Can ANYONE Drive Anymore? We Have Taught A Generation To Be "Dynamically Challenge"

Can ANYONE Drive Anymore? We Have Taught A Generation To Be
On the way home yesterday I rounded a corner and came upon a Nissan Armada up in the grass on the side of the road.  I immediately recognized the driver as our neighbor’s daughter and pulled over to offer my assistance. 

Upon inspection,  the Armada suffered no damage from the impromptu romp over the curb, but the driver was visibly shaken.  Apparently while rounding the corner she ran through a patch of water from a nearby sprinkler system and, simply slid wide of the corner and in to the grass.

This wasn’t a distracted driving incident, she wasn’t texting, nor talking on the phone, by all accounts, she is what I would consider a very attentive and responsible person. It was simply one of those unexpected moments that occur in normal driving you have to adjust for. What was most surprising to me was that she simply had no clue how it happened, much less what to do when faced with what I would have called, a normal situation.

Driver control is often a key factor missing in driver’s education and she was the prime example of the system failing.  While looking over the truck before sending her on her way, I learned a few interesting tidbits.  Although she is a college aged straight “A” student, the terms oversteer and understeer were foreign to her.  With all of the standard nanny systems onboard modern cars these days, many driving courses are simply glazing over driving dynamics assuming that the onboard systems will intervene and save the driver from themselves.

In reading over some of the excellent comments in yesterday’s GX460 post, it was immediately obvious that a fair share of our  readers share that common misconception as well.  I started driving before these systems were available, and I vividly remember discussions on oversteer and understeer and how to correct in such situations.  My driving instructor, the coach at my high school, even went so far as set up pylons in the football stadium parking lot, and made his students experience the issues in a safe and controlled manner.  Basically we were given the building blocks of driver safety and we all survived just fine.

Today however is another case, and I argue that we are failing to equip our first time drivers with the most basic sense of driver control.  After all we have all of those safety systems in place to take care of that for you, don’t we?  So why bother?

Let me put it this way.  Would you fly from Los Angeles to New York with the stewardess at the helm of your jumbo jet?  After all, a modern jet has the capability of taking off, flying, and landing without pilot intervention.  To most of us that would be absurd.  Even with all of the redundant safety systems, we still feel the need to have a pilot in control just in case all hell breaks loose.  That pilot is trained to “fly” the airplane. So why is a motor vehicle any different?

You have to remember that having systems in place help us all, however they are NOT there to save us from our own errors in judgment.   I guess I think of these systems as safety net, there to help but not to live by.  Like unemployment and welfare they are tools to give you a helping hand when the chips are down, and were never meant to be long term.

So am I right, or wrong?  Have we taught a whole generation that technology will be there to save them.  Have ABS, Traction Control, and Stability Control made our newest drivers “dynamically challenged”?   Like welfare have we created a nanny system we simply can never get out of?




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cconovercconover - 4/15/2010 11:25:39 AM
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I couldn't agree more. My first car was a 1985 Volvo 240DL, followed by a 1992 BMW 325is. Neither car had any electronic driver aids. In Maryland the requirements for becoming a licensed driver are so lax and ineffective they're frightening. When I took my driver's test to be licensed, we never even left the MVA lot or got above 10 miles an hour, and there wasn't another car in sight. Almost every aspect of the test involved properly parking the car. I wish I was making this up.

My parents wouldn't allow me to get my license until I had been on my permit for a full year (the state requirement was 4 months) and was able to drive a manual as well or better than an automatic. I drove in snow, rain, wind, rush hour DC Beltway traffic, and did all of this at all hours of the day and night. While I don't claim to be an expert driver, I look like The Stig compared to kids I know who were taught to the state standards.

My current car is a 2001 BMW 330ci, and is the first car I've had with stability control. While I realize that it is there to help me, I'm so used to being responsible for every action I take behind the wheel that I'm thrown off guard when I feel the DSC kick in, and a part of me is a little frustrated.


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 4/15/2010 1:20:34 PM
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Y E S


NannerPusNannerPus - 4/15/2010 7:18:51 PM
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In what period of US history do you think that the average driver actually had skills behind the wheel? Driver education in this country has always been the bare minimum to get a person to work and back in ideal conditions. Ask any random group of people from any generation to define 'under-steer', 'over-steer', when these conditions occur and how to deal with them and I beleive you will get the same blank stare 95% of the time of more.




NannerPusNannerPus - 4/15/2010 7:20:27 PM
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BTW that was a random comment, not really directed at you, I95SPEEDINGTICKETS.


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 4/15/2010 11:53:13 PM
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AHH........
Whew !!!!!

I had been scratching my head wondering how to answer that tough question.

It seems you are 100% correct in your comment.

: )


Agent009Agent009 - 4/15/2010 2:04:28 PM
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The saddest thing is that most drivers now haven't got a clue on how to control the car without the aids. In our quest to make everything safer we have made it so simplified that new drivers can't tell what is going on.

Road feedback and steering wheel input is considered an annoyance vs. critical signs of conditions.


BondMI6BondMI6 - 4/15/2010 2:32:26 PM
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Bring back the curb feeler!........


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 4/15/2010 3:13:04 PM
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What ??


theman440theman440 - 4/15/2010 5:09:37 PM
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DItto!


kpaxxkpaxx - 4/15/2010 2:37:03 PM
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Maybe but stability control don't work so well here in the North East especially in the heavy snow areas.....And I don't care who makes the system! SO even with stability control we still learn to have an extra sense of the cars rotational center and how to correct sliding, rotating and fish tailing cars.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 4/15/2010 3:12:00 PM
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If you can survive in a midwest snow storm you can drive any where.


thstonethstone - 4/15/2010 4:30:51 PM
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You are absolutely right. A

nd this is exactly why I signed my 16-yr old son up for a Teen Safe Driving course at Willon Springs Raceway in California as soon as he got his drivers license ($450). In the course, they taught a lot of vehicle control and had the students practice on the dry AND wet skidpad. He had a great time learning to drive and I feel better knowing that he at leasst has the knowledge and experience to know to counter-steer into a skid.

Might just keep my son and my X5 out of the neighbors front lawn!


Agent009Agent009 - 4/15/2010 4:40:13 PM
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I commend you on that. Exposure is the key.


NannerPusNannerPus - 4/15/2010 7:01:13 PM
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'We Have Taught A Generation To Be "Dynamically Challenge"'

Yes and also "gramatically challenged" as well as "punctuationally challenged".








DeeBDeeB - 4/15/2010 8:48:02 PM
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"Dynamically Challenge"?

With this I'm more worried about our general education than our driver's education.


SauberF1SauberF1 - 4/16/2010 11:43:23 AM
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Thanks to Agent009 for one of the most thoughtful and pertinent on the site in a while. The Toyota/Lexus fiascos with the government and Consumer Reports point to larger problems that are becoming increasingly endemic in our society. Such issues aren't just restricted to the auto industry, but also nutrition, education, government, and a number of other institutions.
Americans need to start taking responsibility for themselves, their actions, their children, their finances - their lives in general. What will it take for Americans to start blaming everyone else and take responsibility for themselves? Whatever it is, I fear that we won't see it come along for a while yet to come.


MNmtbMNmtb - 4/16/2010 12:38:44 PM
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My father was a race car driver and knew the value of controlling a car rather than driving a car. Before I could get my license he made me do doughnuts in the snow, skid, basically drive the car out of control so I could learn how to control it.

I have told my wife for years, that the kids are going to a driving school in order to get their license. It is sooooo very important to me that they know how to handle situations behind the wheel rather than just where the brake, gas and volume knob is.


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