First Official Lexus LF-A Commercial Hits The Airwaves- WHAT A Sound!!!!!

That car is incredibly ugly, I can't find anything I like about the design. The engine sound is too high pitched as well.

Where are you from? Doucheland? (Not to be confused with Deutschland...)

A beautiful sound from a beautiful machine indeed.

beautiful? are you blind?

the best new supercar. i can't wait for the comparisons to the 458, the McLaren, the SLS, and Lamborghini's

SLS is ugly and retard-like. Lambo is simply dated origami. Mclaren is too mainstream taste. Ferrari is original and this kind of beauty from the future. Lexus shares the same ambition, but can use some more refinement. I like its GUNDAM face especially, very original.

For some reason I see ferraris as being more reliable than the lfa... I mean when you step back and look at it. Which company has more experience with carbon fiber, high revving naturally aspirated many cylinder engines. And supercars in general? One might think that after decades of making them they would have a better idea of what to and not to do. But hey, if Lexus is good at making economy luxury cars reliable some of that should transfer over right? Hmmm...

CF is too low tech to mention.
HONDA and MAZDA has been known for SMOOTH 9000 rpm engine while no production Porsche or Lambo can. Does that necessarily mean the former knows better about making high-rev engine and reliability? Well, maybe then......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline - LFA's limiter is in fact @ 9500.

honda is THE KING when it comes to high revving, high specific output engines. starting from their motorcycle racing engines, on up thru the engines they developed for F1, CART, IndyCar. (it was beneath them to follow toyota to nascar and pushrods, altho' there's no doubt they could've if they wanted to.)

more than a few honda engines would rev to the 19,000 to 20,000+ range.

it is also a tribute to toyota that with far less racing experience, they have met honda as an equal on several of those racing venues.

and of course, toyota trucks with ironman stewart OWN off road racing. did so even when toyota 4s and v6s were up against v8s from other brands.

Doesn't really matter, the are all spoken for and the 500 cars that are being built are all getting leased out for 2 year term. Beautiful vehicle that is really just to show what Lexus can, should and will be doing !!!

"The Lexus drives and sounds better and is more reliable than all of those you've mentioned, but it's also uglier than all of them too."

Why would you make the presumption that the guy is more reliable then other supercars, Toyota corp.'s gas pedal issues lately should give you pause in regards to making a sweeping statement.

gas pedals were shortened because NO mechanical problem could be detected which mite've caused unintended acceleration.

that was just a sop to reply to the idiots who could not control their floormats AND were too dumb to shift to N.

did AUDI ever uncover a cause for their similar "problem?" did they even TRY to do anything in response?

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Is it just me or does it sound a lot like this sub $7000 bike?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOS_8Z60pBg&feature=related

Albeit the bike sounds as if its engine revs twice as high (which it does)

A $13,000 Ducati @ 11000 rpm doesn't sound better. So? Car is car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWZlasTVoco&feature=related

So I'm not sure why people have their panties in a bunch over the sound. When I hear it I think quarter liter sport bike, not super car. I much prefer angry Ferrari scream.

The sound is definitely amazing. Also, comparing it to any high-end high revving bike, especially a Ducati, is really twice the compliment.

I don't get it, it doesn't sound like the high end ducati, it sounds like the low end honda.

joe lemon: "When I hear it I think quarter liter sport bike, not super car. "


LMAO!!! still proving what an automotive IDIOT you are! the only qurter liter sport bike has all of TWO cylinders (Ninja 250) although it does rev to 15,000 rpm.

LOL XYZZ fail, maybe you should stop spending your time insulting me and start checking your sources. For example, if you would have went to the link I provided you would have learned of the existence of the Honda CBR 250RR and learn that it revs to 20,000rpm. It is a tiny yet pretty cool 4 cylinder sport bike that is hella cheap.

CBR 250RR is NOT OFFERED in the american market, so i would not have heard of it.

Once again, I just posted a link to it lol.

and btw, i only insult you IN RESPONSE to the many disparaging remarks YOU tend to make, often totally unwarranted.

Yes, but to attack me so vehemently over my personal opinions is quite childish. You should know that everyone has a different opinions from you by now. To insult someone for thinking about things different is... once again childish.

so maybe i do NOT always mindlessly open links?

"Albeit the bike sounds as if its engine revs twice as high (which it does)."

such A BRIALLIANT remark! as if anyone expects a 250 cc engine NOT to rev a lot higher than a 5000 cc engine.

I was comparing the sound, and yet again you are insulting me?

and it is not a childish "opinion" for you to call "the Honda CBR 250RR [that] revs to 20,000rpm" honda's "low end bike?"

LOL! OBVIOUSLY your seriously SLANTED 'opinions' are ALL denigrating of SUPERIOR ASIAN PRODUCTS.

It is one of Honda's entry level bikes, therefore it is their low end bike. I am not insulting honda, it's like me saying the Aveo is Chevy's low end car, the Yaris is Toyota's low end car and the Boxster is Porsches low end car. Seriously, relax, I think you try to find insults in my comments. And my opinion is that all the major mass production manufacturers are all relatively equal. I know you have a hard on for jap cars so it's hard to see them without your pink coloured sunglasses on. This being said, if any other mass production company tried making a LFA style car from scratch with absolutely no experience going into it before hand I would be skeptical.

a four-cylinder 250 is HARDLY a low end honda, when they also offer SINGLE cylinder 250s, 125s, and (in other markets) even 90s and 50cc machines.

lemon man--
"I don't get it, it doesn't sound like the high end ducati, it sounds like the low end honda."

yet the so-called "low end honda" has TWICE the cylinder count of the "high end ducati!"

jo jo, your PANTY, er, i mean BIAS is showing!

Dude, if I import the cbr 250rr, will you trade me a brand new ducati for it then?

I'm going to admit this is the first lexus that has really impressed me..i never thought i would see the day..the LFA may not be the best looking car, nor does it have the soul and pedigree of a Ferrari or Mclaren, but this is undoubtedly going to be one amazing car. I never thought i would say this but...kudos to Lexus

Soul and pedigree come with time and experience otherwise we'd all be creaming our pants every time an automaker released cars like the Mitsuoka Orochi.

I'm not sure if McLaren got a soul. It's like those Germans, very surgical, and sterile. Lexus is trying to position in between, but I guess will still be toward the latter.

Since they'll only have 500 of this car made, they should've made it right and kept it just like the concept. The front of the car is just ugly, they screwed up the rear lights too, two things are nice about it, the interior and the engine sound. But, the LFA will lose when compared against other super cars in the $400k range.

As I said, it draws inspiration from traditional armor mask, and probably even GUNDAM cartoon.

http://www.art-of-the-samurai.com/samurai_armor_yoroi/juyoyoroi.jpg
http://www.closetanimeotaku.org/Q4_2008/gundam00.jpg

I got serious news for you designer1, the LFA will trump the competion. Most of them will get smoked on the track not to mention the attention it will bring to those Lexus selects to lease this thing.

What again is its competition? I keep wanting to compare it to the F458 and mp4 12c but have to keep reminding myself it's not a super car. I think it competes more with the 599 gtb am I right?

The new Porsche Turbo does 0-62 mph in 3.2 seconds - factory claim. Once Car and Driver gets their hands on it I'll wager they'll get it down to 3.0 seconds flat. The LF-A can suck on that, fanboy.

Joe

It's front engined so why comparing it to mid engine 458 and mp4-12C. 599 GTB and Aston DBS like Super cars are it's direct rivals but will have to wait and see how it does against 458 and Mclaren.

BTW AutoCar magazine said LFA is faster and they liked it more than the 599 GTB HGTE package which cost exactly the same at 375K.

JUGNU

The reason why I asked is because the 599 isn't a true supercar, with its focus on luxury in addition to performance it becomes more of a luxury sports car than a super car. If you do compare the LFA to actual super cars like the f458 and mp4 12c, spec for spec the LFA fails. It's far more comparable to the Corvette ZR1 or Viper levels of performance given that it weighs in at a whopping 3263lbs and has a mere 354 lb-ft of torque to motivate all that weight.

no joe, the reason you asked is because you have a malfuntioning, DISTORTED 'logic engine' in your head and you CONCOCT all kinds of weird juxtapositions and/or totally irrelevant comparisons.

go back to the "honda dvd driving lessons" thread for more examples of my poking gaping holes in your lame logic.

just one excerpt: "in any case, what is so great about minimizing them? if i adopted YOUR questionable debate tactics, i could say your style of driving would result in CRASHES at EVERY INTERSECTION.

"there is a NECESSITY of changing changing velocities in continually VARIABLE traffic conditions."

and as for being aware of one's opinions differing from most others, i am sure YOU HAVE FAR MORE experience of that.

or are you not noticing how many DEBOOSTS you are getting? and you must be the ONLY person deboosting many of my comments, which go from +1 to 0, but NO LOWER.

Just because you either have multiple accounts or a Toyota fanboy club means I have distorted logic? Get your head out of your ass. Anything that gets posted on this site that isn't pro toylex instantly gets a couple deboosts.

Joe,

That's exactly what it means. Everyone that disagrees with you is not conspiring against your "infallible" logic. You are just wrong.

I'm sorry anthony, but how long has it been since you have praised something that wasn't toylex? Like I said there are a lot of fanboys on this website, because I don't agree with them is a horrible basis to conclude that I have "infallible" logic. If you really want to prove my logic infallible simply prove me wrong. Does the LFA not sound like a sub $7000 bike?

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Wow. I can't believe I found you to be a rational person at one point. The burden of proof is not on me to prove something that is your opinion. If reasoning works that way, then so be it. You sound like a retard. Now prove me wrong.

well joe lemon, when you prefer lemon cars and bikes over products by the mfgr who produces THE LEAST to NO lemons, and beyond that go out of your way to always disparage toyotas and lexi, you DO HAVE FAULTY logic. alleged 'boredom' is not even an issue.

you ARE simply a biased, ignorant, dufus. and others besides me have NO trouble recognizing that and calling you on it.

It would have looked nice if they would have kept the concept's headlights.

It's funny how Toyota tries to capitalize on the race version of the LF-A. We all know the car was running in 180th position and ends up "burning on the ring".

Gotta take that car for what it is, a huge publicity stunt intented to help get rid of Lexus "old man's car" image.

They need to sell it for a huge amount of money, well above the competition because it's just not profitable. How come the competition can make equal or better machines, sells them way cheaper and still manage to make profits out of it ?

Nice car, but to say it's best thing since sliced bread and that it's going to smoke all other cars between 200k and 400k is not true.

Sounds like a bike like a few of you said. There is nothing wrong with that at all, its just the truth. Either that or I have an excellent PC sound system.

I think it sounds similar to an F1 car. I like the sound alot, and although the exterior design is starting to grow on me, you certainly wouldn't want to spend $400k on a car that's "growing on you".

I've heard that soundtrack before, I think when Rodan attacked Mothra, and then the rubber faced Godzilla came and saved Tokyo.

Ya gotta hand it to the Japanese designers, between the GTR and LFA they really show how beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I like the design of this. Props to Lexus, although they can't seem to build a production car that is remotely interesting to own. DON'T ASSUME THIS WILL BE RELIABLE- NISSAN GT-R ISN'T, WHY WOULD THIS BE? It's a ultra high perforance car, not a commuter.

when infiniti/nissan was more reliable than toyota/lexus? Back in the good old days and now. For starters the Camry vs Altima.Check JD power and consumer report or any car analysis.And also in fuel effiecency in non hybrid..And the others are yet to come.If you look quite closely do you realize that most of toyota engines are dual vvti, nissan is just has three namely the 3.5 use in the maxima only and the 3.7 and the new 5.6 v8.And not top mention the great hyundai kicking there ass in fuel effeicency in non hybrid and nissan will be next.

I`ve grown to really like this car. The sound caught my attention first and the looks slowly grew on me. The only thing that hasn`t settled in well is the hefty price tag. I know it`s a product showcasing by Lexus more than anything but when your nearest priced Lexus is that much off Toyota is lucky only a limited number is made. It will be a brand defining car for Toyota-Lexus. Hopefully it will bring life to the Toyo-Lexus lineup and perhaps a revitalized Supra. I see good things to come from them in the future, hopefully more studs than duds. That price tag needs to be lowered. Price doesn`t always mean prestige but the drivers will be happy. The sound alone probably cost 100K extra!

years and years of blather. just MAKE THE DAMN CAR. the only headline that ever needs to come out about this car is when the FIRST PRODUCTION MODEL HITS THE STREETS.

It is on the way my friend. Be patient and you may get lucky enough to hear the howl from a Lexus? who would have thought? Anyways it's an engineering showcase and it's expected to be good. Price tag is too high like I said. There are other more prestigious cars out there for the money that are priced even lower than the LF-A such as: F430, Gallardo, SLS AMG, Porsche GT2 and the likes, all great cars.

All arguments aside, any guy or girl who has the chance to own those cars should feel very privileged. The hatred between the fanboys only occur because these cars are so good people nitpick. But that's why we are car fans. Wouldn't mind either but favor one or the other based on subjective opinions and views.

Without cars to argue about what else is there to do for men? LOL

"Also,whoever said that Honda is the King of high revving car engines, it should be noted that Ferrari and BMW would dispute that."

that was me. and if i recall correctly, when honda was in F1 earlier, they had engines that would rev up to the 16-18,000 rpm range.

and they STILL make engines that can do that, except they're motorcycle engines. which even go up to 20k.

until bmw FINALLY decided to make MODERN bikes, they were outclassed when honda made their FIRST dohc bikes, which was like, FORTY YEARS ago.