Tell The Hybrids To Pack Up And Go Home- BMW's 320d EfficientDynamics Edition - 57 MPG

57mpg, solid acceleration, and actually fun to drive -- BMW, bring it over, it'll be your best selling model.

— JRobUSC:

> 57mpg

38 mpg US (6,14 l/100km) = real life observed fuel economy of the 318d EfficientDynamics. I'll say it again: THIRTY EIGHT MPG.

Source:
http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/6-BMW/37-3er.html?fueltype=1&constyear_s=2007&constyear_e=2009&power_s=100&power_e=110

Expect similar readings from the improved more powerful 320d ED.

BMW desperate marketing people scam it up to 57 mpg US. They lie American customers by not informing them the European fuel economy vastly inflates fuel economy readings. Can someone tell me why do they have such tiny weenies?


PS. 38 mpg US is 38/1.12=34 mpg US of gasoline equivalent cause diesel requires more crude oil to make and contains more energy.

yes, the prius such an ubercar. I just wonder why no one seems to care about the prius articles...

what is that bmw sports car in silver doing among the 320d pics..what is this ??

57 mpg on the European cycle, people. Get a grip. Prius gets over 70 on that cycle. The 320d would get in the same range as the Jetta diesel here in the US, well below the Prius. Diesels have fallen further behind the latest generation of Hybrid Synergy Drive.

if my choices are 50mpg in a Prius or 40mpg in a car I'd actually have fun driving, I'll take the fun car. Sure, I might not get to join the holier than thou club of hybrid owners enjoying their scent-free farts out of brandy snifters (al la South Park's satire of Prius owners, check it out if you haven't seen it), but I'll take that trade off.

so is the ONLY reason to buy a car mileage??

does handling matter? ride? comfort? styling? technology? because the BMW beats the prius in ALL of those departments and still gets close to it in mileage.

that's a winning combination for someone who actually ENJOYS DRIVING don't you think?

You better recheck those areas:

BMW vs Prius:

handling matter? yes
ride? no
comfort? no
styling? no
technology? no

So that's Prius = 4 and BMW = 1

"Ultimate Driving Machines" may have rung some truth in the 70's and 80's compared to your grandfather's Olds and Caddis but not anymore, competition has caught up... BMW's only market now is the bagdewhore- and-clueless-new-money-immigrants market.

thetruth- read the article it gets 68.9 on the Euro cycle. 57 on the US.

68 on the Euro cycle. 57 US.

carE10:
Read again will you? It gets 68.9 miles per *Imperial* gallons on the Euro cycle, which converts into 57 miles per US gallons (on the same Euro cycle, of course).

To put it in even plainer English, it's called a *unit conversion*, not a retest in the US EPA test cycle.

— lewishamiltonpimp:

> 68 on the Euro cycle. 57 US.

It was the conversion between US and imperial gallons, dear illiterate. So you can't understand what you read and have a BMW picture in the avatar. Hmmmmmmmm.......

Just because BMW marketing throws "EfficientDynamics" in front of their low rent models, don't necessarily mean their "magic" diesel is the new black.

Somebody tell BMW it's 2009 not 1909.

you're totally right. 57mpg sucks. and who needs a car that fun to drive?! that's boring.

sector, with Mitchell gone are you taking up the spot as the community troll?

F_ck off moron before you get your face cut to ribbons

that's a hell of an appealing proposition...great dynamics and high mileage. nice job bmw!

The Prius gets rated at 3.9L/100km in the same EU cycle. Perhaps the diesels should pack up and go home according to the OP's title.

The lighter and impractical Mini Cooper D beats the 320d too with 3.91L/100km combined in the same EU cycle (which Australians use) but is handily beaten by the Prius in the following real-world test.

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/news-and-reviews/story/fuel_face-off_prius_vs_mini_d/

Toyota Prius
Economy (official): 3.9l/100km combined and urban, 3.7l/100km highway
Economy (on test): 4.5l/100km urban, averaged

Mini Cooper D
Economy (official): 3.9l/100km combined, 3.5l/100km highway, 4.7l/100km urban
Economy (on test): 5.1/100km urban, averaged

I'll take the Bimmer any day,but how are some of you guys saying it has great acceleration and performance? Did I miss numbers in the article?Excuse me if I did. I'm sure it does have good performance,but i was wondering what the actual numbers might be.

163 hp is less than the HS250h

You also get way more comfort and technology in the Lexus.

If we are talking about fuel efficient premium cars, why not?

Because in actuality, the "Toyota" embarrasses the BMW in and unexpected areas yet again.

Wow, I didn't know this site had that many people with hybrid fans... or maybe it's one person who registered several accounts. Common look at what bmw did, they managed to make a 3series get insane mileage without using heavy and expensive batteries and electric motors. Who wouldn't want to drive a fuel sipping 3 series? The prius is an eyesore whose strongest selling feature isn't its fuel economy, it is the green image attached to it. What I want to see is top gear do that bmw vs prius test again but this time use this under powered 3 series and see what numbers they get.

[edit]Wow, I didn't know this site had that many hybrid fans...[/edit]

"Who wouldn't want to drive a fuel sipping 3 series?"

I wouldn't, it's a frggin Diesel, YUCK~!

And the fact that it is a 3 series, who cares~ Boring.....
Sure it may be prettier than a Prius and handle better but it is nothing more than a econo box boner for the socially inept.

I agree, the prius is an econo box boner for the socially inept. Driving a 3 series means you care about how your car looks, not about how your car makes you look. If you are socially inept you rely on your car to make you look good. A socially inept person in a bmw shows proud and true, and they are usually listed as posers.

"If you are socially inept you rely on your car to make you look good."

Isn't that what BMW is all about for most of its buyers?

A bmw will never make anyone look good. If you are a prick it won't do anything to help your image. The prius however is all about image, you could be the most horrible person in the world, but if you drive a prius your first image is ohh look at them! they are trying to save the world! they must be good people. Even if it doesn't cross anyone's mind, that is what the average prius buyer is after.

Do you really live on this planet? I personally have 2 friends who drive exclusively BMWs because they say "a real man drives a bimmer" (they don't know each other).

Even if it doesn't cross *your* mind, that is what the average BMW buyer is after.

Well there you have it, you think your own friends are pricks because they bought bmw's, if they cared what people thought of them they wouldn't have bought them. Deboost me all you want fanboy, I can deboost you just as much.

I'm just tell the truth like it is. You can keep living in your fantasy BMW righteous world.

telling*

What is wrong with you? I am being impartial on the matter, I called this car an under powered 3 series, which it is. I said that buying one doesn't help your image, which it doesn't. My bmw fantasy world? If I was living in a bmw fantasy world then I would say troll stuff like har har driving a bmw obviously means you value quality, and all that other shit that gets flamed on these forums. I am calling it like it is, and as it lies, your "truth" seems to parallel an awful lot to a preacher going on and on about repenting sins.

— Joe_Limon:

> Common look at what bmw did, they managed to make
> a 3series get insane mileage

38 mpg US [0] (34 mpg of gas equivalent) is "insane mileage"?


> without using heavy and expensive batteries and electric motors.

1. Prius battery weight 40 kg = 90 lbs only [1]
2. This make the entire car weight 3000 lbs. only [2]
3. At the same BMW 3er 320 diesel weights 3300 lbs [3] and it offers less space than Prius.


> Who wouldn't want to drive a fuel sipping 3 series?

Who would want a slow 3 series with poor acceleration? It barely manages to be faster than the Prius III.


> [Prius] strongest selling feature isn't its fuel economy

+ cleanest exhaust emissions without any failure prone filters [4]
+ best reliability ever (won JD Power study, killing even simple gassers), with diesel smearing the floor in this aspect [5]
+ practicality and usability, with its long wheelbase making it as spacious as a midsize car
+ safety record, topping the IIHS study for lowest drivers insurance claims

Toyora Prius is simply a car intelligent and conscious people buy. Overpriced bimmers are for those who need to compensate.


> What I want to see is top gear do that bmw vs prius
> test again but this time use this under powered 3 series

Toyota Prius II: 5,21 l/100km = 45 mpg US [6]
BMW M3 E90: 13,44 l/100km = 17,5 mpg US [7]


[0] http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/6-BMW/37-3er.html?fueltype=1&constyear_s=2007&constyear_e=2009&power_s=100&power_e=110
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius#Comparison_of_models
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius#2010.E2.80.93_.28model_ZVW30.29
[3] http://www.bmw.de/de/de/newvehicles/3series/sedan/2008/allfacts/engine/technical_data.html
[4] http://adac-ecotest.awardspace.biz/
[5] http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/dependability-ratings-by-category/compact-car
[6] http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/49-Toyota/439-Prius.html?constyear_s=2004&constyear_e=2008
[7] http://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/6-BMW/37-3er.html?fueltype=2&constyear_s=2008&power_s=300

downtoearth...
90lbs is still a lot, and doesn't include the weight of the motors.

The fact that 3000lbs does nothing for this car other then help its fuel economy, you would think that being able to place all of it's weight at the bottom of the car and making it light would have helped but no, it struggles to achieve 0.72g, compared to the 320d's 0.91g you simply cannot compare it... this handling doesn't just make the bmw funner to drive. It also makes it safer as it helps you avoid accidents in the first place.

Prius3/320d
Power 134hp/265hp
0-60 9.8s/5.9s
lat-g 0.72/0.91
top speed 112mph/149mph

I'm sorry but in what way is it barely faster then a prius 3?

I give a nod of my hat towards the prius's interior space and fuel economy. But it stands against everything enjoyable about cars. It's ugly, is no to drive, and if you drive/own one there is absolutely no way you can call yourself a car enthusiast.

Sorry for the run on sentence, and I love how you compared the M3's fuel economy against a prius hahahahaha.

For this stupid comment Huu76 actually had four plus boosts? Seriously, everything this guy says is anti-European. He's a troll. I am surprised he hasn't been banned yet with STUPID COMMENTS like this.

Huu76 (moron):

"The driving dynamics characteristic of a BMW are borne out also by the car’s acceleration to 100 km/h in just 8.2 seconds and by the BMW 320d EfficientDynamics Edition accelerating in fifth gear from 80–120 km/h in 9.6 seconds. Top speed is 225 km/h or 140 mph."


Let's see a Prius do that. BMW doesn't sell this car here because most Americans are too stupid to see the point behind such a car. The only thing that sells the Prius is its green image. Toyota has done a great job marketing that car and claiming that they are such a green company while at the same time selling thousands of gas guzzling SUVs here.

"I'm not anti-European, just anti-stupidity. It just so happens most Europeans fit that criteria."


I've seen trolls get banned on this site for such comments about particular cultures. You must be really cool with the agents who run this site for them to have kept you here this long. It's almost as if you are their favorite pet (aka troll).

yuck...what's that BMW concept sports car. Eww!!!

huu76 is spot on as usual. There is a reason BMW is entering into the hybrid arena, as well as producing new vehicles more suited to the older demographics; SALES

david999-

"BMW is entering into the hybrid arena"

Well that’s a ridiculous statement: BMW has had diesel engines 15 years before Toyota marketed a hybrid car.

theoptimisticpessimist,
BMW is entering the hybrid arena WITH THEIR OWN version of hybrids.

"so what makes BMW so special"

More award winning engine and cars in the last ten years that Toyota has had in the last 40 years.

i'm curious huu...what enables BMW to charge so much for its cars? do you think it has anything to do with the product? or did the brand just drop out of the sky and people suddenly paid huge premiums for it?

really curious to hear your explanation of how premium brands become premium brands.

Why do people keep comparing a Prius with a 320d. Nobody, NOBODY, cross shops these cars. The BMW is a sport/luxury,fuel efficient sedan. The Prius is a hyper efficient, hybrid, economy car. THEy DO NOT COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER!!!.

Compare the new HS to the 320d it's a lot closer.

No contest. 320d for me.

click here if you agree that huu76 is a complete moron.

the RXh is faster then the 320d? according to what? how fast you'll fall asleep from looking at it?

so, again huu, is mileage the only reason to buy a car like this? tell me how the driving dynamics of the RXh make it a great car please. and tell me EXACTLY why the styling is attractive. and tell me who typically buys this car. as always, very curious to hear what you have to say on this.

Haha, wow you brits have it hard getting such low powered engine options.

Says the yank who's allowed to drive to at 55mph.

driving dynamics are BS? so please tell me how the RX excels at that.

and who, exactly, can't tell the difference between rear wheel and front week drive? perhaps lexus buyers?

would love to see those stats on how 'rich' people buy lexus. from everything i've read, mercedes and bmw drivers rank considerably higher in both net worth and income.

still waiting on your theory on now premium brands like BMW develop. and how they are able to charge huge premiums over brands like lexus.

does it have anything to do with the product?

so why is BMW able to charge such large premiums over lexus? how is this possible?

so why is the income of 7-series buyers higher than an LS buyer?
the 5-series buyer's income higher than the GS?
etc?

and why does BMW sell more volume--at premium prices--when you compare model to model with lexus?

Man-alive, I'm amazed at how some of you are such devotee of certain technology that you're overlooking and talking down on all other technologies. Diesel is more preferred to Europeans because diesel is cheaper in Europe. Hybrid is more popular here because diesel is more expensive here and it did a good job of selling its eco-friendliness. Notwithstanding diesel and hybrid each has its own downfall, each sells well in its respective "home" market. European car companies are making and selling more hybrid, to get the N American business, NOT necessarily because they believe hybrid is better than diesel. Japanese and US car companies are trying to make and sell diesel models in Europe (a substantial car market in its own right) to get a piece of that market, NOT because they like diesel. So you, as an individual, prefer eco-friendly image, get hybrid. If you like diesel's torque and longer lasting engine, get a diesel. After all is said and done, isn't the options available out there (albeit less diesel alternative in N America and less hybrid models in Europe) much better than 10 years ago?

Americans hate diesels. Period. And it ain't gonna start to change until gas prices are sustained around $4 per gallon. And even then, its going to hard to sell them on diesel compared to hybrid technology.

just wait till the volt and it's 350 mpg REAL WORLD (NOT) rating puts this diesel eco-wannabe in it's place.
smoke and mirrors never looked so good.
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