Can They Do It? Lexus Looks To Take Away BMW's Crown With The IS-F Evolution

"Initial estimates hovered around the US$100,000 mark, but final estimates for the car will be climbing past the Spec V’s US$170,000 territory and chances of getting change from a cool US$200,000 are slim. "

You have got to be kidding me that an IS-F is going to be around $200,000. I think this is just an internet rumor.

And which crown is this headline referring to? The M3's crown? The M5's crown? For either, it is pretty sad that it takes a $200k IS-F to dethrone the $55k M3 sedan (base) and $86k M5. It is even worse that from a pure performance numbers standpoint, the CTS-V did this already at a starting price of $60k.

Badgewhore, I'm guessing you have never heard of "rhetorical questions."

Sometimes I think this site is used as a training ground for Junior College P.R. 101 students.

lol 200k car embarrassing the m3? should the m3 really be embarrassed if it takes lexus 3x the cost to make a car to rival it?

Who would buy that ugly ToyLex?

That's right, some goofball over paid basketball player.

Lexus is a mediocre brand. It will never succeed in taking anything away from a brand like BMW.

Remember Star, at you not with you...

_43LE, your "at you not with you" comments are getting as annoying as some of Star's comments.

Well it's working then.

Then you are no better than Star. You are both trolls who flood the boards with useless posts.

FitzLA,

BMW's reliability is better than Honda's. Stop trolling!

FitzLA,

you surely sound like a desperate troll to me. I do not own a BMW at this time(trade it my 335i for a C63 AMG) but I owned several of them before and they were ABSOLUTELY PROBLEM FREE. You are not fooling anybody here with your ridiculous little stories. Take it on Vtech.com, I'm sure you will find the right audience there.

Attack you? LOL. My time is too precious to lose it fighting with a little troll like you. Get over yourself.

Don't call yourself an idiot for such little thing. Take it easy, troll.

With that price I can have the best of the world : M3 coupe for the track and C63 Sedan for fun and drifting and cruise. I won´t consider the ISF evo at all, not for that money. In tha case I prefer tu buy a CLK Black Series or and R8. Please this ridiculos money for ISF...only a blind person could spend that money for a car like that.

Where in the article does it say that this IS-F evolution is trying to take the M3's crown? The article does not even mention BMW anywhere??

...or a S-AMG...

Everyone must remember _43LE has her head screwed on backwards so go easy on her.

At least I have a head, which is more than I can say of you.

Yeah, this LE43 chick is FAIL.

"Oh No Doubt"! I'm sure by now Lexus is bent on going after BMW first and then they'll go after Merc and Caddy, the boys with the big HP numbers which isn't a real challenge to them right now like BMW is. Lexus is a phenomenom, like it's parent company Toyota and they love challenges that take strategic patience. They like to strip their competitions passion away little by little with very little loss of cash. Oh and of course we'll see more of this now that heir Akio Toyoda is now President of Toyota Motor Corp. This guy is extremely competitive and is the driving force behind the LF-A and IS-F enforcement. So, get ready for some very serious high performance cars coming from the Lexus camp. It's not a matter of if but, when...and when it happens, remember you haters have been forewarned.

"It's not a matter of if but, when...and when it happens, remember you haters have been forewarned."

You and your Toyota fanboy friends were warning Autospies readers that the IS-F was going to crush the M3 BEFORE it even came out. Then it came out and it has consistently been bested by the M3 (which remains the benchmark). There is more to producing a performance car than endless hype.

Anyone who wants to charge well north of $100K for a vehicle needs to be ready to compete with the Big Boys (Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, etc) in terms of performance, quality, luxury, heritage, and snob appeal. I'd guess that the IS-F Evo falls short in more than one of these categories. It sounds more like it will be yet another "excellent car for the money" (about $60-70K) but not really put any pressure on the true performance/luxury market ($120K+).

hell NO, it looks like Hondas