Autobild: 550i wins against MB E500, Audi S6, and Jaguar XF

Autobild: 550i wins against MB E500, Audi S6, and Jaguar XF
1st place - BMW 550i

V8, biturbo
407 hp, 600 Nm
8-speed-aut.
Weight: 2013 kg
Vmax.: 250 km/h (limited)
0-100 km/h in 5,0 s
0-200 km/h in 16,7 s
Braking 100-0 km/h (warm): 38,1 m (ouch!)
Price: €70.500,-


2nd place - Mercedes-Benz E500

V8
388 hp, 530 Nm
7-speed-aut.
Weight: 1828 kg
Vmax.: 250 km/h (limited)
0-100 km/h in 5,2 s
0-200 km/h in 18,7 s
Braking 100-0 km/h (warm): 35,7
Price: €68.068,-


3rd place - Audi S6

V10
435 hp, 540 Nm
6-speed-aut.
Weight: 1990 kg
Vmax.: 250 km/h (limited)
0-100 km/h in 6,0 s
0-200 km/h in 20,2 s
Braking 100-0 km/h (warm): 35,5
Price: €85.000,-


4th place - Jaguar XF

V8
385 hp, 515 Nm
6-speed-aut.
Weight: 1894 kg
Vmax.: 250 km/h (limited)
0-100 km/h in 5,7 s
0-200 km/h in 19,8 s
Braking 100-0 km/h (warm): 35,2
Price: €68.800,-

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JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/19/2010 4:16:19 PM
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I didn't realize the S6 was that slow. And before I get deboosted to negative infinity, I am saying that with honest surprise -- I was under the impression from other reviews that it was much quicker. Those acceleration times would put it behind a 2010 535i or right on pace with Audi's own A6 3.0T. Does anyone read German? Was something wrong with the car?


chewychewy - 7/19/2010 4:28:45 PM
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Those times don't include rollout like American magazines do. So American magazine times are always quicker. The S6 is quicker than the A6 3.0T, but it always has been a little slower in the straight line than expected.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/19/2010 4:36:51 PM
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Well Edmunds also got a similar time for the "more performance oriented" version of the A6 as well so American test or not its way to slow to have that much horsepower, a V10, special badges, and cost that much. fail...


94geo94geo - 7/19/2010 4:34:46 PM
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The benz and the jaguar seem very evenly matched on price, power, and wight yet the benz is quicker.. must the due to the 8 speed transmission compared to the jaguars 6 spd.


94geo94geo - 7/19/2010 4:35:30 PM
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correction the MB has a 7 spd.


giants10giants10 - 7/19/2010 6:00:29 PM
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What a bunch of bs, that magazine is obviously a bunch of clowns who even wrote the XJ instead of XF. They obviously got paid off to make the 550 win, because they did not even put a supercharged XF against it, the car that is meant to compete with a 550.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/19/2010 6:58:22 PM
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If you take a moment to actually read the data instead of just blindly complaining how unfair the test was, you'll notice the regular XF has similar power and, most importantly, a similar price compared to the 550i and E550. So explain why the more expensive supercharged model should have been used instead?


rumnycrumnyc - 7/20/2010 3:40:07 AM
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XF-R (the supercharged one) competes with M5/MB AMG/RS6. So the magazine compared the top of the "normal" series range of each of the models.


MSP6MSP6 - 7/19/2010 6:57:46 PM
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There's one thing I don't like about the 550i, it's weight.



giants10giants10 - 7/19/2010 7:39:12 PM
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Okay no problem, why does the e63 and m5 compete with a 80 thousand dollar XFR then, please explain that. Thanks.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/19/2010 7:55:37 PM
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Probably because they're each the most exclusive, most expensive, raciest models of cars that all compete in the same segment, and they are priced similarly to one another. Did that really need explaining?


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/19/2010 11:57:55 PM
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what an excuse it is also true that many European cars have more horsepower than their American equivalent in some cases...and in some cases additionally are quicker. Ironically all times here match their American equivalent there have been mag or site test showing similar times so your point is really irrelevant. Along with the fact that if you dont care about times than having a V8 midsize sedan is completely useless and having a V10 midsize sedan thats as fast as a V6 is even more pointless your making more an argument against these cars in general....


JB007JB007 - 7/20/2010 4:59:29 AM
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Yeah because you all drive so fast in the US !!


giants10giants10 - 7/19/2010 10:47:12 PM
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Priced similarly?? LOL, the xfr is 80, m5 is over 90 and the e63 is over 100k. Lets start comparing a dodge neon to a 550 now also.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/20/2010 8:16:05 AM
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The XFR is $80k, the M5 and E63 start in the mid-$80's. So yes, "priced similarly".


VISOVISO - 7/20/2010 1:21:04 AM
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The S6 does 0-60 at 5.1 sec with other magazines in previous review getting 4.9 sec. No one goes by Edmunds time as everyone knows there times are always off. So there is nothing fail about it! Still one of the best out there. You're too funny bmwdrv. Who cuts your paycheck again? Oh yeah, BMW. Why bother with your posts.


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 7/20/2010 1:21:23 PM
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you tell me you keeping responding to them with your unfounded biased nonsense regardless of what you think this overpriced utterly useless cars time should be it still is a car getting high 5s at best the last generation M5 with similar power and a V8 was faster than the current S6 and its regular V8 model cant even run with the V6s in its class again whats the point. Even if it was faster these times and was getting low 5s and its not as proven more than once, it still would be incredibly slow for that much power and a V10 thats 535i or 740i times lol what a joke


Yonder7Yonder7 - 7/20/2010 8:19:08 AM
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BMW is very heavy...a mean, almost 200kg more than the Benz means for me a secure car or a lot of gadgets...


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/20/2010 12:31:34 PM
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the Benz will gain some weight when they replace the current engine with the new 4.7L and 5.5L twin turbo V8's.


carE10carE10 - 7/20/2010 1:06:13 PM
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The BMW was equipped with 4 wheel steering, and adaptive suspension, which explains the weight.


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 7/20/2010 12:47:41 PM
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I've been reading comparos for 30 years now and the one thing I have noticed is that the newest car wins 90% of the time. The 5 Series is the flavor of the month until the Benz debuts the new powertrains. Just like the XF was the flavor until the Benz came out. And the Audi was until whatever came out after it.
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BondMI6BondMI6 - 7/20/2010 4:17:04 PM
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Definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer Bmwdrvr or maybe its your anti Audi bias talking- imagine that.....
Are you going to rely on ONE mag test to be a definitive answer to the S6 0-60 time? Even JRobUSC wondered what's up with that. I have driven the S6 and it def is faster. When it came out older mag issues pegged it at 4.8 sec's as does the Audi AG. I would say its around that- maybe 5 sec's.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/20/2010 7:47:18 PM
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"even JRobUSC"? I'll admit I'm a BMW guy first and foremost but you do know I like Audi's, right (and plenty of other brands)? I am a car fan, whatever the brand. I just don't like blind fanboyism, which unfortunately this site is full of (that includes BMW).


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 7/20/2010 5:49:38 PM
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Autobild just has problems with it's timing. My pick in this order would be the S6, BMW, MB, after that who cares.

Here is the 0-100km for the S6 right off Audi's German website:

Beschleunigung 0-100 km/h5,2 s

.2 seconds slower than the bimmer that has more torque. Well, the S6 is lighter. It has less gears to go through. It gets all the power to the ground without having to turn the traction control off (Quattro). The engine is naturally aspirated. The car is bigger. The interior/exterior fit and finish is better. It's safer because it stops faster. Those 3 meters could mean life or death if you buy a 550i over an S6. etc......

Yeah, I think the logical decision would be third place.LMAO I think Autobild is a great magazine. But sometimes just like BMW and MB, they just don't have a f------ clue!


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/20/2010 8:03:12 PM
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you can also get a 550i xDrive in a couple months, with the torque vectoring diff, which will be quicker than the regular 550i and outhandle it, and it'll be about 13k Euros less than the S6.


giants10giants10 - 7/20/2010 5:50:15 PM
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Jrob you gotta be the most ignorant person i ever seen, the xfr is fully loaded at 80 you do know that right? No one gets a e63 or m5 without any packages, what a joke.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/20/2010 7:58:57 PM
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Really? Because there's an M5 at my local dealer with an MSRP of $88275. Is that "exactly" $80k like the Jag? No, but it's pretty close, and someone who can spend $80k on a car can also spend $90k. Besides, it's not BMW's or Benz's fault that Jaguar chooses to charge less for that one model -- as you can see in the comparison test this thread was about in the first place, the Jaguar XF is priced similarly to the 550i and E550 and has similar power output. The Jaguar R, BMW M, Mercedes AMG, and Audi RS models are the highest models of the respective vehicles and all compete with one another, whether you like it or not. The prices might not be exactly the same, but they're usually pretty close. Sometimes one is more than the others, sometimes one is less than all the others. That's life, it doesn't change the fact that they're competitors.


giants10giants10 - 7/20/2010 9:14:44 PM
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Gotta love the bmw fanyboys on this site, hilarious stuff, i got an x5m on order and i am not even a bmw fanboy. You were the one who said the xf and 550 has nearly the same price, when clearly the 550i and the supercharged xf is nearly the same price so what the hell are you talking about. If the XFR competes with the m5 then the freaking 550 competes with the SUPERCHARGED xf, so ignorant.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/21/2010 1:24:50 AM
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Uh huh. Apparently you can't read. Check the article above one more time. Price and output? Similar (385hp vs 400hp, 68k euros vs. 70k euros). Enjoy that X5 M you have on order.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/21/2010 1:26:41 AM
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Sorry, I meant "enjoy the X5 M you 'got on order'."


Autoegr525Autoegr525 - 7/20/2010 11:47:06 PM
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For every major advance BMW makes with their motors, they add a couple hundred pounds to the curb weight. These cars are big enough, when does it stop? The 3 series is already as big as a mid-90's 5 series (on the inside at least), and the next gen car looks enormous in spy pics...I wish more companies would follow Porsche's lead with the new Cayenne...we don't need/want all the fluff!


giants10giants10 - 7/21/2010 8:11:07 PM
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Jrobusc whats your email i will send you pics of my car when i get it, with a sign on it that says you're a freaking douchebag.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 7/22/2010 3:28:24 PM
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feel free. I'll still be right and you'll still be wrong about everything that was said above.


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