Do YOU Know All About Electric Vehicles OR Do YOU Just Know The Myths?

Do YOU Know All About Electric Vehicles OR Do YOU Just Know The Myths?
Soon enough it seems that all that will be available to drive will be electric vehicles. With governments across the globe embracing electric vehicles, and pushing for innovation and product development, the days of the gasoline-powered automobile look numbered.

But, are EVs so bad?

According to Plug In America, they are not. Granted, they may be slightly biased.

Take a look below and scan through the top 12 myths about EVs. Do YOU think these myths are fact or fiction?

Let us know, SPIES!

Press release follows:

Plug In America, a nonprofit group leading the clean-vehicle movement, is issuing the following list of common misconceptions or “myths” about all-electric and plug-in hybrid electric cars. Media and others continue to misunderstand and mischaracterize this new technology. Thousands of these clean vehicles—many of them zero-emission—are expected to start coming to auto dealerships in late 2010. See Plug In America’s Tracker for a comprehensive list of such vehicles on the road today and expected for delivery in 2010 and beyond.

 

Acronyms and definitions:

·         EV: Electric Vehicle, meaning all-electric (no gas)

·         BEV: Battery Electric Vehicle or all-electric vehicle

·         PHEV: Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle

·         Plug-in or Plug-in electric vehicle: Either a BEV or a PHEV

 

Number of EVs Driven Today:

Plug In America estimates that there are 3,000 highway-capable EVs from major automakers on U.S. roads today:

·         800 Toyota RAV4-EVs

·         1,000 Teslas

·         150 Ford Ranger trucks

·         50 Chevy S-10 trucks

·         500 test-only BMW Mini Es

·         500 others including Solectrias and EPIC Mini-Vans 

  1. MYTH: EVs don't have enough range. You'll be stranded when you run out of electricity

FACT: Americans drive an average of 40 miles per day, according to the U.S. Dept. of Transportation. Most new BEVs have a range of at least double that and can be charged at any ordinary electrical outlet (120V) or publicly accessible station with a faster charger. The latter, already in use, will proliferate as the plug-in infrastructure is built out. At present, all it takes is planning for EV owners, who can travel up to 120 miles on a single charge, to use their cars on heavy travel days. Alternatively, a PHEV goes at least 300 miles on a combination of electricity and gasoline.

 

  1. Myth: EVs are good for short city trips only

FACT: Consumers have owned and driven EVs for seven years or more and regularly use them for trips of up to 120 miles.  

  

  1. MYTH: EVs just replace the tailpipe with a smokestack

FACT: Even today, with 52% of U.S. electricity generated by coal-fired power plants, plug-in cars reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and most other pollutants compared with conventional gas or hybrid vehicles. Plug-ins can run on renewable electricity from sources such as the sun or wind. PHEVs will reduce greenhouse gases and other emissions, even if the source of electricity is mostly coal, a 2007 study by the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) and NRDC showed. Read the summary of some 30 studies, analyses and presentations on this topic.

  

  1. MYTH: The charging infrastructure must be built before people will adopt EVs

FACT: Most charging will be done at home, so a public charging infrastructure isn’t a prerequisite. Still, a robust infrastructure will help, especially for apartment dwellers and those regularly driving long distances. But at least seven companies are competing to dominate the public-charging-station market and a trade group representing the nation's electric utilities has pledged to “aggressively” create the infrastructure to support “full-scale commercialization and deployment” of plug-ins. 

  1. MYTH: The grid will crash if millions of plug-ins charge at once

FACT: Off-peak electricity production and transmission capacity could fuel the daily commutes of 73% percent of all cars, light trucks, SUVs and vans on the road today if they were PHEVs, a 2007 study by Pacific Northwest National Laboratory found. Also, utilities are upgrading some local distribution systems to accommodate plug-ins, just as they do when residents add more air conditioners and TVs. Plug-ins, which can be seen as energy storage devices on wheels, can actually benefit the grid, making green energies like solar and wind power even more viable. 

  

  1. MYTH: Battery chemicals are bad for the environment and can't be recycled

FACT: Ninety-nine percent of batteries in conventional cars are recycled, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. The metals in newer batteries are more valuable and recycling programs are already being developed for them. Utilities plan to use batteries for energy storage once they are no longer viable in a vehicle.

  

  1. MYTH: EVs take too long to charge

FACT: The most convenient place and time to charge is at home while you sleep. Even using the slowest 120-volt outlet, the car can be left to charge overnight, producing about 40 miles of range. Most new BEVs and PHEVs will charge from 240-volt outlets providing double or triple the charge in the same amount of time. Charging stations that reduce charging time even more are beginning to appear.       

  

  1. MYTH: Plug-ins are too expensive for market penetration

FACT: New technologies are typically costly. Remember when cell phones and DVDs were introduced? Also, the government stimulus package includes a $2,500 to $7,500 tax credit for EVs and PHEVs. Some states are considering additional incentives ($5,000 in California and Texas). And, the purchase and lifetime operating cost of an EV is on par with or less than its gas-powered equivalent because EVs require almost no maintenance or repair: no oil or filter changes, no tune ups, no smog checks. 

  

  1. MYTH: Batteries will cost $15,000 to replace after only a few years

FACT: The battery is the priciest part of a plug-in, but costs will drop as production increases and the auto industry is expected to be purchasing up to $25 billion in advanced batteries annually by 2015. Some car makers plan to lease their batteries, so replacement won’t be an issue. The Chevy Volt PHEV will have a 10-year battery warranty that would cover battery replacement.

 

  1. MYTH: There isn't enough lithium in the world to make all the new batteries

FACT: Even in a worst-case scenario of zero battery recycling, aggressive EV sales, no new mining methods or sites, existing lithium stores will be sufficient for projected EV production for the next 75 years. See an analysis at PlugInAmerica.org. Also, lithium comes from many countries (24% is found in the United States), so we won’t be dependent on any one global region. 

  1. MYTH: Lithium batteries are dangerous and can explode

FACT: Among the many kinds of lithium-ion batteries, lithium-cobalt batteries found in consumer electronics can pose a fire risk in certain circumstances. These risks can be mitigated by the use of advanced-battery management systems and careful design that prevents “thermal runaway.” Most plug-in vehicle makers are working with other battery types (such as lithium-iron-phosphate and lithium-manganese) which have inherent safety advantages and provide more years of service.

  1. MYTH: Most of us will still be driving gas cars through 2050

FACT: Several irrefutable factors are driving the shift from gasoline to plug-in vehicles: ever-toughening federal fuel economy standards and state caps on greenhouse gas emissions; projected price hikes for petroleum products as demand increases and supply flattens or drops; broad agreement over the need for America to reduce its reliance on petroleum for economic and national security reasons; and climate change, which is occurring faster than previously thought, according to the journal Science and many other sources.



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topneurotopneuro - 12/24/2009 4:09:22 PM
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Nicely done.


tangotango - 12/24/2009 9:12:11 PM
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I wrote a paper recently on Hybrids and I must say that I was actually surprised by how many myths I actually fell victim to. The case about Lithium in particular. None of the major hybrids at present use lithium at all. And based on what I was reading, there are plans afoot to find more efficient methods than lithium. So perhaps as time goes by another more renewable source for batteries will be found. That said, I'm a diesel and butanol fan. Yeah...you read correct...butanol to replace gasoline. Do some reading, and you'll understand why...


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/24/2009 9:53:33 PM
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butanol? I'd say methanol. Methanol can replace oil in all the manufacturing. As far as transportation- private should be electric and heavy (trains, semis) should be hybrid (methanol/electric)


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/24/2009 9:55:17 PM
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This is very good to see, though it is a bit too late for USA. USA will have to go through another major economic collapse in the next 10-15 years because we did not start moving towards this soon enough. USA is built on cheap oil, and cheap oil is about to run out very very soon.

But it is great to see that we are doing something and moving in the right direction. Oil was 19-20th century. Time to move on to better things:)


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/25/2009 8:40:00 AM
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LOL fox news? of course I don't watch them.

Plenty of cheap oil left? haha I'll be laughing my ass of 5-10 years from now when USA (consuming 25% of all worldwide oil) will hit the wall of peak oil like a concrete wall.

I also can't wait till Chinese BYD starts selling the E6 in USA next year. Noname start up Chinese company beating up GM and all the other giants with an affordable electric car? Priceless: )


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/25/2009 10:13:22 AM
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Peak oil is a myth created to artificially fatten the oil companies pay cheques.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/25/2009 11:32:02 AM
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seriously man, no offese, it's christmas and all, but are you retarded? a myth?? how can a resource, that is finite, reaching its peak be a myth?

and it is already proven that OPEC has been lying about how much oil they have left- saying they have 50-100% more than they do to increase production (they can produce a percentage of their supply).

many experts believe there is way less than most people think.

People back in 1950s in USA thought peak oil for USA would never come. They laughed at the idea. Well, it did come, back in 1972.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/25/2009 12:18:42 PM
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Let me rephrase my statement, peak oil in the next 100 years is a myth. 66% of the worlds oil reserves still lies untapped between Venezuela and the Athabasca region of northern Alberta and Saskatchewan in Canada.


veyron1001veyron1001 - 12/26/2009 12:07:35 AM
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DinamoR you lost all credibility when you mentioned experts.


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/26/2009 10:18:30 PM
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that's funny...let's make a bet genius when cheap oil will run out. next 100 years? LMAO!! keep living in your fantasy world


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/26/2009 10:20:38 PM
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Alberta Canada? The fact that we're getting oil from sand pretty much should tell you where we are at this point.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/27/2009 12:00:35 PM
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LOL the 66% of the oil in the world found in oil sands still aren't viable yet because there is still far too much of that other 33% left that is easy to get at.


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/27/2009 6:40:00 PM
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LOL right right I guess that's why even clown bob putz just said that the auto industry cannot rely on oil anymore...because we still have 100 years of cheap oil left

LMAO

We got 10 years left maximum. Maybe even only 5 years. Starting 2015 there will be no more cheap oil. And electric cars will become the norm


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/27/2009 9:29:11 PM
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LOL lutz needs to start supporting this facade otherwise his volt won't sell. Alright, I hope you keep posting on this site so in 5 year, and even ten years time I can keep laughing at you.


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/28/2009 1:26:06 AM
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why would he make the volt if we still have 100 years of oil left?

Even Bob Putz sees the writing on the wall: the auto companies that won't have electric cars 10 years from now will go bankrupt.

And Putz/GM have been the ultimate sell outs to Big Oil. You think he would turn on them for no reason?

Come back in 2015 so I can laugh at you


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/28/2009 3:25:00 AM
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"why would he make the volt if we still have 100 years of oil left? "

Without the Volt mindless drones such as yourself would never buy a gm product again. It's the same reason why people think they are getting eco friendly cars no matter which toyota they buy because Toyota has the prius, and therefore they think everything, including their trucks and suv's are fuel efficient... or at least better for the environment than the competition.

Lutz never wanted the Volt project in the first place, but he has been forced to promote it because his job and his company depend on it.


DinamoRDinamoR - 12/28/2009 5:18:36 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah right 5 years ago GM did everything it could to kill any fuel efficiency measure, invested $1 billion into Hummer, and mindless drones were buying them like hot cakes.

Then summer 2008 came along, and GM went bankrupt.

and i'm supposed to believe they all of a sudden are betting their whole future on the Volt people of me? (even though there are 100 years of cheap oil left)

LMAO HAHAHAHA keep living with your head up your ass

The reason GM is building the volt is because NOBODY will buy their cars 5 years from now as soon as the world starts feeling the effects of peak oil


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/28/2009 6:35:03 PM
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HAHAHA yes that is what I am saying, it is when people like you decided oh wait, the world is ending, I must buy green to save the planet. But wait, what is this now? GM has the most efficient lineup on the planet. Car per car they are producing more efficient vehicles than Toyota. But without a green symbol like the prius, they will continue to be rated as second class cars. If you want proof, just look at yourself in the mirror. GM needs this car to change the mind of drones such as yourself. One thing I don't know how they will achieve though is the reliability reputation that Toyota has, one that is so bullet proof that 5 million recalls couldn't even begin to scratch the surface. Like I said, the majority of consumers are a bunch of mindless drones all buying what their neighbors/coworkers buy. Oh and wake up, gas isn't expensive anymore. Peak oil myths raise their heads when oil prices rise, please explain the reason why oil prices have dropped significantly since the myths of peak oil were raised a few years ago? I'm pretty sure that reason lies in overspeculating the price of oil when people found both the stock market and housing market to be far to volatile, more so then the actual amounts of oil we have left.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/25/2009 3:58:17 AM
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There are a few reasons why I want an electric car.

1. Very very low maintenance due to the extreme simplicity, minimal moving parts, and minimal temperature/pressure concerns.

2. Battery/Electric motor size and placement. You can place the batteries in the floor and the motors anywhere, as technology gets better these cars will only get lighter and more powerful. There will be some awesome electric supercars in the near future because of this.

3. The ability to "siphon" grid power off of block heater outlets allows for the car to be charged without paying for it :P

imo, it's an all or nothing game. Hybrids are compromises, and no compromise is win/win. With hybrids you are still stuck with all of the cost/weight/maintenance of a gas engine while adding excess bulk in batteries and motors. I will never buy a hybrid, however I have the full intentions of buying an electric car one day. Until then I'll stick to conventional cars that I can fix in my own garage.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/25/2009 4:00:16 AM
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Sorry, was gonna comment about how many deboosts you'll receive for that comment from the toylex club but decided against it. It's strange how refreshing the page didn't reset the comment box to not be a reply.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/25/2009 4:15:21 AM
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Hmmm just a thought. You know what would be cool? Using electric motor mass as a flywheel to more efficiently recapture braking energy. Increasing the rotational inertia of the electric motor (by increasing the diameter and decreasing the depth) will allow you to install motors with more torque all the while minimizing the takeoff torque overload condition where at a standstill the car generates far more torque than can be put down by the wheels (this would happen because a lot of the excess energy created by the motor would be stored in the kinetic energy of the motor itself).


VISOVISO - 12/25/2009 1:13:50 PM
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Before electric vehicles or any other form of future transplusion system can replace the combustion engine, infrastructure investment will have to be a key development. Governments around the world will have to take the lead in starting the shift say to an electric infrastructure. They will need to provide investment opportunity, tax incentives, etc. to get the private sector and the consumer moving on this. This will allow auto companies to produce electric vehicles at costs that can be sustainable and profitable for them as the volume of electric vehicles increases due to massive infrasturture investment and acceptance. This whole sector of "green" mobility could be the next type of "Silicon Valley" type of growth the world economy needs in terms of creating jobs and technology. However, the costs will be huge.


truckmantruckman - 12/26/2009 2:08:13 AM
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I would be concerned about the exposure of EMFs, and the myth about electric cars being stranded is very true for people that commute more than 40 miles, and the myth that they are expensive, it all depends, if I was Bill Gates it would be cheap, and you couldn't do a road trip in an ev, and don't even try to suggest that there are filling stations, lol I have never seen one in my life, I would like a good plug in hybid in a Hummer or a F-150 4x4 as long as it was durable, I have talked to a ev engineer and he told me that electric motors in the wheel with permanent magnets are brittle and prone to braking, unfortunately they would have to be inboard, on the plus side there would be little unsprung weight.


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