Bold Or Dumb Move? Toyota Ditches Mid Life Refreshes To Cut Costs

Bold Or Dumb Move? Toyota Ditches Mid Life Refreshes To Cut Costs
New models are the lifeblood of most any brand.  Just look at the sales figures for those that have aging lineups and you are almost guaranteed to see negative sales figure.  Conversely, those with with newer models are reaping the rewards of their investments, typically with positive sales or at the very least holding their own. 

So it came as some surprise that Automotive News is reporting today that Toyota has decided to cease all mid cycle refreshes as a cost cutting measure.

That means items such as grilles, headlamps, bumpers and interior colors will most likely cease to appear as a model ages.  Basically this means a 5 to 6 year run on a model may actually go without any changes. 

"So is that Camry a 2009, 2010, 2011, or even a 2012 you have there?"

Add to this fact that Toyota typically takes two to three years longer than many counterparts to refresh existing models, and we may have a recipe for disaster or brilliance. While admittedly expensive, this minor changes keep  many models current until the next major revision and serve as a definition what model year is what at a glance. 

By reducing minor face lifts Toyota is now banking on the original designs to be right on target with little chance of revision.  Is this an added risk? Of course, But looking at the current revisions of Lexus and Toyota models right now, I bet most of us would be hard pressed to tell any differences between the model years anyway.

So is this a bold move, or one that is destine to backfire?


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enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 11/2/2009 11:53:14 AM
+7 Boost
stop the boring.


WhelanWhelan - 11/2/2009 11:56:38 AM
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I say dumb. Ford did refreshes recently and they posted a good profit this past quarter without government bailouts and loans. C4C aside which affected dealers more than anything (as product was already in the lots to sell backed up). Goes to show you that government interference does not spark economies.

That aside, stupid move for Toyota, now they don't have the chance to make the dull even duller, change red taillamps to clear. Maybe this will give them more saved $$$ to put more fun into their cars and less braindead design.


tundrahqtundrahq - 11/2/2009 3:20:23 PM
+4 Boost
Agreed. Toyota is in crisis mode...I think they're over-reacting across the board.


dlindlin - 11/2/2009 3:29:44 PM
+1 Boost
Without government bailouts and loans? Yeah right, with everyon'e tax money, unless you didn't pay.


g2okg2ok - 11/2/2009 12:06:46 PM
+4 Boost
Bad move for the Big T = Epic Fail.
They need to fire that Toyoda favorite-son.


thstonethstone - 11/2/2009 12:24:43 PM
+1 Boost
Good move. The people who were going to buy a Toyota will still buy a Toyota.

Their lineup is in pretty good shape anyway - the Prius is brand new, the Venza is still new, and the Matrix and the Camry still look fine. The low point in the lineup is the Avalon but people in their 70's aren't looking for anything inspiring anyway.


WhelanWhelan - 11/2/2009 2:01:38 PM
+4 Boost
The Matrix is underpowered and for the cost of the premium so-called performance model you can get a Mazdaspeed 3 or WRX or GTI. A heavier car with a Scion tC engine vs. an over 250hp (MS3) hatch with a 6 speed, leather, Navi, HIDs, 18" wheels, loaded out the door for the same price or less. They lost that battle. Only advantage is low cost AWD.




AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 11/2/2009 12:58:01 PM
+5 Boost
C'mon, we're talking about people who buy and drive Toyotas...
Do the math....


Mason3RobertMason3Robert - 11/2/2009 1:10:17 PM
-2 Boost
You can always tell when Agent 009 posts something...anyway

The current refresh for model year 2010 is actually nice...The LED lights with their shape is impressive and the addition of push start to the SE is also ideal. Not a huge fan of the front, I guess it has to grow on me but I love the new SE 17" wheels.....

Why is Camry still #1? I think they know how to do their jobs a little....These posts lack any type of solid information...its probably a little slow due to the economy, I understand...

Can you keep Toyota of Lexus out of your mouth for a week? Maybe, but you'll just get on Scion, Crown, etc....kinda sad that you are a shameless "Hater"


_43LE_43LE - 11/2/2009 1:38:59 PM
0 Boost
I'm sure that Toyota has done their marketing research and in the end they are saving money.


lexusrox123lexusrox123 - 11/2/2009 2:51:04 PM
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toyota has been around for years and have been successful, so I dont think toyota would do anything dumb. Also, this news post is misleading in that it shows a Camry BEFORE they did the mid cycle change, thus making it seem like nothing will be done on it. Right now, Toyota doesnt really need any midcycle changes after the changes they already made.


rigidrigid - 11/3/2009 10:45:40 AM
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So I guess the whole lineup will not get the update to full carbon due to the LA-F sharing technology? This is actually a brilliant move nobody buys a Toyota based on looks anyway.


91z4me91z4me - 11/3/2009 6:58:19 PM
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I think GM also ditched MCEs (Mid Cycle Enhancements) when they were on top. Cost saving measures don't increase sales, they just decrease short term costs. Long term, this will hurt them.


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