very bold. I wonder if this just a desighn study, or will an Infiniti GT really see production, Gorgeous car inside and out


StarStar - 3/3/2009 3:39:20 PM
-7 Boost
What's the big deal? It looks like a Mazda RX8.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 5:11:28 PM
+1 Boost
Don't be bitter Star, just imagine that it's a German car and we know you'll love it.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 5:28:55 PM
-2 Boost
It takes too much effort to imagine that this turd could wear the badge reserved only for high class engineering...the German engineering.




_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 5:34:48 PM
0 Boost
Well, we know how hard it is for you to think...


dlindlin - 3/3/2009 3:59:55 PM
+2 Boost
Twin turbochargers, direct-injection fuel system - Now we are talking.

The only thing needed for INFINITI, and everyone else, is dual clutch as standard option. In the back please.


JUGNUJUGNU - 3/3/2009 4:05:28 PM
+2 Boost
Looks like a mixture of G37 and LF-A. Looks very nice.

JUGNU


BM3WBM3W - 3/3/2009 4:05:42 PM
0 Boost
looks like Infiniti saw the Lightning and the Fisker and said "hrmmm... yessssss"


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 3/3/2009 4:10:06 PM
+2 Boost
A very striking car, the dash is a bit of a nightmare though.


bimmerMeister999bimmerMeister999 - 3/3/2009 4:26:13 PM
+1 Boost
The front part looks like a mix of Scaglietti and Maserati gran turismo. Nevertheless, looks pretty cool for a Japanese car.


bimmerMeister999bimmerMeister999 - 3/3/2009 4:29:07 PM
+1 Boost
oops, I meant Fiorano, not Scaglietti..


AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 3/3/2009 5:23:09 PM
-3 Boost
Looks nice, but not the right vehicle for this time - unless you really want to piss-off your unemplyed neighbours.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 5:33:13 PM
+1 Boost
Is just an Infiniti. It takes more than a Japanese econobox to piss off your neighbors. A used C class Mercedes would piss them off more than anything Japan ever built. Everybody knows that German cars are what everybody dreams about. Japanese cars..naaa.... "value" choice.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 5:36:29 PM
-3 Boost
Yes, I have to admit, I have always aspired to owning a Mercedes Smart, even a Trabant sometimes.


pchera01pchera01 - 3/3/2009 5:50:43 PM
+3 Boost
the statement from Star is a true. I told the infiniti forum, freshalloy, having a c-callss is more prestgious than FX50. they banned me from that site...lol. I have owned 2009 GL450 and 2008 G35. I am talking it from my experieance...


StarStar - 3/3/2009 5:56:01 PM
0 Boost
I'm sure you did but sadly had to settle for a bicycle instead. Yeah, you told us the story.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 5:57:28 PM
+1 Boost
The above comment is for 43LE.


_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 6:13:53 PM
+3 Boost
Yes Star, sadly all I could afford was a bicycle. I feel so bad now, I'm going to go away and cry! At least the bicycle is cooler than the Smart.


pchera01pchera01 - 3/3/2009 5:53:11 PM
-3 Boost
i wouldn't say that about BMW at this time. after this recession, if BMW doesn't step up their game, people will have to look for Infiniti insted of BMW...


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 3/3/2009 5:54:11 PM
+1 Boost
What are you 11?


VISOVISO - 3/3/2009 6:31:22 PM
+1 Boost
You forgot bmwdrvr to add to your list - the ultimate fanboy.


NISSANINFINITINISSANINFINITI - 3/4/2009 5:02:19 PM
+1 Boost
C'MON...STOP IT!!!!!


answeranswer - 3/3/2009 6:18:03 PM
-3 Boost
Heck yeah!

Look it has wheels! The Z8 had wheels first!!!!!!!




LexSucksLexSucks - 3/3/2009 5:57:53 PM
-3 Boost
That car looks like something out of "Clockwork Orange"


shiftlessshiftless - 3/3/2009 6:04:26 PM
+1 Boost
The first "Jetson" automobile to come to light. Safe..Good on gas....fast...and futuristic.


david999david999 - 3/3/2009 6:06:18 PM
+1 Boost

Very nice looking. very close to an Aston.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 7:50:42 PM
+1 Boost
"I really don't know why I bother looking at other threads. Lexus is my life."

Go live it somewhere else then, and I mean as far as you can go... preferably somewhere where there is no Internet connection.


222max222max - 3/3/2009 7:50:07 PM
+7 Boost
SC430? Ok, You just completely lost me.


StarStar - 3/3/2009 7:52:21 PM
+4 Boost
Oh, he lost everybody...long time ago.


222max222max - 3/3/2009 11:40:11 PM
+5 Boost
Yes, the SC430 is attractive to bullfrogs.


EL34EL34 - 3/3/2009 8:31:10 PM
-3 Boost
Nissan might make a nice garbage truck, but they need to get the hell out of the automobile business.

How dare Nissan put out such trash =/




_43LE_43LE - 3/3/2009 8:49:59 PM
+1 Boost
They do it just to spite you, why else?


DaHarderDaHarder - 3/3/2009 9:03:03 PM
+5 Boost
Probably one of the single most beautifully wrought concept vehicles of the last 20 years... As distinctively Infiniti as it is gloriously stunning.


shabarushabaru - 3/3/2009 9:40:33 PM
+5 Boost
Is it just me?... Or am I finding this to be one of the most attractive Infiniti Concepts.... due to how it's styling is kind of like a TVR... I love those TVR styles


EducatedOpinion365EducatedOpinion365 - 3/3/2009 9:49:40 PM
-4 Boost
Id give it a B
overall shape is good but the nose needs a make over
love the instrument cluster! but the materials look sort-of cheap to me idk why


AudiphileAudiphile - 3/3/2009 9:54:01 PM
+3 Boost
Lovely vehicle. Promises good performance and good fuel economy. Shows great potential.


1evlaudi1evlaudi - 3/3/2009 11:15:57 PM
-1 Boost
Karma fisker anyone?


lexworldlexworld - 3/4/2009 1:02:47 AM
-3 Boost
Don't even think about comparing this alien Jaguar to the Lexus LF-A. It's beautiful from the side views but, other than that the front,rear and top is awful(all foolish). My advice...Infiniti you should not consider making this thing, trust me it has some weird looks going on all over this thing. The rear looks like some kind of reverse viper head...man this thing is really weird guys. Please Infiniti don't follow Acura because Acura is lost and needs a savior(design help & parrot/bird beak killer). The soon to be LF-A will soon be King of exotics..."The day of reckoning is coming"!!!!!!!!!


pchera01pchera01 - 3/4/2009 1:24:14 AM
+2 Boost
well, when GTR came out, lexus went back to germany to tune the car little more, now they are going back to Japan, to start all over again...


pchera01pchera01 - 3/4/2009 1:26:20 AM
+4 Boost
LF-A king of exotics? I think Ferrari still making cars...


222max222max - 3/4/2009 10:21:41 AM
+6 Boost
The LF-A is not real. It is an X-File, Sasquatch, a UFO, little green men, Nessy. There have been many sightings but no real proof that it exists.


valhallakeyvalhallakey - 3/4/2009 2:54:50 AM
+2 Boost
Wow that is beautiful... very much a 60s design freedom merged with modern revisionism. Love it! BTW EL34 and Teknik... how old are they? Their little thing going on is very old and wastes space! Own a BMW M5, VW Golf GTI, Dodge Durango and BMW 325ix. Have owned a BMW M3, Datsun 240Z, Datsun 280Z, Nissan 240SX, BMW 1802, BMW 3.0 CSL, Honda Accord and a Chevy 70 Z/28... oh and a 1977 Impala, 73 Dodge Pickup and some others I would rather not mention... I just like cars, don't really care so much where they come from so much as long as they seem well made, and fun I can afford it an they suite the purpose I am buying it for. I would like to see Infinity either build this or incorporate a lot of the design into future models. I really like the 4th picture above. Like the C pillar treatment and the lines are interesting without being gaudy or distracting to the overall beauty of the car. One of the best new designs for a sports car since the Alfa 8C. Agree on the X6... big miss, on the other hand the new 3 series and the one series for that matter (depending on color a bit) are very nicely done for a sports sedan as are the Nissans new G37 family. Ha my rambling waste of space. What are the top show cars of the last 2 years?


xj13xj13 - 3/4/2009 6:02:00 AM
-3 Boost
save your money and buy a RX8.


bonestockbonestock - 3/4/2009 1:03:56 PM
+2 Boost
Hurry up and produce it infiniti or hyundai is going to steal you're thunda!!


Eman171Eman171 - 3/5/2009 10:55:46 AM
+2 Boost
A gorgeous looking car!


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