Fact Or Fantasy? Nissan Claims GT-R Series II Will Lap Nürburgring In An Enzo Beating Time Of 7:24s

just take the lf-a for example....

Series II? I don't think so.

V-spec? YES.

V-Spec will further crush the German competition. Me likey!

with enough money, it could be possible. Nissan and Renault have more than enough skills to do it (renault in F1 for example).

The Nürburgring is 73 corners though so I think it's believable, it's a long track, if you pick up just 0.1 seconds per corner on average it's already a saving of 7.3 seconds, that's if we only consider corners, there are also long straights which even 5 extra horses can play a role.

Tradition of the fastest Nurburgring laps should be kept. But we will see.

Slowest of all R35'S?,take a look at the time for the spec v at Sendai Highlands. Get your facts straight before posting. What a crock of .....

http://www.leftlanenews.com/nissan-gt-r-specv.html

I think that's a reference to the run done by Best Motoring in which the Spec V was slower than the stock GT-R. A result that just didn't make sense so I would doubt that that proves to be the rule.

If anyone can do it, I think it would be the GT-R. Good luck Nissan, hope that you all do it!!

Nissan claims....LOL. Is there anybody there who still believes the claims Nissan makes? Fools...

Star's statements...LOL. Is there anybody there that holds any value in Star's belief's?

Star is just jealous that BMW can't compete. At least American's have the ZR1 as a claim to fame and Italy has Ferrari and Lamborghini.

Remember 43LE... at you, not with you.

Star, you promised that you were no longer responding to my comments? I guess that you're a hypocrite now. And, I KNOW that people are laughing with me, at you, more than at me with you. You just can't stand it can you?

DocMarten,

Have you ever heard of Bugatti Veyron, junior? SLR Mercedes? Yes, Italians do have plenty of supercars also but please don't put the...YEE-HAW(LOL)ZR1 next to real supercars. ZR1 belongs in the econobox category with the Nissan GT-R.

"Star, you promised that you were no longer responding to my comments?"

In exchange for your promise that you will not respond to my comments.

Do you ever see me initiating a conversation with you?... That's because you are unimportant. Look at you! You are the one riding my tail all the time. You are the one making a fool of yourself.

I don't care who's laughing of who...I'm not a desperate dolt like you are. If you have any dignity left, I advise you to make a name for yourself for something other than being a parasite to other posters. If you think my posts are laughable write better ones instead of hanging close to me so you can get some attention. Without "Star" you don't exist, 43LE. That's sad, if you ask me.

"In exchange for your promise that you will not respond to my comments."

Uhhh, you never said that and I never promised that.

"Do you ever see me initiating a conversation with you?... That's because you are unimportant"

Uhhhh, if I'm so unimportant why do you keep responding to me and why do other people keep agreeing with me?

"Without "Star" you don't exist, 43LE."

Uhhhh, I have been a member of this site far longer than you have. I'll still be here when you're either gone or eventually banned.

"If you think my posts are laughable write better ones instead of hanging close to me so you can get some attention."

I do write better posts, that's what's funny. I'm not hanging close to you to get attention, I'm just to pointing out how ridiculous and one-sided your comments are and how hateful they can be.

"I'm not a desperate dolt like you are"

No, you're just a dolt.

Remember Star, at you not with you.

The Bugatti Veyron will CRUSH AND DESTROY any BMW in production. The GT-R has been called the Mini Veyron by many publications.

BMW doesn't stand a chance.

Star was comparing the $80K GT-R to a $2MIL dollar Veyron. What do you expect? You are talking about a kid in his jammies, who still needs potty training, and who eats peanut butter and jelly for lunch.

Docmarten "Star was comparing the $80K GT-R to a $2MIL dollar Veyron."

No...fool, YOU were comparing POS cars like the ZR1 and the GT-R to supercars. Are you that senile that you cannot even remember what you posted in the same day? The GT-R and ZR1 are econoboxes and the last thing I would do is to compare these Japanese and American DODO cars with the European marvels.

Star thinks that the Veyron and GT-R are comparable. One is $80K and the other is $2MIL. What a silly little kid in his jammies. The Veyron will CRUSH and DESTROY any BMW. The GT-R will also CRUSH and DESTROY any BMW. The GT-R is a mini Veyron.

DODO? Is that what kindergarten kids say these days Star? How did you like your peanut butter and jelly sammich junior? Hahahaha!

What an angry little child.

Troll alert...DocMarten is TEKNIK(who was just banned).

wow doc marten, you don't seem to be the brightest. i never heared of a bmw that even tries to compete with the gt-r. just like nissan doesn't have anything that competes many production lines of bmw

The GT-R is basically a mini version of the Veyron. Both AWD, and very fast. The publications where correct. The GT-R and even the ZR-1 are the "Kings of the Ring". Even the R8 is good.

The GT-R is a boy racer car, Teknik. You can call an Audi R8 a mini Veyron if you please but restrain yourself from calling the car Nissan built to compete with the EVO and STI...a mini Veyron. It sounds ridiculous even coming from you...or maybe not. I'm giving you too much credit.

A lot of publications have called the GT-R a mini Veyron. Jeremy Clarkson and another publication said this.

Yes, thanks I know I am right. This is true. The GT-R is like a Mini-Veyron. Everyone already knows this. Both the Veyron and GT-R will CRUSH and DESTOY any BMW in production. The R8 is also a fantastic car that anyone would be proud to own. No BMW stands a chance against any of these 3 wonderful cars.

Perhaps Porsche should be their time keeper. Also do this companies measure their times starting from full stop or are they up to speed when the clock starts? Further have all of them actually used the correct start finish line when determining their times?

the laps are recorded with a flying start

i love FACTS

Nissan needs to just stop all the Bull$h!t and just do it! I'm so sick of hearsay! Give us the facts...not conjecture!

The GT-R is king of the ring. The rest are all wanna-be's.

The Nissan times are irrelevant as you can't use them to compare to Sport Auto times.

I will beleive it when i see it

The german fanboy's are scared.

Maybe they are tired of hearing Nissan lying?

The German fanboys are very scared. They are scared out of their minds. All hail the GT-R King! It is like the Mini Veryron!

first off nissan lied about first GT-R times around the nurburgring why dont they make a half hour tv special out of it between the enzo and the Series 2 at nurburgring so we can see the truth not some made up number they were thinking in their head to sell the car. they needed to do something about the tranny anyway because the one in the current model is trash i think nissan has a well thought out plan for this car but the only thing i can say to nissan is if your trying to build a premium exotic car with a premium price then you have to use premium exotic parts. dont have the public pay 70-80-even 90 thousand dollars for a car with a tranny that is shot after one race from an actual customer. to me thats a peice of crap the car was built for racing its pretty much a race car out of the box. get your shyt together nissan

what i have to say about this story is that its definitley a fantasy because they lied the first time around so what makes you think they are not going to lie again???????????????????????????????????

Well, Porsche couldn't reproduce their OWN ring time for the 911 on the day they tested the GT-R. Does that mean Porsche lied as well?

Econo box bmw's have nothing that can come close to competing though

All I hope is that Nissan makes detailed records, video logs and wnatever else they need of the runs so that there is no way the results can be disputed. Maybe even invite Porsche to witness the runs.

Agree'd. They need to detail everything about this test. And thus prove once and for all they are better than the Germans.

too hard to belive, reason, what will they do with Infiniti essance???

The Essence is far from a sure production thing. Right now it's a show car only. But even if it gets produced that should have no bearing on the GT-R because Nissan has always had the harder sports cars over Infiniti, just as the Z has always been more hard core than the G37. The Essence will probably be more of a GT version of the GT-R if they base it off the GT-R.

Can't wait to see the final numbers. I know Nissan will do a great job of making Godzilla even better!

a g-shock lasts longer than a tag heuer? for sure

i own a 60 year old rolex speedking, wearing it almost daily since 2 years and it looks ten times better than my g-shock after 2 years

It's time for Mr. Toshio Suzuki to head over to Porsche and do some one on one training with their drivers before these amateurs try it again with this new model GT-R.

Explain to me why the Nissan GTR the most advance car in the world weighs less than the Dodge Challenger by 100pounds that is about as basic as a car can get?

troll alert... DocMarten is the "old" Teknik

You are gay.

Wait 'till Porsche hears about this one!

even if, they couldn't care less. porsche never meant to be the fastest car on a daily used base. different story with their race cars, unlike nissan.

a porsche is best mixture possible of sportiness, reliabilty, understatement and a rich racing history.

So Nissan fixed the tranny, but they forgot to fix it's ugliness =(

if nissans talking about a fixed tranny, they mean that they removed the launch control

i don't understand this nuerburgring laptimething. drive 3 laps with a time of 7:30 in a row and all of those "supercars" need a tow truck, no matter if it's a nissan, porsche or vette.

who of you thinks he could archive a flat 8 in a zr1, gt2 or v-spec in perfect conditions? NO ONE, so why argue about absolutly retarded topics?

lool... fantasy man!!!!!.... no.. you never know until a fact has been proven.. Yes maybe they really can overtake the enzo with the series II... and I congradulate them... but what will ferrari offer in return?

How many transmissions will it take? LOL

It is just engineering.....they will....

Somebody grab a couple of tissues and toilet paper. Porsche just crapped their pants

here we go again, next thing you know is Ferrari will protest against the time claimed by Nissan. and maybe Ferrari will put Michael S. behind the wheel of the GT-R to achieve the time claimed by Nissan... haha...

"maybe Ferrari will put Michael S. behind the wheel of the GT-R to achieve the time claimed by Nissan... haha..."

Nobody can achieve the times claimed by Nissan because they are not REAL times. Nissan pulled one of the biggest scams in automotive hystory with the GT-R by providing cars that were not stock for testing around the world.
The REAL performance of an unmodified factory stock GT-R is absolutely pathetic. Not only that the transmissions are exploding when doing some spirited driving around town but the car is nowhere close to the perfomance claims Nissan made.
As top car engineers explained it is definetely not posible for an undeengineered pig like the GT-R to post better times than engineering marvels like Porsche.

Ultimately, the GT-R is just another boy racer car that people living in ghettos feel they have a connection with, not because they can afford it(they obviously can't) but because it gives them the impression that there is so much more in common they have with Nissan, than with a symbol of success like Porsche. The GT-R is the frustrated Japanese fan living in the ghetto lifelong dream. If he could only beat a Porsche...that's what he lives for.

Pinto = great car

Jeremy Clarkson and Chris Harris are right. The GT-R is like a mini Veyron. These two have driven the most expensive cars in the world, that no one here will ever get a chance to even touch. There opinion is more valid than anyone here. They are very smart chaps. Kudo's to them!

Actually Clarkson is considered a toolbag in car enthusiast circles. Everybody knows that show is dumb entertainment. Car people always look somewhere else for real reviews.

Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris, and Tiff Needel all think that the GT-R is like a mini Veyron. But, the GT-R is 1/20th the price of the Veyron. Amazing indeed. The GT-R is a real breakthrough product.

I agree with them, they are smart chaps, who have driven the most exclusive cars in the world. From the Veyron, to the CCX, to the Zonda F. These guys really know what they are talking about.

Nissan lied....AGAIN!

BMW is in massive trouble. The 335i losing out the the new S4, terrible news for them. No wonder BMW is in such financial ruins right now.

Sad...

Nissan...oops here goes another transmission. LMAO...

Just like I expected, the S4 spanks the 335i. The GT-R and Veyron would send the BMW spinning in circles.

Audi S4 - BMW 335

Acceleration:
0-80 km/h 3.6 Sec. 4.0 Sec.
0-100 km/h 5.0 Sec. 5.5 Sec.
0-120 km/h 6.8 Sec. 7.8 Sec.
0-130 km/h 7.8 Sec. 8.8 Sec.
0-160 km/h 11.5 Sec. 12.7 Sec.
0-180 km/h 14.6 Sec. 16.9 Sec.
0-200 km/h 18.6 Sec. 21.2 Sec.
Factory Rating 0-100 km/h 5.1 Sec. 5.6 Sec.
Top Speeds (limited) 250 km/h 250 km/h

In Gear Flexability
60-100 km/h (5th Gear) 6.2 Sec. 6.4 Sec.
80-120 km/h (5th Gear) 6.2 Sec. 6.5 Sec.
80-120 km/h (6th Gear) 7.8 Sec. 7.8 Sec.

Braking (100 to 0 km/h)
Cold 35.4 m 38.6 m
Warm 35.4 m 37.8 m

Producing the X6 was a bad decision. Canceling the CS was a bad decision. Cheap leases was a bad decision. Inflated residuals is what happened. These things add up, now BMW is in financial trouble. To bad.

Last year, net profits for BMW went down almost 90 percent but company heads claimed that the carmaker is in good health financially speaking.
As it turned out the 89.5 percent drop in BMW’s profits, which was equivalent to 2.4 Billion Euros (2.24 Billion Pounds), is attributed to exceptional costs connected to bad debts, personal costs and provisions to cover risks on used car outlets.

All great examples of how clunky, noisy, unrefined, unpolished, and mediocre BMW's are. They sound like they are going to fall apart at every shift. BMW owners might as well buy a Camaro or Mustang and save money if they want an unrefined childish joy ride.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMwjfsK4J4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXAS9WuoeSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCVThnE4KBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTFQzp8owgA

I don't give a flying f***. 997 FTW!

997 Turbo, yes excellent choice!

SOme data from Wikipedia:

Veryon 16/4:
Curb weight 4,486 lb
~1,001 PS (736 kW; 987 hp) and 1,250 N·m (920 ft·lbf) of torque (conservative)
~4.5 lb/bhp
100 km/h (62 mph) in approximately 2.46 seconds
Standing quarter-mile 10.0 seconds 144 mph

GT-R:
Curb weight 3,800 lbs
~7.9 lb/bhp
(360 kW; 480 bhp)and 580 N·m (430 lb·ft)of torque
97 km/h (60 mph)3.2 seconds (with launch control)
Standing quarter-mile time 11.5 seconds 120 mph

Numbers may vary but they are close. Both are very nice cars. The Veyron has more HP and torque but also a lot more weight to sling around which will affect its overall performance on a track with a lot of corners. If you're only going in a straight line the Veyron wins hands down.