Mini Sales Dip 3.8% In July - BMW Fumbles YTD Sales Lead To Lexus After Dropping 31.5%

Mini Sales Dip 3.8% In July - BMW Fumbles YTD Sales Lead To Lexus After Dropping 31.5%
The BMW Group in the U.S. (BMW and MINI combined) reported July sales of 21,253 vehicles, a decrease of 26.7 percent from the 28,977 vehicles sold in the same month of 2008. The BMW Group also reported a year-to-date sales volume of 135,701 vehicles, down 27.4 percent, compared to 186,890 vehicles sold in the first seven month of last year.

BMW Brand Sales
Sales of BMW brand vehicles decreased 31.5 percent in July for a total of 16,381 vehicles compared to 23,914 vehicles reported in the same month a year ago. Year-to-date, BMW brand sales were down 29.3 percent to 109,944 vehicles compared to 155,427 vehicles sold in the same period of 2008.

“While the mass market may have benefited from the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ initiative, BMW did not,” said Jim O’Donnell, President of BMW of North America, LLC. “Even though BMW has a highly efficient fleet and has reduced its fuel consumption more than any other manufacturer in the U.S. over the last 15 years, the price ceiling of the CARS program is a limiting factor.”

BMW Certified Pre-Owned (CPO)
Sales of BMW’s Certified Pre-Owned vehicles were up 14.5 percent, to 9,159 CPO vehicles versus 7,998 vehicles reported in July a year ago. Year-to-date, CPO sales were up 11.9 percent, to 67,140 over the 59,984 reported in the same period of 2008.

MINI Brand Sales
MINI USA reported sales of 4,872 automobiles, with minus 3.8 percent almost on par with the 5,063 cars sold in the same month of 2008. Year-to-date, MINI USA also reported sales of 25,757 automobiles, a decrease of 18.1 percent, compared to the 31,463 cars reported in the first seven months of 2008.

“While not out of the woods yet, we are witnessing a gradual recovery in the marketplace,” said Jim McDowell, Vice President of MINI USA. “We saw a significant up-tick in showroom traffic throughout the country, especially in the last week of July, with some help from the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ initiative and the Western and Central Regions exceeding July 2008 results.”


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GermanNutGermanNut - 8/3/2009 2:57:09 PM
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A 31.5% sales decline...OUCH! That is a much higher decline than even last month!

I can't wait to hear BMW's horrid results for the second quarter tomorrow. I'm predicting at least a $200 million loss...

A YTD decline of 29.5% is awful too!

No wonder Lexus took over the lead. Lexus only fell 16.5% for the month versus BMW's disastrous performance.







Agent009Agent009 - 8/3/2009 3:23:04 PM
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Lexus simply has more buyers that qualified for the Cash for Clunkers deal. Pretty simple to see when you look at the rules of the program. The sales improvements were in the ES and RX and a bit in the IS all that meet the rules easily.

The 3 Series falls on both sides of the line so makes less of an impact in such a program. This left the X3 and the 1-Series to try and carry the load, which is not going to happen.

But never the less this is significant for Lexus, in this case their pricing structure worked perfectly.


LexusKindaGuy12LexusKindaGuy12 - 8/3/2009 3:44:53 PM
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not qualifying for the CFC is not a valid excuse. only the IS250, ES, GS350 and RX qualify. and besides that, those who are trading in clunkers probably arent looking into luxury car replacements, so the program really only helps the mainstream players like toyota, ford, honda.

and also, that excuse in itself looks bad for bmw, who fail to make cars that make a combined 18 mpg. they need to step up their efficiency


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 8/3/2009 3:51:34 PM
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and to put their horrible, disastrous, sky is falling month into perspective, BMW sold more of their evil X6's last month than Audi did of every model but the A4 and Q5. They sold nine times as many 7's as Audi sold A8's last month (basically the same as Audi sold A5's, A6's, and A8's combined), and almost twice as many 7's last month as Audi has sold A8's for all of 2009. They also sold three times as many 1's as Audi sold A3's, twice as many 3's as Audi sold vehicles period, etc.

I'm not ragging on Audi here, either, I happen to like their cars and want them to be successful because it means everyone has to keep making better vehicles. My point is no one is killing the bear, including Audi, who as great as they are still dropped double digits.


david999david999 - 8/4/2009 11:28:04 AM
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Grasping at straws with the "cash for clunkers" excuse.
BMW makes great cars, but they are not known for their fuel efficiency. Toyota knows hybrids are the way to go, and diminishing BMW sales will only bear this out. More horsepower without sacrificing mpg, along with producing greater luxury vehicles will continue to enhance Lexus sales.


LexusKindaGuy12LexusKindaGuy12 - 8/3/2009 3:15:39 PM
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80% of their sale comes from the 3 series. and with all those lease incentives too


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 8/3/2009 3:30:08 PM
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"80% of their sale comes from the 3 series"

Really? I'm not a mathmetician but I'm pretty sure 8k out of 16k is not 80%, it's 50%. A quick check of Lexus sales figures reveals almost the exact same 50% of Lexus sales were the RX. Also, BMW's 50% is spread out over sedans, wagons, coupes, and convertibles, and multiple engines of each. The RX meanwhile only has two models -- normal and hybrid, that's it. Lexus is MUCH more reliant on one single model than just about EVERY other brand, including BMW. What's that saying about throwing stones and glass houses? Well I wouldn't be throwing any if I were you, because your house is awfully transparent.


LexusKindaGuy12LexusKindaGuy12 - 8/3/2009 3:41:38 PM
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you're right,i was looking at the passenger car sales.

I would like to note that while the RX sales are also close to 8 thousand, the IS and ES both sale over 4,000 units a month, which makes them key players in lexus sales. no other bmw model even comes close to the 3


Agent009Agent009 - 8/3/2009 3:51:09 PM
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LexusKindaGuy12- I wouldn't go that far. Just be glancing at it, almost everyone who had models that fell under the $45K line had better sales with those models.

Some brands where the majority of models fell below the line saw sharper increases.

Maybe someone can source some official CARS report showing who benefited the most.


sectorsector - 8/3/2009 3:53:31 PM
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“While the mass market may have benefited from the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ initiative, BMW did not,”

well duh, why would you get out of one just to buy another clunker :)


iLexusiLexus - 8/3/2009 6:35:48 PM
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lol


GermanNutGermanNut - 8/3/2009 4:05:21 PM
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Audi is not dropping double digits for July 2009 vs. July 2008. Agent009 just posts incorrect information. Audi's 14.6% drop is the YTD drop for 2009 vs. 2008 NOT the July 2009 vs. July 2008 drop.

JRob, we all know BMW's YTD decline of 29.5% is a lot worse than Audi's 14.6% YTD decline.

We also know that BMW's 31.5% sales decline for July 2009 vs. July 2008 is a lot worse than Audi's 5.8% decline for July 2009 vs. July 2008.

We know that Audi's worldwide sales drop of 9.7% is a lot better than BMW's worldwide sales drop of nearly 20%.

We also know BMW should be having smaller worldwide percentage sales declines than Audi because BMW sells more cars globally. Therefore one fewer car sold for BMW is worth a smaller percentage of the total when compared to Audi.

BMW is sucking big time and Audi is on a tear versus its competitors. There is no other way to describe Audi's amazing sales and profitability results relative to the competition.




JRobUSCJRobUSC - 8/3/2009 4:31:49 PM
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"There is no other way to describe Audi's amazing sales and profitability results relative to the competition".

Really? I'm pretty sure there is, a very easy one in fact. It's called "economies of scale", which translates into "platform and parts sharing" in the auto world. There's nothing amazing about why that has helped VW/Audi, if anything the amazing thing is how little it is helping the other brand that most directly mirrors the way they operate -- Toyota/Lexus. That's the big story, or would be if Toyota would ever release Lexus's financials.

As for Audi, right now they have an advantage BMW and Benz don't -- they get to share engines, parts, chassis components (and most importantly R&D costs for pretty much everything) between themselves, VW, Skoda, Porsche, Lamborghini, etc. Good for them, right now that's paying off and BMW and Benz may very well have to follow suit in the future. However, GM also followed this philosophy, and we all see where they are now. No one has a crystal ball here -- sleeping in your Audi-shaped car bed with Audi sheets and an Audi mobile over your bed, dreaming of eating Audi Flakes for breakfast when you get up, doesn't make you qualified to predict anything. If anything it un-qualifies you.


BMW4me4everBMW4me4ever - 8/3/2009 4:49:11 PM
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This is with BMW still not selling and building any X3's, which a year ago accounted for 1,500 sales in July. The X3 has all been phased out for the remainder of the 2009 and 2010 model, until the 2011 body style comes out. Good News is the way the 7-series is selling and the AWD version will be out this fall.

Cash for Clunker program didnt really help BMW that much since 90% of our cars dont qualify, whereas Lexus has the RX, ES, IS that do and account for 90% of the vehicles sold in the US.


mscottc1mscottc1 - 8/3/2009 8:06:00 PM
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UR correct about X3 death- very unfortunate BMW is so committed to their 7-year life cycle plan for all vehicles at all costs. While I love my X3s (I've had 3), they are certainly aging compared to the best/newest of the competition & I think it's a bad move to just darn near kill the vehicle by restricting production to insanely low levels and making sales support nonexistent. What's starting to frighten me even more: e60 death. The e60 production will be ending after September from what I'm starting to hear..... that means all the allocations out there now are all that will be in any sort of 5-ers until the all-new one comes out in late Spring. BMW relies on 5-er sales as a strong 2nd to 3-er sales volumes- I'm not sure they can afford to take that loss of volume on top of the loss of X3 volume without another unit to add extra sheer volume units..... just sayin'...


AlexTxAlexTx - 8/4/2009 3:52:30 PM
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ToJRob:
One big differene between GM and Audi.... Audi does not rebadge VW..
Look how similar some Pontiac/ Chevy/ Buicks were.
GM built shitty cars for years.. Audi does not.

This is a whole different ball game here.
Audi has its OWN platforms, and appart from the A3/ TT sharing platform with VW, that is about it; and yet the TT is still much different thanks to its A S F (Aluminum Space Frame).
Even the Q7 rides on a modified platform from the T-Reg and Cayenne.
There are less and less things in common between Audi and the rest of the group.




ItsMiItsMi - 8/6/2009 2:13:21 PM
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So what's the real deal behind the dismal sales of the X3? Didn't they sell about 3000 a month of this fine looking SAV back in 2007?


BondMI6BondMI6 - 8/3/2009 9:02:20 PM
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I'm sure BMW knew in advance this was going to be a tough year. Until the new 5,6 and 3 come out it is going to stay even tougher.......

Time to start throwing in a Mini with every purchase of 5er....lmao


pennfootballpennfootball - 8/4/2009 10:39:48 AM
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I love how all CEO's and president's are always so bullish even when they are getting pounded into the ground. Maybe no one wants a BMW anymore because everyone bought one? Subaru Sales are up...I bought a winner! My BMW and all BMW's are for losers!!


pennfootballpennfootball - 8/4/2009 10:40:23 AM
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I mean my old bme what fell apart of course...what a LEMON!


DenaliDenali - 8/4/2009 4:27:32 PM
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wow the 3-series is murdering its competition....FACT
they might be a few that drives better, looks better, @ the end of the day the benchmark DOES what it DOES best....MURDERING THE NUMBERS GAME...FACT
LMFAO @ the 3-series outsell entire lineups....FACT....LMAO


GermanNutGermanNut - 8/5/2009 2:06:52 AM
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WOW! BMW Lost $33 million Euros for the first 6 months of 2009. The low-margin, high-volume 3-series has murdered its competition and has outsold entire lineups yet BMW still loses money while Audi makes $1 billion for the first half of 2009.




DenaliDenali - 8/5/2009 8:06:13 PM
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dont mind me, im just stating the FACTS by units moved, i know what they lost, leased or whatevea the company did bad, im just singling out 1 car vs its competition...
3-series vs its competition in units moved ?
3-series vs Chrysler whole lineup ?
thats all im saying,


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