Can Acura's TL SH-AWD Be The First SERIOUS Challenger To The Quattro?

Insideline totally lost me with their redesign.

I used to read it daily and now, after their redesign, I never go there anymore.

LOL!

Technologically it has a superior all wheel drive system to the "standard" quattro with an active rear diff vectoring power to the left and right wheels...however Audi has the same technology with an active electromagnetic Haledex differential they use in the new S4 but its only on that model for now. (also the same unit on the Mitsubishi EVO) So its like comparing apples to apples in one way and apples to oranges in others. The Audi is stingy and won't offer active rear diffs on mainstream cars like the japs will. Reason...THEY ARE CHEAP THEY ARE CHEAP THEY ARE CHEAP!

"SH-AWD is currently the most advanced system available."

How is more advance the X Drive system in the X6?

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No it isn't. Mitsubishi's AWD system is better than Quattro or SH-AWD. Niether Quattro or SH-AWD has any type of torque vectoring. And the system in the new S4 isn't a standard Quattro setup.

I'm not sure why folks consider the Audi system as the standard bearer. It isn't.

He's just talking out of his A$$. You wont get an answer.

why compare the sh-awd (which honda actually develops themselves) against the quattro, when audi basically licenses technology from haldex and torsen for their own awd applications.

all i know is that xdrive allows torque vectoring even while the vehicle is under braking, whereas sh-awd doesn't.

however, i think nissan's attesa or mitsubishi's ayc is probably the best of them all on the track tho. after all, no other awd system has been able to dethrone the gt-r's attesa on the nurburgring yet.

I'm agreeing with LexSucks & validus00

I would take a mechanical diff over an electronic one any day, I wasn't impressed with the Lateral G's this car was doing, sounds like an over load of un necessary electronics at war with performance and the drivers input. I generally hate traction control.

really? Mechanical ones you have no control over how much torque is vectored.

you have no idea what you are talking about, haldex (learn how to spell) is not the quattro on the S4/A4, but used only on transverse engines like A3 and TT.
You are an idiot and you are ignorant.

Boy another flame headline. I would say the first REAL challenger would be the X Drive considering it out sell the Quattro world-wide.

Gotta agree with "theoptimisticpessimist" -- It appears that Autospies words their subjects so as to incite flame-wars, and then a load of list members are more than happy to unknowingly oblige.

As they say, arguing on the Internet is like competing in the Special Olympics: Even if you win, you're still retarded.

So only because the TL SH-AWD now comes with a manual it's put up here, LOL!

I know I asked for things different than BMW stories but c'mon. How about someone goes and gets some intel on the type of eco-boost engine coming on the US version Focus and if we are getting an RS or SVT and the specs.

I have to disagree that the Acura system is the most advanced. I would say that the BMW Xdrive is better.

When Acura stops designing cars to look like Mr. Roboto, I'll take their technology seriously.

Its funny how some people here swear by the technology and the "torque vectoring" and "active rear diff" and all that stuff, when they cannot even feel the difference. Its all theoretical talk...

It's funny how people talk about stuff they don't know. First for all of you ignorant morons, including Mr. agent009, quattro spells without Capital Q.
Second quattro in Audi sedans has been using a torque sensing (therefore a torque vectoring) for 30 years now as a center diff. The UR-quattro even had a rear diff. Torsen. Yes, like the original H1 Hummer, which uses 3 torsens.The side to side torque split being handle by EDLs. The sport differential on the S4 is a torque vectoring diff similar to the X6 differential. The SHAW is a bit different, but the principal is the same.
Like Thierryhenry says, you would not as an average driver feel any difference while driving the cars.

It's amazing how ignorant some folks are here. What's sad is that they spew their mis-information as if it were fact. Only in America.