Sound Familiar? Crash Data Suggests DRIVER Error In Toyota Accidents

Sound Familiar? Crash Data Suggests DRIVER Error In Toyota Accidents
In yet another move that seems to hint that this Toyota "pedalgate," or as one publication put it "beige bites back," may be overblown, it turns out the crash data being analyzed by the U.S. Department of Transportation may be showing something to the tune of driver error.

Not that this wasn't suggested before in a New York Times op-ed piece by one of the investigators who worked on the Audi 5000 controversy.

It isn't as if we haven't been entirely sure about it either, as you can see HERE and HERE as well.

So, now what?

**For the full details of the latest findings surrounding Toyota, click "Read Article" to hear more about the crash data findings


The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people familiar with the findings said.

The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap accelerator pedals to the floor.

The findings by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration involve a sample of reports in which a driver of a Toyota vehicle said the brakes were depressed but failed to stop the car from accelerating and ultimately crashing...


[Source: The Wall Street Journal]








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kornholiokornholio - 7/13/2010 8:07:18 PM
+5 Boost
OK fill in the blank with another lame excuse:
"The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, ____________________"


kornholiokornholio - 7/13/2010 8:08:01 PM
+4 Boost
the driver was high on crack


KKO84KKO84 - 7/14/2010 1:17:15 PM
+1 Boost
How dare you blame the American consumers! They can do no wrong! Double floor mats lead to double protection! /end sarcasm.


DinamoRDinamoR - 7/13/2010 9:42:47 PM
+3 Boost
effing retarded americans. I swear to god this nation is so stupid. Bush, Fox News, Glenn Beck, now this. This is the only country in the world where on a chain saw it says "do not stop the chain with your hands". Cuz you know some retard will do that and then sue the manufacturer. So they floored the accelerator intead of hitting brakes? hahahaha


tangotango - 7/13/2010 10:31:18 PM
+10 Boost
I am no fan of Toyota with its boring ass cars, but these stunts by these money-grubbing bastards and bitches was just wrong. There was NEVER anything wrong with these cars and everybody knew it. My wife just picked up her brand new Toyota last week and neither of us have any worry whatsoever.


r15mohdr15mohd - 7/13/2010 10:34:40 PM
+7 Boost
i wonder how long it takes 009 to question this articles merit...hate to say it 009 but, told you so! i take it back, i LOVE saying it

stupid drivers...it was all an attempt to diminish toyota's sales so the big 3 could look better. let's see who'll get the last laugh


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 7/13/2010 11:34:56 PM
-7 Boost
Ok class please read again the article......

The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that the throttles were wide open and the brakes weren't engaged at the time of the crash, people familiar with the findings said.

The early results suggest that SOME drivers who said their Toyotas and Lexuses surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator when they intended to jam on the brakes.

But the findings—part of a broad, ongoing federal investigation into Toyota's recalls—DON'T EXONERATE the car maker from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration in its vehicles: "sticky" accelerator pedals that don't return to idle and floor mats that can trap accelerators to the floor.

Now if read correctly you will find that I put in caps a few key words from the article.


r15mohdr15mohd - 7/13/2010 11:44:51 PM
+5 Boost
it must have been some real super glue on those pedals to have you not being able to pull yur foot off to slam on the brakes.

or how about adding the extra mats on top of the existing OEM floor mats prevent them from getting dirty...



how many proven incidents are due to these "exonerations"?

only one so far is the ES350 by the police officer but he added additional floor mats on top of the OEM ones, bringing in driver's error as the fault for the incident.


any more excuses?


r15mohdr15mohd - 7/13/2010 11:49:11 PM
+4 Boost
"it must have been some real super glue on those pedals to have you not being able to pull yur foot off to slam on the brakes."

just wanted to clarify...it was sarcasm that was noted. -the hate-toyota-spies bashing was foreseen ;)

the foot actually being stuck to the pedal was not in question during the testing, however it still doesnt explain why the DRIVER could not step on the brakes for slowing the car down






800over800over - 7/14/2010 12:40:27 PM
+2 Boost
Uaw You MORON.....they're only talking about people who claimed to have hit the brakes when they in fact didn't. This doesn't exonerate the other issue because they weren't looking into that....




tattedtwicetattedtwice - 7/14/2010 1:55:17 AM
-3 Boost
The only error the drivers made was purchasing the lamest of cars from the lamest car company on american soil.


g2okg2ok - 7/14/2010 6:48:34 AM
+6 Boost
All these money grubbing assholes have moved on to trying to sue Apple over signal issues.


OccarnutOccarnut - 7/14/2010 6:57:38 AM
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Where is Gloria Allred when you need her...and I mean to represent us NON Toyexus drivers...aren't we the real victims here? There must be a class action suit here somplace...


kpaxxkpaxx - 7/14/2010 8:15:13 AM
-5 Boost
How do we know the data from the data recorders is correct? Is the data recorder a true representation of what happened?


als723als723 - 7/14/2010 11:19:18 AM
+2 Boost
The only thing that should prevent people from buying Toyota is fear of falling asleep at the wheel from how boring they are... the cars a still probably the safest cars on the road (if not about the same as Honda), the most reliable, and with Honda hold some of the best resale value in the market.

This was a huge sham.


sdcarguysdcarguy - 7/14/2010 2:53:21 PM
-3 Boost
Yes, drivers should have know that accelerators got stuck. They should also have known that it required 3 seconds of depressing the start stop button to kill the engine. And they should have know that the car's brakes are too weak to overcome the engine failing that. Man are these drivers stupid or what?


I95SPEEDINGTICKETSI95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 7/14/2010 8:09:07 PM
+3 Boost
You are a F*£@ING IDIOT.


1BAD67C101BAD67C10 - 7/14/2010 5:59:14 PM
-2 Boost
toyota changing black box info agian just take it like a man say they where wrong and move on dont blame the driver recall all the ecms and change them thats what is wrong with there cars


TominNHTominNH - 7/14/2010 6:40:02 PM
+2 Boost
Right from the beginning, I always thought it was river error. One HAS to keep the driver's floor mat in place. Otherwise, it will crawl under/over the accelerator or brake pedal. My last 4 cars were Camrys or Solaras and NEVER had any kind of problem. And I always made SURE the floor mat was secure in its proper place! It was a sham indeed!!!


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