Question of the day: Why do we need all of that V6 V8 V10 V12 Power if we are not legally allowed to use it?

Question of the day: Why do we need all of that V6 V8 V10 V12 Power if we are not legally allowed to use it?
The Obama Administration is not playing around about these cars. So the time is now to re-think how we drive. I am years ahead of most of you guys in thinking, and driving V6s early in my driving life made me think that way.

I HyundaiSmoke am a Small Car Connoissuer. My little 2007 Accent has 110 HP stock with: a turbo of only 5 PSI, a Short ram intake, and exhaust. Without the modifications except the cold air intake, I got a ticket for doing 128 MPH in a rural area. When the State Trooper pulled me over, he asked with shock and awe: "This car can rev-up that high?" I said yeah, "I have been driving Hyundai Small Cars for years, and know what they can really do when pushed to the limits. It better rev up that high. As a Matter of fact Trooper, if this New Model wasnt capable of that, I wouldnt have bought it."

Then I added, "Also Trooper, most of these small cars made today except the Nissan Versa: Becuase I tested every one of them, are capable of being pushed in this manner."

After that experience, it really sunk in to me that most Americans still have an inner psychology that most small cars are 1978 Chevettes with 56 HP engines that take 30 seconds to go up to 60 MPH.

Think about this for a second guys? I am imploring you to consider a few facts, comparisons, and contrasts here, becuase beliefs about small cars are going to be put on trial right now.

Case Study:

1. A 3 door 1978 Chevette had nearly the same wheelbase as a Smart car does today. They both have 56 HP engines as well.

2. A Honda Fit today is longer wider, and taller than an equivalent 5 door Civic from 1990. The Honda Fit is also larger than The previous generation US Civic (2000-2005). The Fit today has more horsepower than both models.

3. The Current Gen Hyundai Accent is almost as long and wide as previous gen Elantra.

4. The Chevy Aveo is longer, wider, and taller than any pre 1994 Cavilier. With more HP of course.

5. The Toyota Yaris Sedan was almost as long as the last gen Toyota Corolla sedan, and is longer than the 1997-2002 Corolla Models.

My Points are:

1. The B-Segment cars of today are longer, wider, and taller than ever before, there are many past examples on the road today to prove my point.

2. The C-Segment cars of today have grown in size in Horsepower you see many of those new and used everyday.

3. In most states the speed limits are limited to 70, in more populated states like the one I live in the speed limits are either 65 or 55 MPH. While, in less populated states the speed limits can range from 75 to no speed limit at all. Most us in here are car nuts who speed when we can get away with it. Lets be real, yall.

4. These small cars can give you the efficiency and horsepower you want. You just have to know how to use it. So why: the V6, V8, V10, and V12 power? Small cars of today have quicker 0-60 times than most V6 models made 10 years ago.

5. Small car tech is catching up, and making plain milquetoast V6s obsolete.

Look at the Future:

Next Gen Focus 175-200 HP with 43 MPG.

KIA Forte 2.0 Genesis Turbo with 210HP and 36 MPG.

Next Gen Hyundai Accent 130 HP with nearly 50 MPG.




So the Question is: Why do we need all of that V6 V8 V10 V12 Power if we are not legally allowed to use it?
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JordanskiJordanski - 5/20/2009 12:09:23 AM
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It's called RPM.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 5/20/2009 12:13:31 AM
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It's not about top speed, it's about acceleration. That raw feeling of taking off is what is attractive about cars with plenty of power. You don't need to speed in order to feel full throttle.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 5/20/2009 2:10:54 PM
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Could you stop burning the Chevette? It is actually a pretty decent little car. If you ever get the chance to look at the underside everything is wayy overbuilt, which makes them perfect tough little cars for ice racing. Ice racing where power does nothing :P


ShredmoShredmo - 5/20/2009 10:44:34 AM
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Subaru is the answer to that question.

If you want to be socially responsible, get rid of your fuel inefficient Hyundai & buy a Cannondale. As a commuter cyclist, the pollution emissions gap between you and I is FAR larger than the pollution gap between you and the driver of a gas powered Ford Excursion. What gives you the right?

Quit smogging it up HyundaiSmoke.


sstainbasstainba - 5/20/2009 8:48:19 AM
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I thought it was cause it made our dicks bigger. ?


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 5/20/2009 8:56:02 AM
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Well, for people who uses cars on track days or poeple who needs a faster passing speed, a 4pot will not do the work as fast as a 6-8-10-12pot engine will.

Its not just about acceleration from stop.

In any case, they'll still be speed junkies who will want to drive fast (and risk their lives along with the lives of others) on the street.


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 5/20/2009 8:57:25 AM
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a 4 pot will not do as well as a 6 pot or 8 pot for towing purposes, that is why we need them


PPowerPPower - 5/20/2009 10:33:03 AM
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You are an idiot, and your pride in the fact that you got a speeding ticket for going 128mph is the pudding that holds the proof. We're light years ahead of you in maturity.

You have a bit of a point. Why shouldn't cars be electronically limited to the highest speed limit in the country? One day it may happen. Here's part of the problem with your idiocy. The problem is with displacement, not the number of cylinders. The displacement is for the torque, and that is being resolved with turbos, diesels, and hybrids. It will take time for the change, but it's happening.


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 5/20/2009 3:35:19 PM
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Getting a speed ticket is nothing to be ashamed of.

Setting stupidly low speed limits so that the Drunk/High/Eating/Reading/Chatting idiots on the road can get about without killing others is something to be ashamed of.

Try driving from NY to Miami in 24hrs while doing 55-70 mph.

The problem is trying to set the speed limits for the Lowest Common Denominators of drivers.
Make Driving Tests Much More Difficult, and One Strike policy on DWI offenders and you would have German Style Autobahns that will have less Accident & Fatality rates than you currently have in the USA.


LexxxusLexxxus - 5/20/2009 10:53:04 AM
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I used to own a 1998 Mercedes-Benz S600. Obviously, these cars have goten much more powerful since then, but the power was waaaaay overkill even back then.

It was an impulse buy. It was purchased slightly pre-owned but still was a budget buster. The logic (at the time) was that I was working in my own company almost 70 hours a week, blood pressure running a little hot...now i wanted to make myself happy. I never beleieved in buying cars for "prestige" because I know unless I get a Bugatti, I'm still gonna be shown up at least once in a while.

So I had this V-12 monster for a few years. Buyer's remorse set-in almost immediately. This wasn't because it was a horrible car, but it was a horrible mass of expenses in sheer cost, fuel, insurance etc. Incidentally, the car had an immense amount of problems and lived in the shop. I got tired a few years ago and traded it in on my 2005 LS430.

In my opinion, the V12 with this immense amount of power is probably better off being used as a prestige tool rather than the performance. Although, I don't think it mattered because there were numerous S320s, S420s and S500s going around so people didn't pay attention to my badge much, and if they did...they probably thought it was a rebadge. I never really took advantage of the power after the novelty wore off (a few weeks).

Looking back, it was not a very logical purchase at all(for me).


vonbeelervonbeeler - 5/20/2009 12:29:57 PM
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I've had an 07 S600 for over two years now. The novelty has not worn off. I consider myself an enthusiast and I enjoy the massive torque which can bring a smile every time. Its still surprising that a car this big and heavy can perform so well. The car has been flawless in reliability and unlike Japanese brands I'm not required to take it in every 5000 miles for service. Its service interval is adjusted according to driving habits which has been twice in 27k miles. The biggest benefit though is that I have had a habit of trading cars a lot and now there is nothing to trade to.


M53RM53R - 5/20/2009 4:11:22 PM
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You should try driving a V12 some day. Yes you can't use the power all the time, but it's always good for it to be there.


DenaliDenali - 5/20/2009 5:22:56 PM
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<----him likes and now own an pre-owned 2006 daytona grey VW-V10


commander104commander104 - 5/20/2009 7:12:13 PM
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With the money u save buying an Accent you should have a V1 on your windshield so you don't get pulled over.


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 5/20/2009 7:36:31 PM
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1. It's America. I should be able to buy what ever engine I like.

2. Bigger engines are smoother and better balanced.

3. Ever try towing a boat with your 110 bph Hundyai.


LexxxusLexxxus - 5/20/2009 8:13:11 PM
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"I've had an 07 S600 for over two years now. The novelty has not worn off. I consider myself an enthusiast and I enjoy the massive torque which can bring a smile every time. Its still surprising that a car this big and heavy can perform so well. The car has been flawless in reliability and unlike Japanese brands I'm not required to take it in every 5000 miles for service. Its service interval is adjusted according to driving habits which has been twice in 27k miles. The biggest benefit though is that I have had a habit of trading cars a lot and now there is nothing to trade to."

Well, I've never had the pleasure of driving the current S600 but I'm sure its a completely different beast than the 1998 iteration. I never drove my cars very often but that car was in service I'd say on average every 45 days...or 100-300 miles!!!!!!!!! I found the 1998 Lexus LS400 and the 2005 LS430 to be in a different league in terms of build quality from the S-Classes of the same vintages, if somewhat behind in features (sometimes).

That being said, The 2007 S550 that I drove at the Taste of Lexus event in 2007 seemed to be similar in acceleration to my 1998 S600...the 550 seems to be a superb engine. It feels as though the LS dropping slightly in quality coupled with Mercedes making great strides in quality has resulted in a case of the lines becoming somewhat blurry. If you're picking up the tab, I'll take another 600. If I'm paying....I can't afford another right now so I'd gladly take an S550 over the current LS.

I can only imagine what the S63 or S65 is like


M53RM53R - 5/22/2009 12:32:04 PM
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I have an S63. The power is amazing.


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