Having The Money To Buy A Lexus LF-A NOT Enough For Lexus. You Must Be COOL Enough To Get APPROVED Before You Can Buy It!

lol sorry Lexus fanboys, even if you win the lottery, and buy someone elses position in line, you still won't be able to purchase your dream car.

LOL. Well it depends. Maybe they need to see you have a Camry/Corolla as your other car for them to approve :P

lolz! so all they care bout is u owning a coolified toyota or lexus and ur in with the lf-a. of course u know lexus and toyota buyers are budget buyers looking value. middle aged white folks who live in posh areas still prefer to have a safe and dull toyolexus than a posh bentley or mercedes. thats reality in america. fat and gullible.

LEXUS CANT BE SERIOUS WITH THIS. WHAT THE F*&K DOES THAT PROVE. TO ME IF YOUR MONEY IS GREEN AND YOU GOT IT YOU CAN PURCHASE AS MANY LFA'S AS YOU WANT. LEXUS IS GETTING A LITTLE OUT OF HAND WITH THIS CAR NOW. IF PEOPLE DIDNT LINE UP TO BUY THIS CAR WOULD THEY STILL TRY TO INTERVIEW YOU FOR A JOB TO BUY THEIR CAR.....STUPID A$$ MOVE ON LEXUS PART IMO....

what's all the quarrel about...

Ferrari did the same thing with the Enzo, before you could own one they had pre-requisite's in owning other Ferrari's.

the issue is no different here...no douche with $$$ can just get whatever they want, Lexus is ensuring that the credibility of the car won't be in the hands of an idiot exploiting them incorrectly.

good move ToyMoCo!

"what's all the quarrel about...

Ferrari did the same thing with the Enzo, before you could own one they had pre-requisite's in owning other Ferrari's.

the issue is no different here...no douche with $$$ can just get whatever they want, Lexus is ensuring that the credibility of the car won't be in the hands of an idiot exploiting them incorrectly.

good move ToyMoCo!"

Wrong!!!! What Ferrari did with the Enzo is completely different than what Lexus is doing with the LF-A. The Prerequisite for the Enzo was that you had to be a Previous Loyal Ferrari buyer who purchased several Ferraris in the past. Lexus Plans on selling the LF-A to folks who are important figures, highly visible, influential people. Sort of like a rolling commercial with a popular figure head driving it.

What Lexus fails to realize that they are thinning out an already thin pool of buyers. If Lexus wants to see important people driving the LF-A, then I’m afraid that they will have to give plenty of them away.

I assume your defending the douche community, active member? ;)

let's say for instance...I just won the lottery, got millions to throw away and I want an Enzo but can't own one because I need to own other Ferrari's to show I'm somewhat competent in now purchasing an Enzo?

singling out the have's from the have nots...

So now I go to purchase an LF-A and Lexus decides to do a backround check on their most impressive vehicle available and if I'm suitable to be an owner of one...they're being selective in deciding my worth and again comes down to the have's from the have nots.



in the end, sounds the same to me...those with the $$$ and status will own this vehicle, goes the same for the owners of the Enzo. in the end, I take my happy go lucky self to Lambo and by a Murcielago and drive with the doors up to show them my "status"!!!

r15: ferrari's move was about treating LOYAL customers better than some guy who walks in off the street with a bucket of money. why shouldn't loyalty be rewarded??

i can assure that lexus isn't checking to see that LFA buyers are loyal to lexus. they want to see that you own their COMPETITORS CARS. that's tacky.

The problem with most of your arguments, is that the car is long ago sold out worldwide. There are only 150 for north america. The manufacturer is handling the entire transaction. There are 15 people designated worldwide to assist in the ordering/delivery process. All cars will be built to order, and possibly no two the same. The owner will pick fabrics, fibers,metals,leathers etc. they are all hand built, each at a net loss to Lexus.

mitch: please. they're not 'sold out.' a list of people who claim interest is NOT sold out. and if lexus has yet to confirm that people are good enough to own their precious car, it's quite literally impossible for them to be sold out. furthermore, you can't even buy the thing, it's only for lease. and a lease isn't 'sold' until you sign on the dotted line and take delivery of the car. this too is literally impossible since no cars have been produced. TRY AGAIN>

Lexus wants $20k as a deposit to get you to fill out the paperwork! If you are accepted as a buyer(leaser?) you then give another $20k. You then order and wait a year to 18 months. Lexus simply doesn't want collectors buying the car and putting it in their private collection. They want the car to be driven and seen. If you're gonna drive it you'll get one. If you don't you won't.

lexus wants...

* more money for the LFA than a comparable ferrari
* people to lease it, not buy it
* lessees to be cool enough for lexus
* lessees to drive competitors cars to qualify for the privilege of a lease
* to put down deposits for a car they've never seen or driven
* etc. etc.

has lexus thought about what people with seven figure incomes would like to drive and how they would like to be treated?? apparently not.

This has been happening with limited-production supercars forever. Lexus already wont be recouping any R&D money from the LFA off of its sales, so for them, this is merely an insurance-like thing for the company.

Plus, why sell it to every Tom, Dick and Harry and diminish its exclusivity? As a company they have the right to.

Oh I see. All the anti-Toyota/Lexus trolls come out at night. -5 deboosts in 3 minutes might as well be a Purple Heart on this website.

Please.... are they serious? So if you want to buy an LF-A you have to prove that your other Toyota or Lexus cars you currently own are cool? Or are they bias? So if you own Lexus cars you are automatically approved. I drive an LS everyday and I feel nerdy instead of cool. So not only is it outrageously over priced for something no faster than a 458 Italia but cost over 100,000 pounds more than a 599.

I love the car to death but as Richard Hammond said in his review, it's a Lexus, you simply can't get away with that price. At $175,000-$225,000 it's worth it. Since it's an engineering practice I'll give it to them and the R&D cost must have been extremely high. It did take them almost a decade.

Anyways it's a good car but it's when it's Japanese vs Japanese it's no faster than a GT-R which costs a fraction of the cost. The gimmick of having a "Lexus" nameplate can only get you so far in this segment.

lolz badgewhore how come ure da laughin stock on this site? ur name is brought up on forums too.. i guess ur the guy who always starts the trouble but cant be seen cause internets the protection that shells u in. lmaoz. awesomenessssssss. dunno who said that but lotta pl dont like u tho.. sad. its the net.. how could they not like u from the net. imagine the real world

LOL.

lol... you are a really comedian. you in an MR2 and another guy in an F50. That's not a race. That's an F50 blowing by some dumbass in a cheap japanese boxster.

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A few corrections:

Yes BMW, M/B, and Porsche have been conservative in the performance times, but that has never been the case with Lexus.

A friend of Bill Gates did not loan the Enzo to Road and Track it was a Utah Jeweler Richard Lossee.

http://archive.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=627


$370K try again since you can’t buy a LF-A in U.S of A. (lease only) you have to leave our shore to get one in Euro it sells for 375,000 = $536,200.68 at today exchange rate.

So I guess Jay Leno gets one and Conan O' Brian doesn't?

Even if I have the money, I wouldn´t buy this car. That is a must for me: If I buy a car the only thing that I have to show them is the money...what I am or was, what I have or had is not their business and the same goes to any Brand trying to decide if they will or will not sell a car to me.

Noone said this except some idiot here on this site.

This policy will likel last about 6 months, as I do not see it selling well.

They didn't say anything about owning other Toyotas. They will look at your other cars and judge your taste. Not a bad thing for people with collections who are curious to see what Lexus thinks.

This is a very special car and Lexus is preventing trash from getting a hold of it.

Why would anyone buy this car when for the money you could buy most any Ferrari!

"Why would anyone buy this car when for the money you could buy most any Ferrari!"


- Only fools would buy it.

What is most interesting about this sales strategy is that having these people own a LF-A does not translate into them owning another Lexus necessarily. The purpose of a Halo vehicle is to have the technology trickle down into the vehicles that 'real' people buy. I guess what I see here is a further desperate cry to inject passion into a passionless brand -- this time using people, status and socio-economics rather than cars. Remember the adjustment of the tagline to 'The Passionate Pursuit of Perfection'. Well that had zero effect and now so will LF-A on the core brand. The reality is that Lexus needs its brand champions to buy this vehicle and be proud, not be another car in a stable of exotics.

These 'cool' owners are not going to transcend the band and make me want to buy a beige ES or RX which are the bread and butter of ALL Lexus sales. Terrible move. Like everything else Toyota they are focusing on the wrong part of the vehicle and over managing the irrelevant consequences of the limited production LF-A. Get back to improving your once great quality and the cars will sell themselves (see strategy from 1975-2006).

Ford did an excellent job with the GT, take a lesson. They are the ones on the right track these days.

It is kind of stupid, but not as much as the anti-Lexus fools make it seem.

It is a rare car, and they aren't really concerned with the driver's "coolness" but making sure the car is seen and not just placed in a collector's garage under a car cover.

Someone with other exotics would likely be more willing to drive this thing around town and actually enjoy it for what it is.

I know Lexus is NOT the first company to have this mindset.

The Japanese and Europeans don't quite understand that America is quite a diverse place. I've seen people that have money but never flaunt it and the other way around. Not sure what Toyo/Lexus is trying to accomplish. This maybe construed as discriminatory.

BTW, this is the 21st century and coolness is an attribute of iProducts not cars. That L-badge might as well stand for Loser.

cars will always be cool, chump.

The Lexus fans are making it seem like Lexus cares that the car is not handed to "trash", but instead handed to people who can take care of the car. Well, who wants to bet Lexus will approve every single "trash" celebrity just because they are famous?

Smart move by Lexus. Since you can not buy this vehicle only lease it, this ensures that the selected owners will treat the car right. It also maintain its value in the future.

it's a dumb move as they'll have a hard enough time selling these cars. furthermore, those who can afford such a car will be incredibly offended that they are being judged worthy to buy a car from a upstart brand.

absolutely hysterical. you have to be 'cool' and driver the car in the 'right places.' so the car is basically a marketing play.

by the way, FERRARI is having a tough time selling 500 units of it's topline cars. how, exactly, is lexus going to sell that many of this ugly thing--especially given their obnoxious buyer criteria?

The European fanboys/anti-Lexus sheeps are clueless as usual. Check out the Lexus forums. The waiting list is huge. People who have the money WANT this car. There are on average 5 to 6 people per dealership who have already put their name down for the LFA as we speak, but the cruel fact remains that only 500 LFAs will be ever made on Earth. So what would you do if you were Lexus, as each of the 500 LFAs is sold at a loss? Make the most of the loss of course. Since the demand far exceeds supply, you'll want to make sure the cars go to good hands. Instead of selling to those who buy supercars only to resell them for profit or to collect them in their garage as decorations, you'll want buyers who actually enjoy the limited-produced luxury supercar in the way it is intended--by driving it to luxury places and bring it to the tracks. You'll want buyers to not only enjoy the car themselves but also be able to show people how they enjoy the car.

Only through this selective process will Lexus find the buyers among the long waiting lists who can make Lexus's loss in making the car worth the effort.

The LF-A is a lost cause and will not do anything for the brand other than make a few Rich, Clueless, Lexus Fanboys here in America happy. Reason why I mentioned America is because, America is the only place where you will find someone stupid enough to like a Lexus more than an Italian Exotic. LOL!! Show me any place other than America where there are Lexus Lovers?

What will the LF-A do? The LF-A doesn't make the cars in Lexuses current lineup anymore appealing. I doubt that anyone will trade-in an M3 for an IS-F just because lexus produced the LF-A.

Because you say so? lol. Just because you hate Lexus doesn't mean the LFA isn't enhancing the image of Lexus in the eyes of others. It's already happening everywhere if you bother to read beyond AutoSpies.

And did you think Toyota developed the world's second carbon-fiber weaver in-house only to make 500 LFAs? A lot of technologies developed for the LFA will trickle down to the next generation of Lexus's regular lineup, whether you like it or not.

Because you say so? lol. Just because you hate Lexus doesn't mean the LFA isn't enhancing the image of Lexus in the eyes of others. It's already happening everywhere if you bother to read beyond AutoSpies.”

- Everywhere? Do you mean everywhere in America? Show me a place other than America where there is interest in Lexus.


“And did you think Toyota developed the world's second carbon-fiber weaver in-house only to make 500 LFAs? A lot of technologies developed for the LFA will trickle down to the next generation of Lexus's regular lineup, whether you like it or not.”

- Carbon Fiber is expensive dude. Do you think that Toyota will equip the Camry with super expensive Carbon-Fiber Parts? LOL. Dude, You got to be able to see how much of a Fanboy you sound like.

Absolutely brilliant move by Lexus! If I had the money and met the requirements I would flat out buy this car because I know for a fact that whoever is selected to purchase this car is in for some serious royalty inhouse wise and timeless wise. Hands down this car may not be quite as fast as the new 458 Italia but the Italia is no match technology wise and the Italia wont even be close to the iconic value as the Lexus LFA in the long run. Mark my words!

And how do you know the LFA is not as fast as the 458 Italia? To this date there has been no comparison test conducted between the two yet. The 458 Italia may have a slightly higher power output but that's where its advantage ends. On the track the LFA will most likely be much quicker than the 458 Italia with its faster engine response, more balanced weight distribution and a lower center of mass.

"Hands down this car may not be quite as fast as the new 458 Italia but the Italia is no match technology wise "

- Spoken like a true Fanboy. (And I’ll bet the farm that you are an American) LOL!!

The Italia cannot match the LF-A's technology? Are you high? The 458's transmission is light years ahead of the LF-A's transmission. The LF-A also has one less gear than the Ferrari. Not to mention the 458’s rarer, better balanced mid-engine setup. Only a retard would pay over $100,000 more for an car that is slower, offers less technology, and made by a brand that has zero pedigree when it comes to making exotic cars. I’m gonna love watching the LF-A fail. Which it will.



"On the track the LFA will most likely be much quicker than the 458 Italia with its faster engine response, more balanced weight distribution and a lower center of mass."

- Stop Talking out of your rear-end. What you just said is %100 pure fanboy talk. You aren't willing to accept someone saying that the 458 is faster, while at the same time you spew your fanboy bile that "On the track the LFA will most likely be much quicker than the 458 Italia". If that isn't unproven fanboy fantasy, I do not know what is.

lol...show me some test data to prove your point then.

Where's your test data? At least I have Lexuses past (fell short of mark) efforts to go by? What are you basing your predictions on? Fanboy Pride?

The LFA is as fast if not faster than the Enzo on the Nurburgring. That alone shows how much better tuned the LFA is than the much higher powered Enzo. The entry-level Ferrari 458 Italia is certainly not going to do better.

Can you point me to a link where official times are posted for the vehicles that you've just mentioned?

Personally the 458 & LFA are currently at the top of my list....doesnt matter if I ever own them, fact is these 2 radicals own the spot-light. I give the 458 5 stars for speed & fun and I give the Lexus LFA 4 1/2 for speed & fun but the Lexus will probably increase to well over 5 stars as it has a tendacy to grow on you over time...and you can be sure about that as far as those who are selected will be concerned!...........

Hey FanboyOfTheTruth I'am on your side and you may be right...The LFA just might end up having some tricks up it's sleeve and I hope Lexus does because it will seriously shut up the mouths of some of these naysayers like Joe_Limon & Lexsucks. Think of it as waiting for the surprise factor. Trust me!...Lexus is up to something besides that big price tag everyone is so bent out of shape about lately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah... The LF-A will be king just like the IS300,IS350 and IS-F. LOL!!
I'm not sure what you guys are basing this dominance on? I cannnot be on lexus past efforts, which all fell short of BMW when it comes to driving dynamics and performance. Now we're supposes to believe that Lexus will beat out Ferrari? Lol!!!

The great elitist attitude from the company that makes Corollas’, perhaps the reason they’re destined to never really play in this arena.

Congratulations’ Toyota on another marketing debacle.

Yeah and I'm telling you the ToyLex fanboys will get the last laugh because just as sure as Mr. Akio Toyoda is heir and new president of his grandfathers founding Co. This guy is destined to make Toyota great and the Lexus F cars will be his Fist of Fury!

No offense or anything, but you gotta calm down with this whole Lexus fanboy crap.

Ever notice how Toyota/Lexus fanboys are always telling us products that have YET to come out are going to destroy the competition. They did it with the IS, IS-F, LS, and LF-A. But when these new products do arrive, they never seem to topple the industry leaders/benchmarks.

-Wimmer...winner...whoever you are? I'm just as calm as a turle. So what's your hate? we all are fanatics about something...what turns you off besides being overwhelmed by this whole Lexus fanboy crap?

Oops thats turtle..

I would rather take a Audi R8 V10. The LF-A front end looks like a jack-o-lantern.

Yeah...Dr550 you just pay close attention because one day soon you're gonna see the LFA smoke that frankenstein looking Audi r8 v1o. Ever noticed how the R8 just looks like it has a gas cap from the old Ford mustangs, rear panels from Bugatti Veyrons (not a bad thing, just looks wack on the Audi) doors from a voltswagon(however you spell it!) front-end from an alien, big butt rear-end from God knows where...the whole thing just has that exotic retarded looks, come on let's be real here! So yeah go ahead and take the Frankenstein looking R8 because I will definately take the LFA over the visual monster any day!

How can they be "doing better" while losing money on each car sold?

the fact that the LFA did a top gear WET LAP 3 SECONDS faster than ANY other car in the wet speaks volumes. It's WET lap was faster than the 430 in the dry. You really think the 458 is THAT much faster than the 430 is? Please. If you do some research you can see that the LFA was developed over a long period of time for a reason. Quality and reliability. That's what Lexus is. Drive a ferrari everyday and see what kinda problems you run into. That doesn't happen with a Lexus. Why would it happen with their supercar? LFA engineers even said it would produce more torque more horsepower and rev much higher if they would have allowed it to. Nope, not Lexus, they want reliability, that sureness that your car isn't going to give up on you. Look at the Panel gaps on the new 458, sad. Around the door handles, the cheap looking gas lid- honda civics have an even spacing around their gas lids, but not the 458. What about the triple but really dual exhaust? At least the LFA has a real triple exhaust. Make fun of lexus for the IS-F's stacked tail pipes- but Ferrari copied it with the california. People say things about the corolla. It's the BEST selling car of ALL TIME. There is a reason Toyota is the best selling car company in the world. And a reason Lexus is the best selling luxury car company in the US.

Still behind the other players:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/show/powerlaps.shtml
Due to the nature of the TOP gear track the LF-A will only gain about 1 second in the dry

The LF-A looks dated. The Ferrari 458 looks nicer. And no matter how you slice it, the LF-A isn't $100,000 better than the 458 ( if at all better).

And who cares how much Boring Corollas that Toyoya sells? Maybe that's why Toyota has had the most recalls out of any manufacturer last year. Best selling doesn't mean best vehicles. Dont get it twisted.

No, no...we dont have it twisted but anyone that goes around calling themselves LexSucks is a real living numbskull. Lexsucks you better hope & pray the LFA dont smoke the 458 at the Nurburgring on a wet or dry day because that will be the day the American pie will once again fly and be thrown in your face! You're such an underdog lover I bet when you get done bashing and hating you hate even being around your own self.

and anyone who calls himself 'lexworld' is kool-aid drinking cult member.

LATEST BREAKING NEWS: Halo Supercar Lexus LFA Sold Out In Japan! That's right...all 165 LFA that were alocated to Japan have been sold out 3 months before the car was released. This is Official news...only Europe and USA is next! Well that's at least 165 cool elects that have been selected by Lexus in very serious royalty style and I'am happy for the Japanese people. They seriously have their own supercar they can be very proud of. "Job well done Mr. Toyoda"!

let's review:

* no production LFAs exist yet
* they're not SOLD OUT because nobody has paid for one
* they're losing at least a couple hundred thousand dollars PER CAR
* they're offending wealthy buyers with their 'coolness' test
* owner of leading performance cars think the LFA is a joke
* oh, and it's really freakin' ugly

if toyota produced more cars like this they'd be....bankrupt and out of business.

yup, it's a real winner!