Question Of The Day: Would Any Of GM's Employees Pay $250,000 To Save Your Job?

Question Of The Day: Would Any Of GM's Employees Pay $250,000 To Save Your Job?
Every so often we need to stand back from the issues at hand and regroup.

My case in point for today is the bailout of General Motors.  I challenge you to forget whatever we may have done for Chrysler in the past or present.  What works for one company doesn’t necessarily work for another.  We can’t group all of the fruit together and call them all apples.

After propping GM up with $20 billion in bailout loans the New York Times is reporting today that the federal government will conservatively need another $50 billion just to make GM through bankruptcy.

So let’s total that up real quick, and we get $70 billion in “loans” that by most accounts will never be paid back.  There simply is no way that initial $20 billion will be repaid, because it will be forgiven in bankruptcy court. There also is little doubt that any significant portion of projected $50 billion needed to maintain the company through bankruptcy will ever make back into the taxpayers hands as well.

So now take the time to step back.

If you look at Fortune Magazines Top 500 for 2008 you will find that GM employes 266,000 employees.  Certainly that figure is lower in 2009, but if you apply that number and divide it into the conservative projection of $70 Billion invested to get GM through bankruptcy.  The figure you get is over $263,000 per job saved at GM.  Now that assumes that none of these 266,000 jobless won’t find a job and will be considered unemployable. In reality almost all of these people will find other sources of income either at a competitor or somewhere else in the economy. 

Whatever happened to the notion that if one company failed the market would fill in the gaps?  You can argue that GM is too big to fail, but logic dictates that the market void will be filled by the survivors and they will benefits from GM’s missteps. Capitalism is self healing so to speak.

So I guess as we get to the bottom of the barrel we have to ask ourselves  two questions.

1.    Should we pay over a quarter of a million dollars per employee to save a sinking ship?
2.    Would these same employees spend a quarter of a million dollars to save my job?

It is all in how you look at it, I say cut our losses and let the system correct itself.

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BondMI6BondMI6 - 5/28/2009 2:13:53 PM
+8 Boost
Unfortunately in today's "Cupcake" society where everyone blames everyone else and personal responsibility is in most cases, a joke, no one from corporate giant to the wee consumer wants to endure any kind of economic pain- no matter how small. So because of this now EVERYONE it seems wants some kind of bailout. If our emotions are on edge we want a Prozac/Xanax bailout. If our kids/pets are too much we want want a Ridilin bailout (yes they make emotional control drugs for dogs now too). If we can't manage our spending we want a Chapter 7 bailout. And heaven forbid if someone wrongs us in any way (oh say hot coffee spilling on our lap) then we want a legal bailout.
The problem is not government, it's not GM and it's not OctoMom.
The problem is us. It's our society and until that changes then nothing will really change.


800over800over - 5/28/2009 2:32:22 PM
+7 Boost
Actually Octomom IS the problem....


Agent00RAgent00R - 5/28/2009 3:18:52 PM
+6 Boost
I do agree, our society has turned every individual into a victim.


800over800over - 5/28/2009 2:39:17 PM
+1 Boost
Seriously though while I agree that it is crazy to fork over 70 Billion to save a private company....the numbers of people affected by this are far more than 266 000. People who work at dealerships and parts companies are not included in these numbers. Not to mention the money those employees spend in the economy (and don't drag out of the unemployment coffers if they stay imployed). The total effects of GM folding is much more than 266000 jobless. Having said that wouldn't the 70 billion be better spent on the companies that aren't going under and letting them take parts GM that are salvageable?


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 5/29/2009 6:36:30 AM
+2 Boost
Even if the no of people to be affected were 300,000, that would still be .001 or One Tenth of 1 percent of the Population.

This "Too Big To Fail" Mantra is getting tired real quick and i cannot fathom why $70 Billion should be wasted on a company employing less than 1 Percent of the Population.


Agent00RAgent00R - 5/28/2009 3:17:44 PM
+3 Boost
009,

Unfortunately, the concept of free markets is dead.

Doesn't help when the banking system is shot, neither.


SteedPubSteedPub - 5/28/2009 3:38:13 PM
+3 Boost
What an unmitigated mess this has all become from all angles.


daveravedaverave - 5/29/2009 2:04:52 AM
+2 Boost
Utterly disgusting. An assembly line job is a job for life. Working for the union is a PAYCHEQUE for life.


Yonder7Yonder7 - 5/28/2009 7:32:58 PM
+2 Boost
Wooow , those guys works so hard that I feel sorry for them...


daveravedaverave - 5/29/2009 1:54:01 AM
-1 Boost
Great article. The last thing you do to a company with bad management and an irrelevant new vehicle pipeline is prolong the misery with billions of dollars. GM could fail right now and Ford and Chrysler still wouldn't be operating plants at even 90% capacity. When will Obama stop bailing out failing companies? I'm a Democrat but the US is not a socialist country like France or Germany. The only way you can bail out every failing company is to have 50% income taxes and 15% consumption taxes. Oh yeah, tax increases are the speeding train coming at us in a few years...


wins555wins555 - 5/29/2009 3:08:03 AM
0 Boost
These union bosses make the union look pretty bad!


XYZZXYZZ - 5/31/2009 7:18:42 AM
+1 Boost
they shoot horses, don't they?

the sick horses (GM, chrysler) shoulda been PUT OUT of their misery instead of being bailed out. this is only prolonging the suffering, and bleeding of all taxpayers.


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