Audi continues luxury segment dominance on the Chinese market

How can they dominate "on" the Chinese market?

because you are changing the words... you cannot dominate "on", but you can continue your dominance "on"...Dominate is a verb and Dominance is a noun...they are different

Why does media always say 'Chinese' market? Does that mean the statistics include Taiwan and and even Singapore? The latter are Chinese, but NOT CHINA.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

I'm sure it means "Chinese" in the same way as to say "American". Chinese are items of or relating to China, not the ethnicity. Its like saying an "American" car. American applies to everyone from Chile/Argentina to Canada (Hence NORTH America/SOUTH America), but they do not mean American in terms of its people, but American in terms of relating to United States of America. But I'm sure you knew this already...

I wonder what language you speak? American applies to everyone from Chile/Argentina to Canada (Hence NORTH America/SOUTH America)?

It doesn't. For the same precise reason nobody say American market. Everyone says US market, not even USA market. You'll only confuse everyone saying 'American' market.

Right Dlin, that is precisely why I did not say "American" market, but everyone does refer to cars from GM/Ford as "American" cars.

I speak a few languages, and English happens to be one of them. Are you questioning the fact that Chile/Argentina is in South AMERICA? I don't think its by coincidence that the continent is called South AMERICA. I think its pretty obvious that South AMERICA, Central AMERICA (Latin AMERICA), and North AMERICA all have AMERICA in its name for a reason... Could it be because its all a part of AMERICA???

SINGAPORE is not Chinese, sure has a lot of Chinese people ( like every other place ) but ethnically they are Malay (Singapore used to be part of Malaysia plz check). Also, I would like to know about Taiwan though as China likes to think of Taiwan as its part but most Taiwanese think otherwise. What about Hong Kong, Macau etc?

actually, you are quite wrong in a few respects. Singaporeans are not "Chinese", but the majority are of Chinese ethnicity (about 75% of the population are settling Chinese immigrants). Yes, they used to be a part of Malay, but it doesn't mean most of the ethnic Malay stayed.

As for Taiwan, technically (politically), they are not recognized by about 90% of the world. Of course its inhabitants wants to consider themselves as a separate entity, but so do inhabitants of every "breakaway" territories i.e Chechens, Ossetians, Kosovars, Palestinians, etc... Hong Kong and Macau are a part of China (albeit SEZs), they are part of China.

BS. Looks like you are just one of those uneducated people....

China has no control of Taiwan in more than 100 years. PRC has never been able to invade Taiwan since its establishment in 1949. Taiwan's GDP is ranked 19th in the world, before Netherlands or Sweden.

All of these share nothing in common with "breakaway" territories.

dlin, speaking of uneducated...

I would like to know where you are from, and I'll tell you if you are in one of the few hand full of countries that recognizes the territory of Taiwan. I live in the United States and often (prior to the past two years) that California ranks as the 8th largest economy in the world. Does that make California a country too? Once you have educated yourself, please comment on these matters. Until then, stick to automobiles.

audispy:

Well, political reality is one thing. What I'm saying is when media reports 'CHINA' market, it doesn't include Taiwan. So why 'Chinese'? You'd say 'US' market, not 'American' market, right?

ThierryHenry14:

The analogy is just not there. Cal is 8th economy entity all right, but Federal has control over it in some aspects and it has no its own military force. How can it be similar to Taiwan/China situation?

dlin,
That is precisely my point. By simply stating that a certain entity's economy or GDP is a certain amount does not make it a country. GDP does not measure anything outside of economics and does not make Taiwan a country.

With that said, it does not matter if China does not control Taiwan or does not do this or that. Truth of the matter is, Taiwan is not a country and it IS a part of PRC. ROC is not a country. Thats the end of that. Now whether companies choose to consider ROC as a separate "market" is another matter, but just because a company considers Taiwan a separate market does not make it a country.

I never said or imply that GDP 'alone' makes a country. And to say a economically well established entity with clear defined territory and force of self-defense, all of which China has no control of, part of PRC, is like saying your son is not your family provided all your neighbor said so.

Like the Israel denied by Muslim, Taiwan IS a country, recognized or not. It may be a singular political condition, but it's NO part of PRC, unless you are a CHINA-man.

i'm confused. i thought this thread is about audi's lead in the chinese premium market through undercutting its competitors by building chinese made audi's and the fact that import tax is still near 50% for german cars.

i'm also confused because wikipedia lists taiwan as a country. and since thierryhenry14 doesn't sound like he knows what he's talking about, i think i'll go with what wikipedia says.

it is apparent that politically, you guys are very ignorant and uninformed so I will stick to the automotive topic.

dlin,
Again, Taiwan is a country in its own eyes and in the eyes of a very select few. I am not a China man, but I do know that you are talking percieved facts rather than actual facts. With your analogy of the father/son. It is like saying the son (Taiwan) is over 18 and is separating with his father. Does that make him a dependant on his father, NO. Does that still make him the son of his father, YES.

as for validus, yes, this is about Audi's success in the Chinese market, and no, Wikipedia is not the answer to everything. It is an online encyclopedia written/editted by the public. Here's one for you:

http://www.un.org/en/members/

please help me find the following: Taiwan, Chinese Taipei, Republic of China... When you find it, then you can talk. If you do not, please, slap yourself in the mouth.

Wow can't believe you're stupid enough to bring up the issue of UN membership to make your point. One doesn't need UN membership to be considered a country. In fact, china isn't considered a "country" by some UN members. I guess then china must not be a country in that regard.

Your distorted view is obviously the result of chinese upbringing. Communist education usually limits one's ability to think outside the box.

Besides, wikipedia has more credibility than some random douchebag at some car forum.

Aside from the political arguments above, this is great news for AUDI.