The Spies Want To Know: Do YOU Want A Black Box In YOUR Car?

Because people can manipulate and take advantage of it in ways I don't understand how, I say nay.

hell no. only system failure data but not location, speed, etc. otherwise the black box will eventually become a cash register for local speed traps, trial lawyers for civil liability, etc. Not good.

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HELL NO!

The fact that GM, 60% of which is owned by a Marxist controlled government, supports the move should surprise or sway anyone.

Fact is, black-boxes in cars that are of the variety of that which the government wants are yet another affront to our privacy and freedoms. One the genie is out of the bottle you cannot put it back. Once the first court case uses the detailed information against you in a crash or other matter, the rest of us are done. Big Brother will ride with us every where we go.

And............

Once big brother can tap our ever move, how fast we are going, and how many G's we are pulling he can simply mail us a ticket every time our car finks on us via satellite.

It will make the constitutional nuisance of photo-radar look like a mosquito bite.

Dick Cheney my hero once said this about unwarranted wire taps. "What do you have to hide, if you've done nothing wrong"?

NO

It would make the roads safer knowing someone literally is watching over your shoulder, also it would make accident investigation find verdicts very accurately and easily. I say yes, only because I have nothing to hide and see this as the single most powerful way of keeping traffic laws enforced and thus traffic fatalities minimized to the maximum.

Possibly the most stupid thing i have read this year.

Most Vehicle Collisions are not as a result of speed or sudden velocity changes.

Something as simple as an inattentive driver keeping the steering wheel straight on a curve would cause his/her vehicle to crash into an oncoming vehicle.

Now if the oncoming vehicle was traveling above the posted speed limit, automatically with black box info he/ she would be blamed for speeding and the true culprit would avoid the blame.

I'm sorry, but according to your logic, if speed wasn't a factor there wouldn't be any speed limits. This is most absurd.

car crash deaths are a historical low!

correction, car crash rates are not at a historical low. There are more people driving now than in the 50's. Car crash crash rates are at a relative low.

NHTSA did a survey of 1000 motorvehicle accidents in the northeast and southern states. After analyzing this data they found that the majority of the time the last words uttered by the driver in the NE were "oh shit!", while in the southern states it was "Hey BillyBob, hold my beer for a second - I was to try something!".

In reality car manufacturers will probably start installing more and more of these "black boxes" in new cars if only to defend themselves from frivolous lawsuits.

PS: If you don't think you're being monitored, albeit indirectly, read the following WSJ article - especially if you have a GPS (or OnStar) installed in your car.

Why 70 Miles Per Hour Is the New 55

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704688604575125510326010610.html?mod=rss_Today's_Most_Popular

Shock, what do you think GM is going to say to the political class that bailed their arse out. I'm all for manufacturer's making the decision themselves on whether or not to put in the "black box", BUT NOT a mandate by the a-holes in Washington. They've (D's and R's) created enough disasters that we all are going to have to clean (ie.PAY) up, so I think this PR stunt can be put towards the bottom of the list. And wishful thinking Joe...

A while back they talked about putting a tax on how much a person drives. This would be a great tool for them to do just that. I vote no.

Are there any cars/brands/makes that do NOT use a black box? It would be good to see such list (and perhaps support those manufacturers).

if you have an air bag then you already have the so called blackbox. Now it is a matter of what data is being recorded. Like it or not, with the Toyota episode, every car manufacturers will have more and more data recorded in the "back box".
The better question to ask is who owns the black box, you,the manufacturer or the insurance company?

I think this is much like the airport screening measures and the government will be able to monitor movement of it's citizens. One day the black box is going to be in our heads with serial number 666.

Yes, the black boxes will protect me and my family from liars, idiots and people who are asleep behind the wheel.
Maybe a few hackers will cover the tracks of those who can afford it.
I'm betting most people can't afford those services, let alone have the time to worry about how they're going to get escape being caught doing reckless things.

who is going to protect me from my reckless grammar?

Toyota is finding good uses for Blackboxes.