PEDAL GATE UPDATE: Toyota To Send First Gas Pedals To Factories NOT Cars Posing Risks On The Road

is that a bad thing? if toyota goes bankrupt tomorrow (not selling cars), none of the customer will get their pedal replaced for free, ever.

by the way. i am very interested in the failing rate of the pedal. i still recall every article in autospies mention GTR's transmission problem, make it sounds like there is not tomorrow and your GTR's tranmission will break as soon as you floor the gas, while in reality there are less than 20 GTR tranmission was affect out thousands they sell.

I bet the pedal failure rate is extremely low considering the volume of the recall. I believe all of this is over 11 confirmed cases in the US, and the fact it appears it was known for a long time an no one did anything.

This is very similar to the Audi 5000 cases in the 80's.

It is cheaper to put the pedals in once rather than to fix cars that already have pedals, even if they are in cars that are putting people at risk. Tha is why they are installing them in new cars at the factory rather than protecting our families who are driving around in these projectiles.

PS: I still have a Camry for sale at a BLOW OUT price. It now has a sweet wing I got off of ebay.

I sold my Corolla last year and bought a Chevy Malibu with a much longer warranty and nicer interior.

Badgewhore,

I think the reason this is getting so much attention is that Toyota first blamed the customers, then blamed the floor mats, and is now blaming a supplier. Then it is sending parts to factories instead of fixing things that have already broken and is POTENTIALLY putting people at risk.

oh. it is agent 009 post. i got it

you are a disgisting liar. these cars are killing people. how many thousands of people have been killed by these cars that didn't get recorded by 911?

shame on you both; toyota and whore

AGENT009
I dare you saying that it is like the audi 5000 in the 80's. Do your diligent research before posting such a ignorant comment.
There was nothing wrong with the pedal in the Audi. it was operator error. This was proven by the NHTSA and independent research from Japan and Canada. The 60 minutes piece sent a lot of unbased complaints to the dealers. Audi never paid a dime in any settlements and all lawsuits were lost by the plaintiffs or dismissed.
Besides the life of that poor little kid, no other lives were lost, i do not recall if there was any and how many injuries it would have created. But nothing compare to 20 deaths and at least 2000 injuries. And toyota is admitting already their wrong doing and you can expect the settlements to be in the hundred of millions of dollars.

Good day

How many people are not around to tell us that it was a sticky pedal that cause the accident that caused their death!

This is a very serious design flaw by toyota!

CTS Pedal VS. Denso Pedal - Image - Toyota Recall - Shows the good pedal by Denso and the bad pedal by CTS

http://www.tuneyfish.com/blog/cts-pedal-vs-denso-pedal-image-toyota-recall/

Pedal Gate ? Don't think so.
Toyota is at least making sure no new car comes off the line with a bad part. You can easily check the operation of the pedal when the car is off. Braking is not affected.

Toyota is at it again why is it a problem for them to fix the cars on the road that could potentially could kill instead of cars they have yet to sell?




The answer again and time and time again is profits the very thing that declined them over the last decade and brought them to this point. So selling new cars before fixing customers that already bought thier cars. This certainly is not a good businesses practice or is it safe for the customers and the public.

Yes the other point is that the supplier claims that they made the pedal to Toyota's specifications. What that sounds like to me is that Toyota has been diligently working to cut costs in many parts that the consumer never sees. Perhaps their specifications went a little too far. Another point this is not the first problem Toyota has had with treliability. What about the rust problems on the chassis rails of some Toyota trucks. This seems to be the result of Toyota expanding too rapidly for it's own structure to handle. Their drive to be the largest auto maker may have simply backfired. One does not have to be the largest to make money.

"...the supplier claims that they made the pedal to Toyota's specifications."

they were obviously just trying to DODGE a bullet by passing the buck back to toyota.

toyota's other supplier, Denso, had the SAME SPECS. but none of the Denso pedals were faulty.

goes back to what i've said and many others have long believed: toyota's problems escalated as they used more AMERICAN parts to replace previously sourced parts from japanese suppliers.

There are also some reports that the Denso pedals are causing unintended acceleration as well. Toyota is in big trouble!

when toyota gives specs to parts makers, they are primarily PERFORMANCE specs and physical dimension specs.

generally the specific DESIGNS and choice of materials are left to the suppliers. CTS screwed up by using a cheap component that eventually fails at ~38,000 - 40,000 miles, in moist conditions.

lol xyzz you are clueless, no, Toyota has the entire car modelled, and drawings for every part confirmed by an engineer. They don't simply slap together whatever their suppliers give them.

"They don't simply slap together whatever their suppliers give them."

of course not! i never said that. what i said is the suppliers still have discretion on minor details and MATERIALS, as long as the toyota specs are met. they don't waste time over micromanaging.

on the other hand toyota also LOANS their engineers to suppliers at times, to help perfect parts.

you have a too SIMPLISTIC view of things, fitting for your over simple mind.

Turn off the key or put the car in "N" dumb ass americans

This article proves nothing.

Sounds like a bunch of happy horse $h!t.

Why would the factory distribute them instead of shipping them directly to dealers?

Further Toyota still is talking about being #1. This goes against the very grain of selling quality. As someone else said CTS took the exact specs from Toyota. What ever parts they used in the pedel you better believe that Toyota specified parts,material etc.The only way CTS could be at fault is if they did NOT build the part to Toyota's specs or did NOT use the right materials in a part. I seriously doubt this. I believe this was Toyota's screw up and Toyota's alone.

yeah, toyota does the right thing, and people STILL BITCH!

so how many "casualties" were there altogether? LESS than 10 died; less than 20 injured. so toyota does a conservative action by recalling nearly SEVEN MILLION in response. how many of those MILLIONS of vehicles were actually at risk?

the media hype has WAY overblown this whole thing. and the haters just pile on, making like EVERY ONE of the millions is a time bomb!

and among those killed or injured, well they were likely more victims of social Darwinism than an evil, money grubbing toyota. they screwed up in at least TWO ways:

1) they likely STOMPED ON THE GAS, rather than just gently accelerated. what else would make a gas pedal get STUCK against totally passive floormats or sticky pedal return mechanisms?

2) they were too ignorant to simply FLIP the gear selector to N. in this situation, EVERY driver who ever drove a stick would push in the clutch as a near REFLEXIVE ACTION. shifting to N is the equivalent with an autobox.

at the very BOTTOM of the IQ totem pole, some drivers may not even KNOW what N is for. they go from P to D, and sometimes R. that's all. the FULL extent of their knowledge of making the car move.

i nominate the drivers in the fatal crashes for DARWIN AWARDS.

they ingeniuosly managed to take perfectly safe cars which TENS OF MILLIONS of other drivers never had problems with, or at worst had just MINOR problems easily handled by competent drivers, and somehow MANAGED TO KILL themselves and their passengers.

yep, DARWIN AWARD time again!