G37 Beating Genesis Coupe Gets A Retest And Widens The Gap

Headline is misleading. It doesn't widen the gap. More like, closes the gap. The G37 still outperforms it even with the upgrades.

Actually it beat the G37 overall, and now with improved figures it widens the gap between the two.

If that's your spin on it. But the article does not support the headline you've written.

You have to read the first article where the G37 loses to the Genesis coupe and go from there.

In the first article the Genesis wins based on value.

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It's the undeniable value equation that tips this test in the favor of the 2010 Hyundai Genesis 3.8. You simply get more car for your dollar with the Genesis coupe. Sure, it's not as much car as the 2009 Infiniti G37, but at two-thirds the cost, it doesn't have to be.
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The Genesis comes close in performance but still lags the G37 in the original etst. This new article is about how Hyundai has tweaked the pefromance to be more equivalent to the G. How is that widening the gap in performace?

Misleading headline.

The Genesis Coupe is still slower and worse performing than the G37.

Sorry Agent00J.

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Excellent point. Agent00J should have more journalistic integrity than this. It is a misleading title and even then, it doesn't even make sense. A wider gap means worse performing. The Genesis was already worse performing than the G37.

DocMarten - Well if you first win overall as the Genesis did in the first test, and you improve your parameters while the competitor did not, then the gap of victory has been widened.

Badgewhore- I current do not have a BMW in the stable. But we are in the market for a new car this fall, so maybe there is hope.

Wrong! This article is a comparison between two econoboxes. The GT-R vs Porsche argument was based on the fact that a car like the GT-R made by a economy brand like Nissan should not be compared with a car made by a premium maker like Porsche. Apples and oranges.

LOL Star! Keep them coming! Remember, at you not with you...

The GT-R is like a mini-Veyron. That is what people like Jeremy Clarkson, Chris Harris and Tiff Needle say.

They have driven some of the most expensive cars in the world.

Their opinion matters the most, they are smart chaps.

1. Hyundai must have known about the issue. During extensive testing of the car (they clearly did it) it wouldn't have been possible not to detect it. They have simply left it "as is", accepting the flaw.

Only now, when a motoring magazine puts them on notice, Hyundai poses as an ambitious and concerned company that listens to testers/customers and carries cost of improvement. Only they were actually forced to do it. Without Edmunds raising the problem, Hyundai wouldn't likely do anything.


2. It's not the first time when Hyundai was caught doing so.

This is the first crash test of Hyundai Genesis sedan:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1026

The car gets only AVERAGE rating for the frontal crash, with dummy's head bottoming out the airbag and hitting the steering wheel, increasing risk of injuries. There are serious issues with knee protection as well. There were also problem with side airbags. Very poor result for 2009 huge luxury car.

So the Hyundai modified the car and Genesis was retested:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1094

Now, after modifying the airbag and adding some knee padding the car did fine, getting Top Safety Pick. My only complaints are the AVERAGE rating for driver torso protection and safety cage stability in the side impact test:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=1027

However, the question is: how could they not know about those safety issues? Two possibilities are there: either Hyundai didn't conduct internal crash tests according to well known IIHS standards (which would be very lame and disappointing) or they conducted them, only, again, accepted the unimpressive results and let it go.

Hyundai offers a G37 for a lot less, with Genesis. Considering how overpriced Nissan/Infiniti products are, that comes as no surprise.

By your pseudo logic, then, the 3 series is astronomically overpriced...Remember, at you not with you...

What is a premium car maker like BMW have to do with the comparison I made between the two econo brands Hyundai and Infiniti?

Because EVERYONE with a brain has compared the G37 to the 3 series. I could understand why you specifically would not though. Remember, at you not with you.

The comparisons between the G37 econobox and the outstanding piece of German engineering, the amazing 335i were downright silly. Hyundai Genesis coupe is the real competitor for a G37 and even the American reviewers seem to finally get it.

LOL! Star, keep it coming! Remember, at you not with you...

Unfortunately, the Genesis still loses to the G37 in performance.

The GT-R is like a mini Veyron. Intelligent people know this.

The G37 is better in every way than the hyundai!

Except price

@ Star

The BMW 335i is overpriced, and the G37 is about the best value you get for your money!

The 335i is a BMW. The G37 is a pile of s**t made by Nissan. No comparison.

LOL! Keep it coming Star! Remember, at you not with you...

Don't worry, I'm here to help. I will definitely keep it coming.

LOL! Good, in these tough times we all need a good laugh. Remember, at you not with you...

The 335i just got spanked by the Audi S4.

Audi rules!

Audi S4 - BMW 335

Acceleration:
0-80 km/h 3.6 Sec. 4.0 Sec.
0-100 km/h 5.0 Sec. 5.5 Sec.
0-120 km/h 6.8 Sec. 7.8 Sec.
0-130 km/h 7.8 Sec. 8.8 Sec.
0-160 km/h 11.5 Sec. 12.7 Sec.
0-180 km/h 14.6 Sec. 16.9 Sec.
0-200 km/h 18.6 Sec. 21.2 Sec.
Factory Rating 0-100 km/h 5.1 Sec. 5.6 Sec.
Top Speeds (limited) 250 km/h 250 km/h

In Gear Flexability
60-100 km/h (5th Gear) 6.2 Sec. 6.4 Sec.
80-120 km/h (5th Gear) 6.2 Sec. 6.5 Sec.
80-120 km/h (6th Gear) 7.8 Sec. 7.8 Sec.

Braking (100 to 0 km/h)
Cold 35.4 m 38.6 m
Warm 35.4 m 37.8 m

Impressive little car performance-wise. Too bad it looks like a cartoon character.

Why are these two cars still even being compared. Neither the G37 or 3 series goes against the Genesis. The Genesis goes against the Eclipse, Mustang, and other cars like that.

Thank you. I don't know where this all started. Probably from the fact that the Genesis is so visually similar to the G coupe. Motor Trend's comparison of the Genenis to the Mustang and 370Z makes much more sense.

The 335i got demolished by the Audi S4. BMW is in big trouble!

Audi S4 - BMW 335

Acceleration:
0-80 km/h 3.6 Sec. 4.0 Sec.
0-100 km/h 5.0 Sec. 5.5 Sec.
0-120 km/h 6.8 Sec. 7.8 Sec.

I get better then 5.5 with my blizzak WS50's, a 225/18 setup in trunk(car does not have a spare), and a bag of sand. Whoever got those number's was asleep at the wheel.

As mentioned in other forums; In all fairness, the Infiniti/Nissan group should get a chance to retune their car (as did Hyundai) and have a third test to fairly settle the score. Why doesn't anybody (but the German fanbois) else see this?

See what? Retune for what? Who cares which one is faster and which one is slower. These are econoboxes that offer the typical "chinese" built quality and zero feedback to the driver. Do I care if they go in 5.4 or 5.6 seconds from 0 to 60? Who drives garbage like Infiniti G37 or sporty Hyundais other than the high school dropouts working at McDonald in the night shift. These are not real enthusiasts cars, these are cars for the plebs who don't have any idea what a real car. These are for people who look at specs when comparing two cars and decide that the one that has more horsepower is better value. The problem is,

horsepower is not value. High level of engineering which results in perfect balance is real value. Unfortunately for the Japanese fanbois, these two cars have zero value when it comes to engineering and they are as balanced as a one legged midget. Two Asian abominations for the American public. Enjoy!

OMG Star, you are so funny! We're all getting a kick out of reading your comments because they are so over-the-top ridiculous. Keep them coming! Remember, at you not with you...

We need more comparisons between the two rivals, the G37 and the Genesis coupe, though it appears that Hyundai is practically selling a carbon copy of the G37 for a lot less which makes them the clear winner already.

Very disappointing Agent00J. You seemed like a stand-up guy posting non-biased articles about the Acura MDX and Acura TL. You even stood up to everyone and bought an MDX. Now you post an article with a completely misleading title. That is very unfortunate.

This is Agent009, not Agent 00J. Learn how to read.

The G37 is nice but remember its a Nissan Skyline rebadged. The Genesis coupe simply makes it seem overpriced as an Infiniti. You lose the NAV option and a slightly better interior and not much else.

Whats nuts is a G37 can hit 45k and the Genesis at 30k looks like a complete and utter bargain. Even a G37 at 40k is overpriced.

Hyundai is really doing their thing!