Who Is Next? GM Officially Announces The End Of Pontiac!

Who Is Next?  GM Officially Announces The End Of Pontiac!
General Motors (NYSE: GM) today presented an updated Viability Plan that will speed the reinvention of GM's U.S. operations into a leaner, more customer-focused, and more cost-competitive automaker.

The Viability Plan is included in an exchange offer whereby GM is offering certain bondholders shares of GM common stock and accrued interest in exchange for certain outstanding notes.

Revised Viability Plan goes further and faster

The Viability Plan announced today builds on the February 17 Viability Plan submitted to the U.S. Treasury. http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=52168. The revised Plan accelerates the timeline for a number of important actions and makes deeper cuts in several key areas of GM's operations, with the objective to make us a leaner, faster, and more customer-focused organization going forward.

Significant changes include:

* A focus on four core brands in the U.S. - Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC - with fewer nameplates and a more competitive level of marketing support per brand.
* A more aggressive restructuring of GM's U.S. dealer organization to better focus dealer resources for improved sales and customer service.
* Improved U.S. capacity utilization through accelerated idling and closures of powertrain, stamping, and assembly plants.
* Lower structural costs, which GM North America (GMNA) projects will enable it to breakeven (on an adjusted EBIT basis) at a U.S. total industry volume of approximately 10 million vehicles, based on the pricing and share assumptions in the plan. This rate is substantially below the 15 to 17 million annual vehicle sales rates recorded from 1995 through 2007.

"We are taking tough but necessary actions that are critical to GM's long-term viability," said Fritz Henderson, GM president and CEO. "Our responsibility is clear - to secure GM's future - and we intend to succeed. At the same time, we also understand the impact these actions will have on our employees, dealers, unions, suppliers, shareholders, bondholders, and communities, and we will do whatever we can to mitigate the effects on the extended GM team."

Fewer U.S. brands, nameplates, and dealers

As part of the revised Viability Plan and the need to move faster and further, GM in the U.S. will focus its resources on four core brands, Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC. The Pontiac brand will be phased out by the end of 2010. GM will offer a total of 34 nameplates in 2010, a reduction of 29 percent from 48 nameplates in 2008, reflecting both the reduction in brands and continued emphasis on fewer and stronger entries. This four-brand strategy will enable GM to better focus its new product development programs and provide more competitive levels of market support.

The revised plan moves up the resolution of Saab, Saturn, and Hummer to the end of 2009, at the latest. Updates on these brands will be provided as these initiatives progress.

Working with its dealers, GM anticipates reducing its U.S. dealer count from 6,246 in 2008 to 3,605 by the end of 2010, a reduction of 42 percent. This is a further reduction of 500 dealers, and four years sooner, than in the February 17 Plan. The goal is to accomplish this reduction in an orderly, cost-effective, and customer-focused way. This reduction in U.S. dealers will allow for a more competitive dealer network and higher sales effectiveness in all markets. More details on these initiatives will be provided in May.

Sales volume and market share projections

The Viability Plan anticipates improved financial results despite more conservative U.S. sales volume expectations going forward. The lower volume expectations are the result of managing the business with fewer nameplates and dealers, leaner inventories, and reduced market share. To address the inventory issue, GM on April 23 announced U.S. production schedule reductions of approximately 190,000 vehicles during the second and early third quarters of 2009.

The Viability Plan also reduces GM's market share projections to adjust for the impact of the brand and dealer consolidation, as well as for the short-term impact of speculation regarding a GM bankruptcy. The plan assumes a 19.5 percent share in 2009, with share stabilizing in the 18.4 to 18.9 percent range in subsequent years.

"We have strong new product coming for our four core brands: the Chevrolet Camaro, Equinox, Cruze and Volt; Buick LaCrosse; GMC Terrain; and Cadillac SRX and CTS Sport Wagon and Coupe," said Henderson. "A tighter focus by GM and its dealers will help give these products the capital investment, marketing and advertising support they need to be truly successful."

Lower structural costs, lower breakeven point

The Viability Plan also lowers GMNA's breakeven volume to a U.S. annual industry volume of 10 million total vehicles, based on the pricing and share assumptions in the plan. This lower breakeven point (at an adjusted EBIT level) better positions GM to generate positive cash flow and earn an adequate return on capital over the course of a normal business cycle, a requirement set forth by the U.S. Treasury in its March 30 viability plan assessment.

GM will lower its breakeven point by cutting its structural costs faster and deeper than had previously been planned:

* Manufacturing: Consistent with the mandate to accelerate restructuring, we plan to reduce the total number of assembly, powertrain, and stamping plants in the U.S. from 47 in 2008 to 34 by the end of 2010, a reduction of 28 percent, and to 31 by 2012. This would reflect the acceleration of six plant idling/closures from the February 17 plan, and one additional plant idling. Throughout this transition, GM will continue to implement its flexible global manufacturing strategy (GMS), which allows multiple body styles and architectures to be built in one plant. This enables GM to use its capital more efficiently, increase capacity utilization, and respond more quickly to market shifts.

* Employment: U.S. hourly employment levels are projected to be reduced from about 61,000 in 2008 to 40,000 in 2010, a 34 percent reduction, and level off at about 38,000 starting in 2011. This further planned reduction of an additional 7,000 to 8,000 employees from the February 17 Plan is primarily the result of the previously discussed operational efficiencies, nameplate reductions, and plant closings. GM also anticipates a further decline in salaried and executive employment as it continues to assess its structure and execute the Viability Plan. More details will be announced as soon as they are finalized with the various stakeholders.
* Labor costs: The Viability Plan assumes a reduction of U.S. hourly labor costs from $7.6 billion in 2008 to $5 billion in 2010, a 34 percent reduction. GM will continue to work with its UAW partners to accomplish this through a reduction in total U.S. hourly employment as well as through modifications in the collective bargaining agreement.

As a result of these and other actions, GMNA's structural costs are projected to decline 25 percent, from $30.8 billion in 2008 to $23.2 billion in 2010, a further decline of $1.8 billion by 2010 versus the February 17 Plan.

Strengthening GM's balance sheet

Another key element of GM's restructuring will be taking the necessary actions to strengthen its balance sheet. GM today took an important step in improving its balance sheet by launching a bond exchange offer for approximately $27 billion of its unsecured public debt. If successful, the bond exchange would result in the conversion of a large majority of this debt to equity.

"A stronger balance sheet would free the company to invest in the products and technologies of the future," Henderson said. "It will also help provide stability and security to our customers, our dealers, our employees, and our suppliers."

Another important part of improving the balance sheet will be the ongoing discussions with the UAW to modify the terms of the Voluntary Employee Benefit Association (VEBA), and with the U.S. Treasury regarding possible conversion of its debt to equity. The current bond exchange offer is conditioned on the converting to equity of at least 50 percent of GM's outstanding U.S. Treasury debt at June 1, 2009, and at least 50 percent of GM's future financial obligations to the new VEBA. GM expects a debt reduction of at least $20 billion between the two actions.

In total, the U.S. Treasury debt conversion, VEBA modification and bond exchange could result in at least $44 billion in debt reduction.

Throughout the Plan, GM will continue to make significant investment in future products and new technologies, with an investment of $5.4 billion in 2009, and investments ranging from $5.3 to $6.7 billion from 2010 to 2014. Very importantly, development and testing of the Chevy Volt extended-range electric car remains on track for start of production by the end of 2010 and arrival in Chevrolet dealer showrooms soon thereafter.

"The Viability Plan reflects the direction of President Obama and the U.S. Treasury that GM should go further and faster on our restructuring," Henderson said. "We appreciate their support and direction. This stronger, leaner business model will enable GM to keep doing what it does best - provide great new cars, trucks and crossovers to our customers, and continue to develop new advanced propulsion technologies that are vital for our country's economy and environment."

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About GM - General Motors Corp. (NYSE: GM), one of the world's largest automakers, was founded in 1908, and today manufactures cars and trucks in 34 countries. With its global headquarters in Detroit, GM employs 243,000 people in every major region of the world, and sells and services vehicles in some 140 countries. In 2008, GM sold 8.35 million cars and trucks globally under the following brands: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, Hummer, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn, Vauxhall and Wuling. GM's largest national market is the United States, followed by China, Brazil, the United Kingdom, Canada, Russia and Germany. GM's OnStar subsidiary is the industry leader in vehicle safety, security and information services. More information on GM can be found at www.gm.com.

Forward-Looking Statements - In this press release and in related comments by our management, our use of the words "plan," "expect," "anticipate," "ensure," "promote," "believe," "improve," "intend," "enable," "continue," "will," "may," "would," "could," "should," "project," "positioned" or similar expressions is intended to identify forward-looking statements that represent our current judgment about possible future events. We believe these judgments are reasonable, but these statements are not guarantees of any events or financial results, and our actual results may differ materially due to a variety of important factors. Among other items, such factors might include: our ability to comply with the requirements of our credit agreement with the U.S. Treasury; our ability to execute the restructuring plans that we have disclosed, our ability to maintain adequate liquidity and financing sources and an appropriate level of debt; the ability of our foreign subsidiaries to restructure and receive financial support from their local governments or other sources; our ability to restore consumers' confidence in our viability and to continue to attract customers, particularly for our new products; our ability to sell, spin-off or phase out some of our brands, to manage the distribution channels for our products, and to complete other planned asset sales; and the overall strength and stability of general economic conditions and of the automotive industry, both in the U.S. and globally.

Our most recent reports on SEC Forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K provide information about these and other factors, which may be revised or supplemented in future reports to the SEC on those forms.


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LACMANLACMAN - 4/27/2009 9:31:30 AM
-4 Boost
Sad but we saw it coming. I dont think this will hurt my feelings worse than when Oldsmobile left though.


SHOWTIMESHOWTIME - 4/27/2009 9:38:28 AM
+13 Boost
I wish they would at least shift over this G8 model to Chevrolet. Best thing pontiac ever did was this car.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 4/27/2009 9:46:56 AM
+9 Boost
To bad they never sold well.


carfindercarfinder - 4/27/2009 9:57:58 AM
+9 Boost
The G8 should be the Chevy BelAir. Its a waste to loose all that engeneering on a car that will most likely still be offered down under.


M53RM53R - 4/27/2009 11:54:38 AM
+8 Boost
It is sold here in the UAE under the Chevrolet brand. As the Lumina.


M53RM53R - 4/27/2009 1:21:40 PM
+4 Boost
Why not? We also have the caprice..


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:34:45 PM
+4 Boost
Bel Air? Lumina??? Who are you people? This car was screaming 'Impala SS' before they glued the Pontiac badges on the grill. You'd have to be a complete idiot not to see that.


lexusrox123lexusrox123 - 4/28/2009 9:05:29 AM
+4 Boost
g8 was pretty nice...


dumpstydumpsty - 4/28/2009 10:35:30 AM
+2 Boost
I would've been nice if GM said, "Wait! We can't just let the G8 platform die. Let's kill the G8 nameplate (for now) and take the platform over to the guys at Cadillac. Maybe they can cook-up a next gen STS sport/luxury sedan using a combination of the next gen Northstar & current LS engines."

Cadillac would continue work on the DTS replacement for a true luxury flagship vehicle.

...but I may be dreaming a bit here...


fatandsassyfatandsassy - 4/27/2009 9:43:56 AM
+3 Boost
So much for that Pontiac Solstice Coupe. I actually liked the looks of it. It should have been a rocket on the streets.
I am more upset that this mean there is no chance of a Firebird / Trans AM version of the Camaro..


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:21:02 AM
+2 Boost
The Solstice coupe is still for sale. All warranties will be backed by other GM dealers. You could likely get quite a steal on something that may become a collectors item in a few years.


JMB1013JMB1013 - 4/27/2009 9:44:57 AM
+1 Boost
It always sucks to see a name like Pontiac drop, but these next few years should be very exciting if GM is going to be able to produce full lineups of cars/trucks with the quality they've recently shown. Maybe if they'd been a little quicker to the punch we'd still have Pontiac.


Hachee2001Hachee2001 - 4/27/2009 9:59:20 AM
+4 Boost
Pontiac has been dying a long, slow death for years, so of course it's not surprising in light of the current environment, but I don't find it all that sad. This brand has been so unfocused for decades. I actually was sadder to see Oldsmobile go, although except for a few quite decent models towards its end, it had lost it's way too. But Olds had been selling (I believe) over a million cars a year at its peak, which was only about 10 or 15 years before its death. I think it was number two to only Chevy, even outselling the Ford nameplate (perhaps not including trucks, I can't remember).

I don't really see the point of GMC, but I guess it has a lot of dealer coverage in suburban and rural areas where they sell a lot of the trucks, and while a lot of these sales would probably go to Chevy if they shuttered GMC, I assume Ford would pick up a lot. I have to assume the numbers work to keep it going. If it wasn't for China, Buick would go too, but they should really now step it up a bit. And there's no reason why Chevy can't have a complete lineup from top to bottom, much like Toyota's, which of course, they once had.


LACMANLACMAN - 4/27/2009 10:07:09 AM
+11 Boost
If GM has any brains left on board, they will rebadge the G8 as the Impala. Didnt they spend alot of $$$ on that project? Solstice/Sky should go to Chevy too. Im VERY disappointed GM is still trying to hold on to GMC and Buick. They are useless here in the U.S.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:22:59 AM
+1 Boost
The G8 costs next to nothing for GM. The chassis was designed to be paid for by the Holden cars. So the rebadged nose and certification for the G8 was easily paid for by the 1st year sales.


HSCenterconsoleHSCenterconsole - 4/27/2009 10:14:19 AM
+10 Boost
1UAW must be weeping right now.


SpectatorSpectator - 4/27/2009 11:01:44 AM
+4 Boost
Sad to lose pontiac...a 68 Pontiac LeMans Racer was my first car.

However happy to see a reduction in stealerships by 42%.

Now if they would only declare bankruptcy and kill the unions. Then I'd jump for joy.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:41:52 PM
+1 Boost
You talk a good game, but would you say the same thing to these guys' faces??? The real natural order is that the biggest, strongest, toughest, meanest guys get all the food and all the mates. So real men who work with their hands actually have it all over pencil pushing shit talkers like you. I'm an educated professional myself, but your disrespect for laborers indicates a lack of real world life experience.
I hope some big dumb thug beats the shit out of you and robs you blind. When you ask him why, he will tell you: 'because i'm bigger and stronger than you and you can't stop me!' See if you can think your way out of that one, smart guy.
Also, you are neglecting the danger in that type of manufacturing work - people are sometimes maimed and killed by machines in factories.
Everyone deserves a living wage if they are doing honest work. They are building cars, not knitting sweaters.


commander104commander104 - 4/27/2009 10:09:15 PM
+5 Boost
UPS doesn't seem to be suffering under the teamsters. They're still competitive as heck in the shipping service.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:25:34 AM
+2 Boost
Wow, one would think being in the army would have taught you to respect others more than it seems you do.

You are coming off as quite an elitist prick.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/28/2009 2:44:52 PM
+4 Boost
you are a loser. anyone with the credentials you claim wouldn't have the time or even an interest in typing self-hyping solilioqies on the internet to insult and/or impress strangers. surely, you'd have something better to do.

only an idiot makes the kind of assumptions about people and situations that you do based on little to no actual information. Henry Ford had little formal education. He knew about building things and he had solid business ideas, he was a success. Smart guys do win, but only if they are smart enough not to assume that everyone else is stupid. If you are who you say you are, then you are doomed.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 10:14:08 PM
+3 Boost
Mike, what is your degree in? I have a good idea but I just want confirmation. Also if you think that being having a 'thinking job' is 100% your brain then you must be a theoretical physicist because every other profession I can think of involves actually doing something. Even brain surgeons use their hands to manipulate instruments, they are paid just as much or more for their skill in the operating room as for the diagnosis they offer.

As for serving our country, I personally want to thank you for that as well as each and every member of our armed services in the world, and while I haven't ever been in the armed services I would think that they DO teach you more respect for others than to act the way you are. This is from my personal experience with either enlisted or discharged individuals of various ranks. Quite frankly I think other members of our armed services would be quite disappointed in you for your attitude.

As for being an elitist, it is something that you are raised with. I have no problem with people trying to better their situation, I am not only the first member of my lineage to attend college but the first to get a degree and soon the first to get a doctorate. What I have a problem with is people who judge others, as you seem to do so easily. I see it everyday as I serve people to help pay for school. Quite frankly it makes me think less of you if you look down on others and I doubt I am alone in this.

A little suggestion for the future: try not to judge others because that person you are judging may be the one who helps you in the future. That lazy bum UAW worker may be the person that stops to help you when you break down or have an emergency with no cell service.


PPowerPPower - 4/27/2009 11:23:31 AM
+3 Boost
Hopefully the Solstice and G8 will transfer over to Chevrolet. It is very sad to see brands go, but they are brands that never should have been in the first place. I agree that if it weren't for China, there would be no Buick at all. GMC is just a way for Buick/Pontiac dealers to offer a truck line as well, so Buick/GMC is effectively a single brand always paired together at dealerships. Both are supposed to be "nicer" and softer than Chevy but not expressly luxury like Cadillac.


LexSucksLexSucks - 4/27/2009 11:39:37 AM
0 Boost
Glad I didn't buy a G8.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:46:02 PM
+3 Boost
Why? You think the Chevy dealer can't service the Corvette engine under the hood?... Stupid comment. No GM division has built unique mechanical parts since the early 1980's. The G8 is made of the same parts and systems that every other GM vehicle is made of, any GM dealer can service it.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:27:21 AM
+3 Boost
Pushrod, the G8 has more unique parts (non north american) than Anything else GM sells in the US. While the powertrain is very easy to work on because it is a corporate (not a Corvette engine a GM engine) unit.


DexDiamondsDexDiamonds - 4/27/2009 11:50:18 AM
+5 Boost
With the Malibu at the size it is now and offering FWD, the G8 definitely should be the next-gen Impala.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:48:29 PM
+4 Boost
Exactly. The G8 should never have been, it made more sense as an Impala SS to begin with.


t_sotellot_sotello - 4/27/2009 11:54:06 AM
+2 Boost
What I dont get is why they cut pontiac which sold more cars than either saturn cadillac saab and hummer in 2008 and yet they still have those four brands in their lineup.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:50:15 PM
+2 Boost
I don't have numbers in front of me, but I'm almost positive that Pontiac did not outsell Cadillac. If they did, then it's about profit margins. I heard that when the Escalades were at their peak popularity, GM was building them for $10k and selling them for $65k.


mini22mini22 - 4/27/2009 11:57:27 AM
+1 Boost
I don't know if the G8 would transfer over to Chevy but the Solstice should because it would offer people a cut price Corvette. The problem is GM took too long to start bringing in models that attracted people to Pontiac. The G8 and Solstice should have come out 10 yrs ago. The GTO should have had the retro styling from the beginning. Pontiac was all about excitment. Yet the bulk of it's models were rebadged Chevy's. If you end up making the same car with a different badge on it the only thing that happens is that sales diminish from the weaker marque.Ford still has this problem with Lincoln Mercury. They just don't get it.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:52:11 PM
+2 Boost
'I don't know if the G8 would transfer to Chevy...' What planet are you from? Impala SS... HELLOOOO! Even with the 'Pontiac' and 'G8' badges, the car screams 'Impala SS!' from every angle, not to mention the Chevy small block V8 under the hood.


rigidrigid - 4/27/2009 12:42:02 PM
+4 Boost
I drove a G8 this weekend and was amazed by the car it felt like a quality product. I will be calling the salesman today to see what offers they will make now that they know the end is coming. 300+ HP under $20K would gte my money.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:54:14 PM
+2 Boost
Exactly my thoughts! I'm hoping the Pontiac dealers will liquidate and sell G8 GTs at a huge discount. If I see a brand new one for $25k or less, I will get one that very day!


thstonethstone - 4/27/2009 12:47:41 PM
+6 Boost
They should drop GMC.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:31:26 AM
+1 Boost
GMC is VERY profitable. Think of it this way: it costs next to nothing to rebadge a Chevy truck into a GMC, but GMC charges more for its trucks AND it has the 2nd highest volume of any GM network (chevy is #1). Cutting GMC would instantly cut GMs most profitable division, reduce its ability to recover, and make it take longer to pay back the taxpayers.

But if you guys hate GMC that bad I am sure it would be possible to cut the brand.


PerformanceGuyPerformanceGuy - 4/27/2009 1:03:34 PM
+1 Boost
Think it was a mistake to cut Pontiac and keep Buick!


roundwegoroundwego - 4/27/2009 1:53:14 PM
-9 Boost

Get rid of Toyota and Honda!


_43LE_43LE - 4/27/2009 2:09:20 PM
+1 Boost
Crappy/Cheesyrider/BigCheesy/Roundy:

So would you say get rid of BMW and Mercedes and Audi just to help out Cadillac?


PlanBPlanB - 4/27/2009 2:18:36 PM
+3 Boost
Every car in the Pontiac stable (except the G8 and Solstice) Chevy already makes a better re-badged version of it. The next Impala should ride the G8 platform (if they're smart) and the Solstice is a toss up as far as I'm concerned. Overall I'm sad to see the nameplate go (lots of good and bad memories) but hopefully this will make GM a better and more focused automaker.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 8:56:56 PM
+1 Boost
Not the next generation Impala on this platform - THIS car as the new Impala, immediately. Keep the factory going and the ships sailing, but they need to start putting bowties on these things ASAP.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:33:02 AM
+1 Boost
pushrod, there is a contract that guarantees the Impala name to the Oshawa factory. If GM uses the name on the rebadged holden a lawsuit starts (if they use another name there is now lawsuit).


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 4/27/2009 3:01:29 PM
+3 Boost
Poor move on GM's part. Just as Ford has done with its brand fire sale GM (at a time when they were just starting to get interesting and worthwhile products again) is closing a historic brand that oculd have a future.
Pontiac could have run on the G8, a new Trans Am, solsstice and G8. They should have given the cars names again and not tried to be in every segmment. That would have helped a hole lot.
In addition (here comes the unpopular part) GM Ford and Chrysler should sit the UAW out on their asses and adopt a more modern approach. I really don't have anything angainst unions but in this case they really have made business harder for the car companies.
Deboost if you must.
T



WhelanWhelan - 4/27/2009 3:08:34 PM
+3 Boost
I like making my points bulleted, keeps it concise and thought provoking :-)

1) The G8 will most likely find a home in a new Chevy Impala. They are due for a major update redesign on that car. And not to mention they have been on and off with the SS badging trying to get it going again. So why not offer the Impala SS again with the 415hp (G8 GXP). They cannot let a great setup like the G8 simply die out in the states, it was just badged wrong).

2) Saturn was already on the block, they have it up for sale and if there are no takers by year end, they are gone too. Remember, as of recent Saturn is pretty much a bunch of re-badged Opels fixed up for US regulations.

3) Buick is a really big seller for GM, especially in Asia where they are considered prized. The Asian market is getting into bigger cars which we have a history of producing. They are getting more people who can afford to drive (think the US auto boom years ago). Except they have more options and want that comfortable family mover. Not to mention Buick in the US is getting more recognition with upcoming models and a really good product reputation and review on their current lineup. Since Acura is getting pushed aside with awful designs that are underpowered in comparison, Buick has a good chance to go take on Lexus. Lexus is looking at BMW, Audi, MB while forgetting to watch it's back against Caddy and Buick. This point is longer, but Buick is taking on Lexus while Caddy is distancing itself and moving up and up towards BMW, Audi, etc. in comparison.

4) The Solstice was a fun car, pretty much a Miata MX-5 killer from the bat. Saturn has the Sky which I personally liked better cause of the styling. But there should be no reason Chevy cannot pick this car up and rename it to go head to head with the MX-5 again. It's a much better car IMO.

5) The just released new Vibe is a joint venture with Toyota and their Matrix. For the time, until the Cruze comes out to replace Cobalt, they could make this the Cobalt 5-door. A hatch to compete with the Mazda 3 and Dodge Caliber (as it currently does). Although I would use the Cobalt SS engine for its sport version instead of the 2.4L which barely squeaks 184hp. If your making a sport version (mazdaspeed, SS, etc.) The new rules of the game are to have over 200hp to be competitive.

6) Pontiac reminds me of Oldsmobile, except they took it a bit further. Oldsmobile never got the chance to really bring updated new, exciting models to fruition before they were axed. They got lax and paid the price. Pontiac was the same way with the constant over-cladded models that offered excitement but nothing under the hood or in the performance to back it up. They went further in introducing new models and expanding the GTP (now GXP) performance cars and cleaning up the lineup (G6). But it was too little too late and they got chunky trying to offer a small SUV (Torrent) which Pontiac was NOT known for anything in the truck worl


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/27/2009 9:01:38 PM
+2 Boost
I agree with most of you comment. But you were wrong about one thing: #6. Pontiac is exactly like Olds was then. Shortly before Oldsmobile died, the Aurora sedan was critically aclaimed for its modern design, great structural rigidity, and Cadillac-based 'Shortstar' V8. Like the G8, it was a great, well recieved sedan that was too little, too late to save the brand.


91z4me91z4me - 4/28/2009 8:36:27 AM
+1 Boost
#5 The Vibe competes with the HHR (which has the 2.0t from the Cobalt SS model in the HHRSS). It doesn't make sense to move the Vibe to Chevrolet at all. If any division should get a version make it Buick (even if it doesn't fit the brand).


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 4/27/2009 5:11:23 PM
+5 Boost
Next to go will be saturn... They do not need the brand-then they should sell off Saab. They should keep Chevy for the everyday economy car, Cadillac for the luxury division. And thats all they really need...


JordanskiJordanski - 4/27/2009 8:20:00 PM
+5 Boost
GMC and Buick needs to die. GMC shares the market with Chevrolet, and Buick virtually has no market to cater to (besides China).


VISOVISO - 4/27/2009 10:42:16 PM
+1 Boost
Cadillac has a very long way to go to be considered on the same level as Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz. Automobiles aside, it the culture that Cadillac lacks that the other three have. To be such a big global player, GM needs to adopt the principles of VAG. Return Cadillac back to a separate company as it once was while being part of a larger GM Group. Therefore GM would be more like GM (Chevy and Buick) and Cadillac Inc. as its own entity yet its shares are owned by GM, but are separate from GM. Allow Cadillac to forge its own destiny including its own development, R&D, exclusitivity, etc while sharing economies of scale with GM. Cadillac dealers need to stand alone and then Cadillac can forge a global presence. Also, give Cadillac the ability to develop its own models and racing programs. Then someday Cadillac can assume its place next to Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz and to a lesser extent Lexus. This model works and has worked very well. Cadillac was its own company prior to GM. Allow Cadillac to re-establish itself once again. This will result in a change in culture that if nurtured correctly will establish Cadillac as a global competitor in the premium market. If they don't, it is good bye Cadillac in the future.


pushrod27pushrod27 - 4/28/2009 4:34:33 PM
+1 Boost
'Cadillac was it's own company prior to GM...' yeah, for seven years from 1909 to 1912!!! It was so long ago and so brief that it means nothing. I think GM has done a good job seperating Cadillac from the other brands (with the exception of the Cimarron!) Cadillac historically gets first dibs on new designs, unique engines, and systems. Cadillac typically engineers things, uses them first, and then they trickle down to the other brands. It's not like GM cobbles together parts-bin components to make a Cadillac, it was never really that way. When they had the money, GM always treated Cadillac special.
Yes, the Escalade is Tahoe-based, but it was a hasty responsed to the wildly successful Lincoln Navigator, and it was such a sales success, who could question it?


BozzorTheGreatBozzorTheGreat - 4/28/2009 6:51:23 AM
+4 Boost
As an Australian, I am very proud that the G8 has made it to the US and gotten goo reviews: there are some quality issues that really need improvement, but in terms of a good handling, comfortable, fairly spacious and quite affordable rwd v8, this car is simply one of the best value propositions out. No one is kidding that it is in the BMW 5 or E class league in all measures, but it is not shamed by those cars either in any. I hope GM can see that.


Type707Type707 - 4/29/2009 3:49:40 AM
0 Boost
Buh-Bye Firebird


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