Obama Adminstration Deals a Crippling Blow By Lowering Emissions And Increasing Mileage Standards

Under a compromise being announced tomorrow, California and 13 other states efforts to impose a 30 percent reduction in tailpipe emissions will be approved and extended to the rest of the country. The federal government is expected to set mileage standards that are consistent with those requirements -- about 42 mpg by 2016 for cars and at least 26.6 mpg for light trucks.

California and many other states have long sought to impose their own tailpipe emissions standards, but were stymied by the Bush administration, which refused to grant them a waiver under the Clean Air Act to do so. Automakers fought in court for years to block the standards and lobbied government officials to stop them.


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Joe_Limon - 5/18/2009 4:45:20 PM

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I don't want a hybrid... or a diesel... or a hybrid diesel... I guess my next vehicle will be a "classic" car with a 350 v8.

DinamoR - 5/19/2009 7:50:22 AM

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noone gives a crap what you want, when what you want finances terrorist regimes around the world, sends billions of our money overseas instead of creating jobs here, and is bad for our climate

F*** you and what you want

Obama 2012 biyatch HAHAHA

09CTSVforMe - 5/19/2009 10:18:15 AM

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Wow, Dino, you've really bought into what the media and Government want you to believe.

Why don't you start by looking at where most of our money for oil actually goes. I'll give you a hint: CANADA.

The middle east is a bit further down the list. Don't believe the scare tactics, do some research.

09CTSVforMe - 5/19/2009 10:26:10 AM

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Here, look, the middle column is YTD 2009:

CANADA 1,913 1,946 1,930 1,920 1,933
MEXICO 1,219 1,299 1,261 1,231 1,214
SAUDI ARABIA 1,099 1,337 1,224 1,614 1,544
VENEZUELA 960 1,172 1,072 945 1,043
ANGOLA 671 527 595 341 458
IRAQ 554 568 562 780 658
NIGERIA 457 488 473 982 1,075
BRAZIL 365 397 382 169 169
KUWAIT 251 225 237 261 249
ECUADOR 243 272 258 169 209
COLOMBIA 225 225 225 220 194
EQUATORIAL GUINEA 167 118 141 69 53
ALGERIA 142 359 256 191 281
RUSSIA 139 157 149 80 47
CHAD 101 79 90 89 103

DinamoR - 5/19/2009 5:57:59 PM

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LOL...we send hundreds of billions a year to middle east for oil. that is not scare tactics, but a fact

09CTSVforMe - 5/19/2009 6:07:37 PM

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"LOL" all you want, but the fact, which I even gave you the numbers on, is that we DO NOT SEND BILLIONS TO TERRORIST SUPPORTING REGIMES as you first stated (and which has been a mantra of Obama's campaign and Presidency.

We send billions to Canada and Mexico, and then many countires that ARE NOT Pakistan or Afghanistan or other supporters of terrorism.

You cannot argue my facts, because they are indeed facts. LOL at yourself, because you are the fool.

Here's another fact that you probably cannot comprehend...the US has the third largest reserves of fossil fuels in the world.

Go get educated, then LOL at your ignorance.

DinamoR - 5/19/2009 6:18:14 PM

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And the canadian shale oil is the worst raping of the environment I've ever seen. After they get that oil, they leave behind a place that looks like mount doom from lord of the rings. why would anyone with a healthy mind support that??

veyron1001 - 5/18/2009 5:17:16 PM

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Too bad most americans are too fat to ride a motorcycle. Easily getting over 40mpg with the spirited riding I do.

0to60 - 5/18/2009 10:00:12 PM

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I see plenty of fat ppl on motorcycles when I am out. Men and Women.

truckman - 5/19/2009 5:53:26 AM

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LOl Most bikers are FAT! It's just there life style.

cdoke - 5/18/2009 6:33:40 PM

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I am reminded of something Harold Korell, the CEO of Southwestern Energy, the company which has been the top performer in the S&P 500 for eight years running-better even than Apple, said at a fund raiser I attended a couple of weeks ago.

Political laws do not nullify or trump economic or physical laws.

You cannot shorten the critical technological path by mandate without inducing massive system losses. Further, there is a toll in terms of the end product utility. You arrive at an inferior product and a higher cost.

Agent009 - 5/19/2009 8:12:23 AM

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Well duhhh. The automakers are already broke, so you slap not only one very expensive measure on them to complete quickly but now two... and don't forget the new rollover requirements,

Obama has yet to be proven so I will stay mum on that one. Maybe he has a master plan to take over Canada and Mexico....shhhh!

FerrarisR4me - 5/18/2009 8:27:45 PM

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Maybe 009 likes Obama, and dislikes pollution, emissions, and OPEC. It seems that is what President Obama has dealt a "crippling blow" to.

Agent009 - 5/19/2009 8:13:22 AM

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There is a time and place for everything.. the question is: Is this the right time?

crslmn - 5/18/2009 9:54:58 PM

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I don't want to drive a car the size of a Yaris.

thetruth01 - 5/18/2009 10:46:37 PM

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Crippling Blow, ummm, u did hear that the Auto Alliance agreed to this right? Gee maybe now our fuel economy will approach that of say... China?

toolatetorace - 5/18/2009 11:52:56 PM

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If we get forced into econo cans They will only be able to seat two people if they are of size ( political correctness ) . The driver will have it's normal postion , except the seat will be all the way back , hence eliminating anyone directly in back . The passenger will have to sit diagonly to the driver in the back seat because there will be no room on the passenger side of car due to the drivers gerth spilling over to the right . Nope , new fuel mileage ideas no good . it will put too many cars on the road

g2ok - 5/19/2009 12:18:51 AM

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The blow is to our domestic car makers that will struggle to meet the new requirements on top of all the problems. I think Obama means well, but it's just not a good time for the car companies. Also, USA is not Europe or Asia and never will be, so I wish all the other countries who say we have big cars, houses or asses would just mind their business, seeing how we keep this whole planet spinning. Just because your lives suck, don't be dragging us down.

Agent001 - 5/19/2009 1:23:04 AM

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And how does this help American workers when the American companies don't have any of these kind of cars that are world beaters against the competition.

Makes it even harder for them to comeback.

001

Agent001 - 5/19/2009 1:28:30 AM

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Takes years to do it and tons of money...American car companies don't have the time or the money.

001

truckman - 5/19/2009 6:05:32 AM

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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/green_machines/pml_flightlink_electric_mini_cooper_car_news This car has 640 BHP and is already better on gas than the new standard, for the people like you and I that like HP there is no need to worry too much. My biggest concern is that none of the companies have smart enough people to match PML's economy and power.This tech could be put into a Hummer H-1 and probably get similar economy as the prius,check out the link above before you make an informed opinion.

truckman - 5/22/2009 5:42:37 AM

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Please explain in technical detail why I was de-boosted! Back up why you disagree with what I have stated! Or hide because you have nothing intelligent to say!You never even read the web sight did you!

DinamoR - 5/19/2009 7:49:12 AM

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SWEET!!! After 3 decades of dragging our feet, finally, real progress!

I love Obama

pushrod27 - 5/19/2009 8:22:05 AM

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Makes me wish I didn't vote for him. Why can't you wacky liberal environmentalists just leave the cars alone??? This miserable planet is doomed anyway, so why make our time here less enjoyable with stupid rules?

truckman - 5/24/2009 4:49:51 AM

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It's not all doom and gloom, check out this F-150,
http://www.hipadrive.com/sema.html 100mpg plus!

HSCenterconsole - 5/19/2009 8:30:17 AM

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Higher mileage standards means smaller cars. This will further accelerate the decline of the American automotive industry since The Big Three have never profited from making small cars (their profit has come from SUV's and trucks). My prediction is that Americans will drive their older, bigger cars longer rather than being forced to drive econoboxes.

Joe_Limon - 5/19/2009 8:58:47 AM

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The Germans will suffer from this as well. Their "fuel efficient" vehicles still have a hard time getting past 30mpg, save the tdi jetta.

PlanB - 5/19/2009 9:40:10 AM

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It looks like sports cars as we know them are about to go extinct. Time to get that Camaro SS.

SHOWTIME - 5/19/2009 9:45:59 AM

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Enjoy the V8s V10s and V12s while they last!

09CTSVforMe - 5/19/2009 10:23:41 AM

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Just a little tangent here...

If America completely outlawed fossil fuel burning vehicles and we all walked or rode bicycles, China and Inda alone will be burning more oil than we could ever dream of in the next 20 years.

Why would we choose to hamper our industry and consumer choices if the "goal" is moot due to lack of global consensus? This is exacgtly why we didn't (and shouldn't have) sign the Kyoto Protocol.

Also, would it be easier and more cost effective to ban any vehicle that gets less than 20mpg now? We'd probably get 75% of the way ther in one year. That would be much more effective...

TheDepressingTruth - 5/22/2009 1:18:43 AM

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@ jpnuss

Wheeee...The Depression is OVER..SO SAYTH jpnuss...At close on 05/21/09 GM stock is up 32.47% over the previous closing price...TO $1.92

But Ford is down 1.48% BooHoo Hoo so maybe everthing ISN'T Sunshine and Lollypops in Obamaland

Remember the saying.."As goes General Motors..so goes America"

Well, America is now a FREEKIN PENNY STOCK...so low it could be "de-listed" from the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

TheDepressingTruth - 5/22/2009 12:06:47 AM

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".. 42 mpg(average) by 2016 for cars and at least 26.6 mpg(average) for light trucks"
Oh..and while you're at it...MAKE CANDY BARS FLY OUT OF THE TAIL PIPE!

Buy a truck NOW...Bubba,that is if you ever want to haul that Bass Boat to the lake (not that they arn't coming after the boat next...Recreational Boating is such a waste of energy and NOT APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FOR SERFS

truckman - 5/22/2009 5:37:44 AM

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http://www.hipadrive.com/sema.html
For all you morons that can't read this link is a hybrid F-150 that gets 100.MPG with 640BHP! These are facts and have been done, this company has been at this for a while, mostly with the military. You can have your cake and eat it too! Read the link before you deboost me!

truckman - 5/24/2009 4:55:28 AM

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I give up on all of you morons that can't read! Some of you morons are too lazy to read or just choose to be blind.Why do we have so many idiots on this site! Luckily there are some intelligent people here too, The web master should kick out the morons!