Are Hybrid Damaging The Environment More Than Helping It? You Decide After Reading This

Are Hybrid Damaging The Environment More Than Helping It?  You Decide After Reading This
The Prius hybrid automobile is popular for its fuel efficiency, but its electric motor and battery guzzle rare earth metals, a little-known class of elements found in a wide range of gadgets and consumer goods.
That makes Toyota's market-leading gasoline-electric hybrid car and other similar vehicles vulnerable to a supply crunch predicted by experts as China, the world's dominant rare earths producer, limits exports while global demand swells.
Worldwide demand for rare earths, covering 15 entries on the periodic table of elements, is expected to exceed supply by some 40,000 tonnes annually in several years unless major new production sources are developed. One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012.
Among the rare earths that would be most affected in a shortage is neodymium, the key component of an alloy used to make the high-power, lightweight magnets for electric motors of hybrid cars, such as the Prius, Honda Insight and Ford Focus, as well as in generators for wind turbines.
Close cousins terbium and dysprosium are added in smaller amounts to the alloy to preserve neodymium's magnetic properties at high temperatures. Yet another rare earth metal, lanthanum, is a major ingredient for hybrid car batteries.
Production of both hybrids cars and wind turbines is expected to climb sharply amid the clamor for cleaner transportation and energy alternatives that reduce dependence on fossil fuels blamed for global climate change.
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Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 8/31/2009 12:28:48 PM
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This doesn't sound like they are damaging the environment, more so running out of resources. Soon that hybrid premium will skyrocket again.


cdokecdoke - 8/31/2009 12:37:20 PM
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"Worldwide demand for rare earths...is expected to exceed supply by..."

The words "at a price" must be added for this statement to be correct. This is an often repeated mistake.


Agent009Agent009 - 8/31/2009 12:57:43 PM
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Similar to the "Dust to Dust" analysis a few years back where the Hummer was shown to be more eco-friendly than the Prius.


budfrogS4budfrogS4 - 8/31/2009 1:11:13 PM
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I wonder how independent that study was. As a diesel supporter, I hope it was accurate and independent but we all know that there are many ways to slice a cake...


rigidrigid - 8/31/2009 1:14:47 PM
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The German one was done by a third party, but was funded by the automotive industry, it was also misleading as hell, but when you applied logic to their information you could still see that the hybrids save the world is a big myth.


Mason3RobertMason3Robert - 8/31/2009 1:06:13 PM
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Yet everyone is creating Hybrid vehicles, but some are selling better than other......Get off of Toyota's nutz


rigidrigid - 8/31/2009 1:13:31 PM
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And the truth shall set you free. I agree with this article and hope this issue gets more press. Hybrid and emerging all electric vehicles are just as bad for the environment as internal combustion cars, the only difference is the hybrid rapes the earth in a factory so the owner does not have to see it when they drive everyday.


SteedPubSteedPub - 8/31/2009 2:03:25 PM
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But this environmental damage is out of sight and out of mind for the enviro-MENTAL-ists that think they are saving the world by driving hybrids. They are not SEEN belching smog or polluting and in the end that is all that matters to them.

The reality is that these hybrids, just like electric cars do nothing in the big picture to lower the end result pollution or carbon footprint for transporting individuals.

The hybrid hype is nothing more than a marketing channel for the pseudo-intellectual rubes that a trophy to their validate their bankrupt ideology.


SteedPubSteedPub - 8/31/2009 2:07:17 PM
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Correction on last paragraph.........

The hybrid hype is nothing more than a marketing channel for the pseudo-intellectual rubes that need a trophy to validate their bankrupt ideology.


rxh8me9000rxh8me9000 - 8/31/2009 3:02:13 PM
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An on going argument for a long time. This argument surely will be around for years as everyone has their own opinion. My opinion? Global warming is number one priority right now. I'm sure after a few years of experience with Hybrids,Auto makers will discover a new way to produce these needed parts.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 8/31/2009 3:12:57 PM
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http://antigreen.blogspot.com/

:) this site is what destroyed my opinion for and against climate change. In reality nobody knows what is going on.


thetruth01thetruth01 - 8/31/2009 4:51:38 PM
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here we go again, dust to dust part 2.




Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 8/31/2009 7:16:54 PM
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The 85% recovery factor is negated by the fact that far less then 100% of the prius's will be recovered, let alone at 85%


WorldofLuxuryWorldofLuxury - 8/31/2009 7:09:48 PM
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OMG... not this again. We might as well stick with Fred Flintstones' car. OH WAIT! His type of car was destroying the mountains and trees and animals. Heck we might as well stay in our little village!


hybridfarcehybridfarce - 8/31/2009 9:55:29 PM
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Imagine the sheer angst and confusion by tree huggers in California when that state’s rare earth metals mine opens. It’s not a free (or green) lunch if you want your Prius…


inspirion7inspirion7 - 8/31/2009 10:36:50 PM
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— huu76

Wow stupid North Americans can get you to respond to a stupid thread, right? How are the threads in your world, written on tablets and delivered by ferrets?


inspirion7inspirion7 - 9/2/2009 10:55:21 AM
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badgwhore

Rather than respond, as usual tossing out an insult instead of a worth while response. Look at the consistent venom that comes out in liberal responses. Tell me have you guys really seen a happy, loving and open minded liberal? The only one I can recall is, no not Al Frankin, or Barney Frank, or even Keith Oberman, (the faces of liberalism) but possibly Opra, she is makes liberalism palatable at times. The average liberal are open to their causes, but open to the opposite opinion.

They are always hating and screaming and attacking. For the future, pay attention because there is a pattern. Look at Europeans liberals and their way of handling issues, bombings and attacks from mild to extreme. Look at GreenPeace, attacks, and Peta, Code Pink, any left group can be mean as well. Liberals are very, very bitter and there isn't anything to make them happy.
I have people I know that you just can't please . Bush is out the Whitehouse, what do they want, a complete Liberal administration. The most liberal Senator becomes President and selects the second most liberal V.P. (by Senate and Congressional votes) and Obama is still too soft. No pleasing a liberal, they are like spoiled grown children having tantrums throughout their whole lives.


inspirion7inspirion7 - 9/2/2009 10:59:11 AM
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By the way, how many liberal threads that you can discuss cars or anything manly without someone dogging you out for liking a V8, or a Porsche or mentioning you like Spike TV? Thought so, just want to point that out. Liberalism comes with a price, that price is you freedom. Freedom to express what you think, feel or do. The larger the government and liberalism, the smaller the person, remember that.


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