Socialist Swedish Government Doesn't Buy Saab Story- Should The USA Have Done The Same With GM?

Well this is one stupid comparison.
Saab is probably alot less system-relevant, don't you think?

Is "alot" a word now? What does "system-relevant" mean? What system? And, relevant to what?

Y E S !!!!!

Yes, but we are not socialist, we think.

LOL gotto love how narrowminded americans think everyone who cares about giving people health care and education, and cares about the middle class is a 'socialist'. Someone's been watching too much Glenn Beck. rofl.

Socialist democrats are not the same as socialists. Scandinavian countries like Sweden and Denmark have the highest support for globalized free market economy in the world. Something like 90% of population support it. In USA its way less than that.

America is not free market. This conservative deregulation has given these companies a chance to grow so large they are monopolies and are too large to fail. Places like Denmark have the real free market economy, they also have the highest quality of life and the happiest population.

Well DinamoR they will love to have you and if you are there, great. Conservatives didn't deregulate without Democrats. During the second term of Clinton, deregulation began, thus the beginning of the fall of Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. Not sure, look at Time Magazine under the "10 Individuals that caused this Economic Crisis." So, a lot of blame can go around if you so wish to play that childish game. So government control is the best solution. When has this government ever been able to do anything but screw up? Any time our country has beens successful is when the government has been kept at a distance. Look what has happened just in the last 3 months, not looking at who was getting what in the way of monies, rush in giving out loans without over-site or public hearings, scaring people to think if this $2 trillion give a way didn't happen, we will fall into the dark ages. "Narrow-minded" ,and all the other silly names that you can call anyone that doesn't agree with you doesn't change your intolerant way of thinking.

You should ask should we have given AIG, Citicorp and Bank of American Billions of dollars for short sighted, greed?

agree 100% with you, inspiron7.

Socialism/Communism is cool. I can't wait to kick back and ride the backs of the hard-workers/fools. Innovation is over rated too. Once you have tried the new Camry you will see we are at the pinnacle of human achievement and that we just need to slice up the current wealth and stop making more of it.

haha you people are a bunch of f***** idiots

republicans have been saying we need to deregulate everything for as long as I can remember myself. and who was it who deregulated during the clinton years? Phil Gramm and the repub congress.

As far as AIG etc goes, I agree 100%. But the reason we had to bail them out is because phil gramm and george bush killed all regulation that for 50 years since the great depression regulated firms like AIG to make sure they don't get too large to fail. well, they got too large to fail and now they are holding us hostage.

And I don't know a single Democrat who wants to sit back and live of off hard working people. That is the oposite of what democrats want. Because that is what we've had the past 10 years: greedy pricks like Phil Gramm living of off hard working middle class people.

You had me at "a bunch of f***** idiots".

Shows how DinamoR has bought into the Democrat .vs Republican lie. Dude this is exactly what has been put out for years. Its idealogy, not parties. Why then does John Mc Cain and Hilary Clinton do so well together? Why has the conservative Democrats just begin to rise up against Obama's spending spree? Most never realize that conservative Democrats exist like liberal Republicans, and they are just as horribly ignorant as some conservatives, far less tolerant. Its idealogy and if you won't see it then live the lie. Ignorance is bliss.

Without Wall Street, there isn't an country. We are Wall Street dude, business. Small business growing to large, and all of the employees in between. Your company, mine. And of course like the child that thinks he is in charge, "give me the money and shut up," you can give, but don't have any say that is us right now. You see, any time you need to get the focus off of something, you demonize it create a crisis and maximize off of that ( Ron Emanuel own words). Now all of a sudden, Wall Street is the Elephant in the china room, when did that occur? Oh, just 2 months ago. There is corruption from the government, to Wall Street.

We need police, fireman, etc; we need taxation. Taxation without representation is the issue right now. What we don't need is the government running everything and Nancy Pallosi flying her family everywhere at our expense. The same old bull just different management.

Pallosi?....LOL

minhvunguyen, first no one "attack" DinamonR. He made broad statements as if non, Democrat Americans are, as usual narrow minded. Are Muslims narrow minded believing that if you are not born of their belief, you can't become one and the "extreme" believe you are the enemy? Are Gays narrow minded to think if someone makes advances to them they feel uncomfortable, but the opposite occurs, you are intolerant?

No you aren't unpatriotic, as a matter of fact, many died so that you can "choose" to have that very same freedom to have your opinion. Opinions in the market place of ideas are the very cornerstone on our country. Other counties like the French believe we are not as cultured as they. Are they intolerant? (when you visit, it really feels that way). We as a country give more to charities, send more helps, volunteer our time in various ways and give more to the U.N. and Aids than any highly developed country by far. This is an expression of us, the U.S. as a whole.

Yes, we are arrogant, driven, and pushy but at the same odd paradigm, compassionate. I to have traveled, and yes seen some stuff that would put hair on my girls chest, and even in my own country sometimes feel helpless to do for all that need, but you need to make the difference where you can. Didn't mean to get off point, but not all are as narrow minded as some tend to assume. Not agreeing isn't narrow minded, for some it is the stand they decided to take and that is it.

i also dont see how obama's plan to get us out of debt into a time of prosperity involves bringing us even MORE into debt. obama has spent more money in his few months of office than all the former presidents combined(!), adjusted for inflation. i really hope that the dollar isnt trashed anymore.

you and many others are finally waking up. You can spend your way out of debt. The Japanese tried for ten years with various "stimulus" packages, but remained stagnant. Try it with your own household and see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1VXZKGl9E&feature=PlayList&p=B4B5C108C5FAC091&index=0

watch all the parts both of you :)

actually,inspiron7, i've never actually "woken up," so to speak. i was always fully aware of the situation and just because i like Lexus doesnt mean i'm a tree hugging liberal.

Typo above, sorry. You can't spend your way out of debt.

Interesting video M53R. I'm "open minded" thanks.

yes I noticed. nps ;)

Firstly, to call Sweden's government "socialist" is an ignorant statement. Sweden is not a socialist country. It is a constitutional monarchy. Like The United Kingdom. Like Canada. Like Australia. Like New Zealand. Like Jamaica. Need I go on? For those who don't understand, that means they have a King or a Queen who is head of state, but have a democratically elected government. Because a country sees it fit to take on health, education, and owns businesses does not make it socialist or communist. Such a description is far more complicated than the likes of John McCain and J Edgar Hoover tried to insist. A country cannot be socialist when one politically is in office, and then miraculously be democratic when another steps in. And so what if Sweden is socialist? Is that an international crime?

Is Socialism a crime, no. Are we as a country Socialist, no. Socialism:" any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state.

What works for one country doesn't make for another."

Our foundation doesn't lend to a socialist mindset as a matter of fact, the complete opposite. If the U.S. was to follow Socialist practices, we would be exactly where all the other Socialist economies are and cease to exist as the country we once knew. Name one completely Socialist economy that is thriving?

At the same time, to have healthcare, GOOD education that isn't mandated by the government but by private as well as local institutions like it was during the formation of our early educational system is fine as long as we are not mandated to do these things. Its the choice of the people, the market that determines what we need to have. Its a thin line when big brother begin to tell you what you can and can not have when they become involved and more than likely, will be impossible to undue that kind of revenue stream.

minhvunguyen granted Wall Street isn't what American was founded on, but what happens when a small company (Ben and Jerry's, Apple, Inc. etc) become a Int'l, Corp. adding hundreds of jobs to the economy. What I'm getting at is yes we work for those companies that Wall Street represent like the government represent us. We can relate at a local level when it comes to representation, but when it gets to the state and federal level, we tend to feel its "them against us." Same as Wall Street. That is why it is easy to demonize something that doesn't have a face. So now we have a class war and the mindset that goes with it.

tango, you are making the mistake of confusing the political system with the economic system. Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, etc. are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS. That is to say, the way a society produces and distributes goods and services. Democracy, Monarchy, Theocracy, etc. are POLITACAL SYSTEMS. You sounds like need to take a few college level econ and poli sci courses before you can speak somewhat intelligently about these concepts, how they work, and what their implications are.

So if the UK is the envy of the world when it comes to nationalized healthcare, why are they on the verge of complete economic collapse? When that happens, who will get medical services? A lottery? Think.

btw, the liberal congress is ignoring the constitution when they make bills. for example, the 95% tax on bonuses to the rich.