Are Your Tax Dollars Being Used To Lure Buyers Away From Other Brands?

Are Your Tax Dollars Being Used To Lure Buyers Away From Other Brands?
Today, Toyota dealers across the country are speaking out against General Motors using taxpayer dollars to fund unfair tactics that undermine their businesses. Last week, General Motors launched a nationwide predatory advertising campaign that uses fear in an attempt to lure customers away from Toyota and Lexus dealers.

"Toyota dealers across the country are business owners who stimulate local economies and pay taxes to the government," said Paul Atkinson, President of the Toyota National Dealer Council and owner of Atkinson Toyota in Texas. "It is outrageous that GM is using our taxpayer dollars against us, making me and other Toyota dealers pay to undermine our own businesses."

According to the U.S. Department of the Treasury, the U.S. government owns 60 percent of the equity in General Motors.

"These incentives fail to take into account that, despite some recent problems, Toyota still makes some of the best cars, trucks and SUVs on the road in America," Atkinson continued. "These low-blow tactics pose a real threat to the citizens of the United States if the government lets these slip by."

Last week, Toyota executives wrapped up congressional testimony before the House Energy and Commerce Committee, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and, most recently, the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, & Transportation.

"In open and honest testimony before Congress, Toyota executives clearly demonstrated that Toyota is committed to working with regulators to ensure the safety of American drivers," said Atkinson. "It is time for the U.S. government to stop funding these predatory incentives that discourage fellow American citizens from doing business with me. GM said it themselves, 'May the best car win.'"






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themantheman - 3/10/2010 12:51:47 PM
-2 Boost
I agree..


91z4me91z4me - 3/10/2010 9:28:58 AM
+4 Boost
GM isn't the only one trying to play on fears and pull in Toyota owners. A local Nissan dealer is actually telling people to trade in their Toyota to them before the market is 'flooded' with used Toyotas, driving down the prices. But I would like to change one of the quotes just to put things into perspective:

"GM dealers across the country are business owners who stimulate local economies and pay taxes to the government," said Someone Fake President of the GM National Dealer Council and owner of Blah GM in Texas. "It is outrageous that Toyota is using our taxpayer dollars against us, making me and other GM dealers pay to undermine our own businesses (by using taxpayer dollars to fund development of their new factories)."

This exact quote could have been used any number of times as Toyota, Honda, and even Hyundai were given tax incentives to fund new factories while GM didn't receive the same funding.

Just throwing that out there, it could have been Ford or Chrysler used instead of GM in the example but the point remains.


91z4me91z4me - 3/10/2010 10:24:29 AM
+4 Boost
I disagree. I think tax incentives are a way of 'paying' a company. They reduce the overall tax income and yet the new construction puts constraints on items paid for by taxes, roads and utilities to name a few. That added strain is made up for by taxes in other areas (sales tax, bond sales and the like).

Also if we want to get technical the loan of money to GM will be repaid at its IPO when the government equity is sold. Don't forget that the shares may actually end up being sold for more than the loan funds so the taxpayers may actually make money on this whole affair. That would make the Toyota dealer's point moot.

GM could have been given the same tax incentives to update factories or retool lines that would have increased their likelihood of building more cars in the US, stimulating the economy in the same manner as a new factory. But they didn't receive those offers and didn't get that money.

I am not saying the Toyota dealers don't have a point but I can see that if I turn things around a little, people may see things from a new perspective.


91z4me91z4me - 3/10/2010 11:29:27 AM
+2 Boost
Apparently you didn't know that GM isn't a publically traded company at this time. Right now (since the BK filing) you cannot purchase stock in General Motors. The old GM stock became the stock of Motors Liquidation company, which IS traded. See the link below for the GM stock symbol.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=gm

A good read is available below.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/old-gm-stock-rallies-again-good-news-for-gm-ipo/


91z4me91z4me - 3/10/2010 11:36:24 AM
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I get how tax incentives work. What you aren't seeing is that GM hasn't had as much 'free money' (except for the TARP lonas) given to it in the last 15 years as Toyota and other import manufacturers have. I am simply saying that the dealers are whining because GM is getting 'taxpayer' funds to promote an offer they don't like. Boohoo! Toyota and other manufacturers have gotten tax incentives that have saved them ridiculous amounts of money to build plants while GM didn't get those same offers.

You know what, you and I just aren't going to see eye to eye on this and I don't feel like continuing to explain myself so lets just agree to disagree, OK?

And GM will do an IPO, the government will sell its equity, and the loans will be partly repaid by those shares and GM will continue to pay off the rest of the loans.. That is a foregone conclusion, there is NO 'maybe', ifs ands or butts about it.

Perhaps this article explains it better.

http://www.carlist.com/blog/?p=1374


AdmiralT20AdmiralT20 - 3/10/2010 11:10:53 AM
+6 Boost
Another anti-american product, anti-government, pro-foreign article from Agent009 and I am not surprised.
Fact is GM is not the only manufacturer doing it but Agent009 in his best elements singles out GM somply because they got government assistance.
Good work Agent009


Agent009Agent009 - 3/10/2010 11:18:26 AM
-2 Boost
AdmiralT20- Again you miss the point, so I will spell it out for you

I just asked the question.

IMHO:
I do find it odd that a company owned mainly by the government is actively is leveraging those funds against a foreign maker that just happens to be under federal scrutiny by the same government.

Technically it can be construed as prejudiced at a federal level. However I am not a lawyer.



LexSucksLexSucks - 3/10/2010 11:26:18 AM
+3 Boost
Only retards would listen to what one manufacturer says about the other, and then base a purchasing decision on that. Lol!


thstonethstone - 3/10/2010 4:06:46 PM
+4 Boost
I am PROUD that my tax dollars are finally being used for something of value at GM! At least GM is finally getting up off of their fat asses and doing something rather than sitting around paying more bonus's while the ship sinks.


AgentOrangeAgentOrange - 3/10/2010 6:29:18 PM
+5 Boost
WHAT??? GM is offering incentives to increase revenues at the expense of a foreign competitor?
That sounds like capitalism. I thought Gov't Motors was supposed to follow the socialist model...
Next we'll hear that GM is making profits (horrors) and paying taxes and hiring workers...


nguyenvuminhnguyenvuminh - 3/10/2010 9:17:05 PM
+4 Boost
009 - the way you phrase your question is the problem. "using tax payer's money to ..." is a catch all. The gov't financial support for GM (or for AIG, for XYZ company for that matter) is to be used to rebuild GM. Part of the rebuild effort includes all normal operations associated within that industry and using incentives to lure buyers of another make to your product is a normal practice. I don't see how and where the money came from makes a difference. The fact is Tennessee and Kentucky's tax payers money is used as tax incentives for Toyota, Nissan or Honda to set up shops there. And those companies use those so-called tax payers' funded tax incentives to lure buyers away from GM and Ford as well.


upwardsupwards - 3/11/2010 9:04:34 AM
+2 Boost
Are my tax dollars making America better? Sure now let's take it a step better and get health care for all going as well.


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