VW Moves Past Toyota And GM To Claim Largest Global Automaker Spot - Is It 2018 Already?

VW Moves Past Toyota And GM To Claim Largest Global Automaker Spot -  Is It 2018 Already?
Well, it was quicker and much earlier than expected, and many laughed at the thought when Volkswagen announced that wanted to be the number 1 car maker globally.  Big talk from the typically arrogant Germans, right?

VW intially predicted they would over take Toyota by 2018, but latest research shows by Germany's Spiegel and Reuters are indicating they may have already achieved that with 4.4 million cars sold so far in 2009.  In contrast Toyota has sold only 4 million and GM tally is  3.6 million for the same time period.

So is this a blip, or the new world order?


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OBSERVER1984OBSERVER1984 - 11/5/2009 5:43:02 PM
+1 Boost
VW, Skoda, SEAT, Audi, Porsche, Bugatti, Bentley, Lamborghini - all of them except Bugatti have more and more sales each year. One of the best-selling brands in China. I'm not surprised!


WazzWazz - 11/6/2009 5:49:55 AM
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Um...well Toyota owns Lexus does it not? Toyota is not just one brand. These sales are included when looking at most vehicles sold.


AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 11/5/2009 6:42:00 PM
+2 Boost
VW, now too big to fail..


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 11/5/2009 6:59:14 PM
+5 Boost
Hmmm they must be very strong internationally because new vw products around here are a rare sight.


ghosthunterghosthunter - 11/5/2009 8:11:41 PM
-3 Boost
really not a surprise when they are still selling 30 years old passat B1.


shabarushabaru - 11/5/2009 8:10:58 PM
+1 Boost
PASSED TOYOTA????.... not bad man.. not bad at all


pushrod27pushrod27 - 11/5/2009 8:51:39 PM
+5 Boost
I hate you so much. I'm glad you are on the internet, because if I really knew a person as stupid and annoying as you, I could not fight the urge to murder such an individual.


kablaamkablaam - 11/5/2009 10:23:07 PM
+5 Boost
"I hate you so much".

lol


800over800over - 11/6/2009 10:00:38 AM
+6 Boost
I think you mistake anti "Hyundaismoke" feelings for anti Hyundai feelings. We just don't like you.


JUGNUJUGNU - 11/6/2009 5:49:02 AM
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Toyota should not care. Just work on quality and reliability which is still above most but down according to Toyota's standards. They will be Number 1 again in no time.

JUGNU


rigidrigid - 11/6/2009 8:07:33 AM
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Yep work on those rusting truck frames and evil floormats. Ohh wait they spent all those development dollars on the LAF psudo-supercar. Distraction is the only thing that brings these companies down. Big 3 got distracted by small cars from Japan chased the market and paid for it. Next Toyota took the top spot and quickly developed all kinds of reliability issues and started chasing Ferrari. VW please just stick to your guns and you will be fine. Honestly Toyota needs to stick to the GE business plan build appliances and build them well, do not worry about flair people like your products because they lack flair and have reliability. If you take away reliability nobody will want anything you make.


Agent009Agent009 - 11/6/2009 11:26:19 AM
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For now it is a blip. Toyota is strong in North America so when that market recovers then they will gain sales. But with VW being far stronger in China, the lead can extend as China continues to pile on the sales.

It is all about exposure, both good and bad.


XYZZXYZZ - 11/7/2009 3:31:00 AM
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another factor is that americans LIKE quality and reliability, while chinese automotive newbies will BUY ANYTHING that's cheap, even if unreliable.

further, in america AND the rest of the world, if things are tight and you're not sure if you'll still have a job next year, you'll likely hang on to your present car. ONLY IF it's virtually falling apart and is costing too much to maintain, would you trade for a new car ANYWAY.

toyota owners universally have the OPTION of hanging on until there's better times. owners of old vws are the 'forced to trade' types.


wins555wins555 - 11/7/2009 9:39:22 PM
+3 Boost
VW is the next GM


nvmenvme - 11/9/2009 1:38:20 AM
+1 Boost
Are you crying?! Please don't cry!


nvmenvme - 11/9/2009 1:39:53 AM
+1 Boost
that was @ hundaismoke



truckmantruckman - 11/9/2009 4:47:34 AM
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How can the 2nd most unreliable car overtake Toyota? How many TDI's can they sell? With gas prices and the mileage that the diesels are getting Toyota better make something to compete or they will fall behind VW.


XYZZXYZZ - 11/10/2009 4:41:03 AM
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i think huu76 got the right impression.

it's not so much the vw group blasting past toyota in sales, but the DROP in sales globally has hit toyota more dramatically. so it is TOYOTA passing vw, going DOWN the chart. not surprising, since a big part of vw sales are in china. where the relatively unsophisticated buyers DON'T KNOW about unreliable vws.


XYZZXYZZ - 11/10/2009 4:49:39 AM
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this effect was dramatically shown on a chart in the current Economist magazine. with the drop in u.s. car sales, the u.s. market just passed china's, GOING DOWN while chinese sales are still climbing.

i guess this means that china is the #1 market for new car sales now, altho' i don't remember seeing that in the general news.


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