Toyota Issues Bleed Over To Lexus And Ford

They tie together, in that they may use similar parts. Wow, that was a brain buster.

I didn't say that, I said that they may use similar parts. You really do need to learn how to read.

Lexus is Toyota. They use the same parts to keep prices low. Lexus is not a independent car company. The press talks about Toyota, but Lexus is mentioned towards the end of articles.

They use the same designs. Who cares who makes the design, as long as the finished part lives up to Toyota's quality standards.

I know this is hard for "car guys" to understand, but there the parts are not causing problems with Toyota/Lexus or Ford. It's the Software controls that are in question. Likely the software algorithms are similar in all makes.

wtf is wrong with you, I did not claim that anywhere. I claimed their parts may be similar. ffs.

you're STILL WRONG joe. as g2ok said, it's likely a SOFTWARE problem.

Toyota CEO should apologize for the "bleed over" to Ford...

It's a software deficiency. Hopefully Toyota has better software engineers than Sony. Now the Ford chief is from Boeing, which has considerable capabilities.

There is nothing to bleed. Just needs a patch.

it is just a very MINOR shortcoming, that is ONLY EXPERIENCED by poor and/or incompetent drivers.

GOOD drivers will brake BEFORE hitting a pothole or rough pavement, and would NEVER have the "reported problem."

the minor shortcoming aspect, is that braking is shared between the regen system and the conventional brakes. so the feedback on the pedal may seem odd to people new to hybrids. that is ford's explanation, and it applies to toyota and lexus hybrids too.

So what, if you drive a Toyota you have to make sure you don't brake over potholes? lol XYZZ your logic is astounding.

idiot.

this applies to any and ALL vehicles. obviously you know NOTHING about chassis dynamics. i ALWAYS brake BEFORE a bad spot, and release as i go over it. this MAXIMIZES the distance the shocks/suspension travels, as well as smoothness.

imbecile

When I see a pot hole my first reaction is to drive around it, not slam on the brakes. But that wasn't the point, the point was, a car SHOULD NOT lose braking power from minor driving disturbances. But apparently you can't rub two brain cells together to figure that out.

moron.

i said bad spots, which include MORE than mere potholes, which most drivers NATURALLY avoid. you live in canada. have you NEVER SEEN washboard roads?

OF COURSE brakes should be work ALL the time. but they are always less effective on less than perfect surfaces. but of course, NEVER having much experience in winter driving on poorly maintained roads, you DON'T KNOW that, just as there are SO MANY THINGS you do not know.

brakes work BEST on good surfaces. suspensions work best on poor surfaces when they are FREE of the ADDITIONAL LOAD of braking. a good driver, which YOU SEEM NOT to be, allows ALL components of his vehicle to be optimized in their given tasks.

What about the Ford recall? I hardly hear anything about those ugly cars.

XYZZ is saying that, during emergeny situation, do not brake when there are potholes or railroad tracks. Just close your eyes and pray to God.
Funny, indeed.
Blame it on driver is easier.
BTW, there is a Prius in my garage. I'm not a Prius basher.

"...do not brake when there are potholes or railroad tracks. Just close your eyes and pray to God."


i never said that. what i said was brake AHEAD OF TIME.

over the years i have HONED a skill at braking, such that i EASILY get 100,000+ miles out of a set of disc pads. and i am NOT a slow driver.

i actually OVERbrake at times, then coast and don't use them AT ALL.

Why don't you hone your steering skillz to avoid them potholes? You will be less likely to have someone on their cell phone behind you rear ending you because you decided to stop for a pot hole.

joe, i know you are JUST A KID and likely do not have a whole bunch of miles under your belt.

i have A FEW MILLION under mine, in ALL KINDS of weather and road conditions. until you get at least 1/10 of my experience, you will continue to make NONSENSE comments about conditions you have NEVER experienced.

so i won't waste my time anymore responding to same.

and since apparently your neurons SHORT CIRCUIT when unable to understand me, i'll clarify that i probably TRAVEL OVER bad surfaces FASTER than most people. (maybe YOU would come to complete stops at the mere sight of a pothole.)

i normally travel 10 - 20 mph faster than other traffic. i scrub off speed before bad surfaces, then FLOAT OVER THEM with the suspension free to work their best.