G.M.’s Electric Lemon

G.M.’s Electric Lemon
GENERAL MOTORS introduced America to the Chevrolet Volt at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show as a low-slung concept car that would someday be the future of motorized transportation. It would go 40 miles on battery power alone, promised G.M., after which it would create its own electricity with a gas engine. Three and a half years — and one government-assisted bankruptcy later — G.M. is bringing a Volt to market that makes good on those two promises. The problem is, well, everything else. For starters, G.M.’s vision turned into a car that costs $41,000 before relevant tax breaks ... but after billions of dollars of government loans and grants for the Volt’s development and production. And instead of the sleek coupe of 2007, it looks suspiciously similar to a Toyota Prius. It also requires premium gasoline, seats only four people (the battery runs down the center of the car, preventing a rear bench) and has less head and leg room than the $17,000 Chevrolet Cruze, which is more or less the non-electric version of the Volt.
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tangotango - 8/1/2010 1:37:49 AM
+13 Boost
This is irresponsible journalism the kind we usually see on Fox News. Several errors in this article. Let us list them.

1) The Volt looks like a Prius? Really? I don't wear glasses, but perhaps I should invest in some. Or maybe the author should. Either way, one of us is frigging blind. Since I passed my last medical with flying colours, you do the math...

2) The Volt is effectively a Chevrolet Cruze. Okay, fine I will give him that. But isn't the Lexus HS250h effectively a Scion tC? The price difference between those two are basically the same as for the Cruze/Volt, with much less difference in economy. Moving on.

3) So GM is making money on the Volt? Really? Not according to every single release from GM over the past few months. GM loses money on every one built. FACT.

4) So Prius is the best selling Toyota model, after the Camry? Where is this moron getting his information from? The Camry has been the best-selling car in the United States for the last I-don't-know-how-many years. For June this year Camry was the best selling car, once again (in spite of the bad press Toyota has recieved) at 28,435 units. News flash, the Prius wasn't even in the top 15.

5) GM has no plan to turn the Volt into a mass-market icon? What this turd doesn't seem to understand is that the leaps that GM is taking with the Volt is far larger than what Toyota took with the Prius. For starters, when Toyota first sold the Prius they were (and arguably still are) the best built line of vehicles in the world. GM, was closer to the bottom of that barrel. So credit where credit is due, they are taking a huge risk. But they have to start somewhere. For the first time in a long time GM isn't playing catch up, but they are setting a new trend. That's what people, fans and detractors, have been begging for ages. Now that they are delivering, idiots like Niedermeyer complain.

6) Genius boy is stressing that GM was bailed out. Is that supposed to be breaking news? He somehow fails to mention the money that Toyota was asking the Japanese government for. How convenient.

7) The Volt is "hastily developed". So how long exactly would Niedermeyer consider to be a fair timeframe for proper development? This guy is so confused it's not even funny.


0to600to60 - 8/1/2010 8:01:15 PM
+3 Boost
Enforcement, lol...that was sarcasm, right???


0to600to60 - 8/2/2010 10:38:32 AM
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And I guess Fox is the only station that gets it right??? Out of all of them, ONLY Fox????? Cant possibly be the other way around???? LOL!


DinamoRDinamoR - 8/2/2010 12:38:54 PM
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hahaha wow somebody thinks faux noise is real journalism. If it is, so is the media in North Korea. USA main stream media (all of it: faux, cnn, nbc) has not done real journalism since 1980s when Reagan gutted the FCC regulations. All of them are propaganda for speical interests. You have to literally be braindead to think any of them are real journalism, espeically faux "news". Rofl.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 8/1/2010 9:31:28 AM
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I cant believe one could try to take apart a car such as this. It's the first of it's kind a new tech so yes the price may seam a little steep no it looks nothing like the prius in facts it looks 10x better and has a longer warranty than many conventional cars! This guy is just shouting sour grapes because he wanted GM and the Volt to fail but we will not.


PlanBPlanB - 8/1/2010 10:14:08 PM
+3 Boost
I absolutely agree. The drivetrain in the Volt is a revolution of sorts and this guy fails to recognize this fact or is just completely ignoring it for the sake of getting heated responses. In the end, you may not like Volt for its styling or its price but at least realize that this car is breaking down a few barriers that needed to be broken down, its at the forefront of something big and that also includes the Nissan Leaf.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 8/1/2010 9:41:28 AM
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On second thought how can we take this "paid blogger" Edward Nidermeyer serious when he owns only Asian cars?


"Ed suddenly remembered that cars are way cooler than politics, and he joined TTAC as a blogger and writer in early 2008. A year and a half later he was asked to replace the site’s founder, Robert Farago, as TTAC’s Editor-in-Chief. His daily drivers are a 2009 Impreza Wagon, a 1992 Toyota Pickup, and a 1972 Honda 350 Scrambler."


GodfatherSHMGodfatherSHM - 8/1/2010 10:40:06 AM
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tango your comment lost relevance when you started it off with the comment about Fox News...you could have made your points with out an attempt at a dig on a news station...

in the article it states that GM has cut production from 60k to 10k...in a market where Toyota has sold 1.6 million Prius's, and Honda's new Insight has sold 30k in it's first year, 10k will not even make a dent. GM is attempting to create a demand on a vehicle that does not have it. In the current economic situation 41k - rebates is not financially responsible for this car. And what happens once the government rebates are gone? sticker prices is 41k and NO ONE will pay that for this generation of the vehicle.


delandelan - 8/1/2010 5:17:49 PM
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And similarly, your post lost relevance when you referred to Fox news as a "news" station.


GodfatherSHMGodfatherSHM - 8/1/2010 10:45:49 AM
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oh...and wake up guys, it looks very similar to the Prius. Now it is not as close as the Insight is, that looks like a rebadged Prius. But the Prius and the volt have EXTREMELY similar likenesses. The Opel version even more. The original concept looked more like the Camaro, and they should have stuck with that design, but they went to the fastback design that all of these vehicles are doing.


0to600to60 - 8/1/2010 8:04:13 PM
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who are these 2 nut jobs?


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 8/1/2010 10:00:16 PM
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"who are these 2 nut jobs?"
The return of Bush and Cheney lol


globaltraderglobaltrader - 8/1/2010 12:51:14 PM
+10 Boost
Well said Tango--from startTo finish!!


dodgedartdodgedart - 8/1/2010 11:13:22 PM
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Wow. Unproven new GM powertrain technology dressed in something that looks like a Cirrus/Prius. You know, the Chrysler stuff from the mid 90's looks suspiciously like four door camaros from the same era. People bought the Taurus too. It took GM 14+ years of "refinement" until the Cavalier became Cobalt, got to Nurburgring, discontinued, and production extended for Cash4Clunkers customers. Check back in five years. I'll stick with a slant 6 and no nylon timing sprockets please.


bfghemicudabfghemicuda - 8/2/2010 3:54:03 PM
-1 Boost
Amen brother


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 8/2/2010 6:45:45 PM
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bfghemicuda Br careful about what you say.


bfghemicudabfghemicuda - 8/2/2010 11:16:09 PM
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Uaw-lax. Why are you the site monitor?


BondMI6BondMI6 - 8/2/2010 2:36:41 AM
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Wow, lots of Fox News bashing.

Considering they are by FAR (Google the ratings)the most watched news show vs. the competition they must be doing something right-regardless of what political views you have.


bfghemicudabfghemicuda - 8/2/2010 3:55:30 PM
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Bond- you beat me to it.


0to600to60 - 8/2/2010 10:40:03 AM
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The toyota camry is also the best selling car in America. And has been for quite some time...


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 8/2/2010 12:20:52 PM
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So to sum it up that means most Americans are just sheeple and need to stay in the flock no matter how uninspiring a car or "news" center is.

No thank you. You cant possably WANT to drive or Camry or be republican and earn less than 200k a year.


0to600to60 - 8/2/2010 1:21:51 PM
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this was in response to BOndMI6. So I ask, whats your point?


GodfatherSHMGodfatherSHM - 8/2/2010 10:55:39 PM
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i earn WAY less than 200k, in fact less than 40k and my wife and me both own Camry's and love them. Wouldn't trade the car for anything. Never had any problems.

Sheeple is how Obama got elected in the first place, and some in a union calling other people sheeple is pretty ironic if you ask me.


upwardsupwards - 8/3/2010 9:10:59 AM
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If you earn less than 40k, than the GOP is not your friend and dose not have you in their best interest. I am a high earner and the tax brakes i receive are simply amazing but not necessary. Set up by the Republicans. I can more easily put food on my table and pay the bills than someone who only makes 40k yearly so whit this said currently the way our country is operating we are failing if the masses are going hungry cant see the dentist or doctor. Are you sure you are a Republican?


GodfatherSHMGodfatherSHM - 8/3/2010 10:31:06 AM
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I make under 40k, and I live a modest lifestyle. I do not have fancy items, I do not even have cable. I work 40+ hours a week for a modest wage, and serve in the National Guard. I am able to provide everything that my family needs, not wants.

That is why I drive a simple car that does what it is suppose to. Would I love the fancier things in life, sure. But that is why I work hard so that one day I can get to that point. Nothing is handed to me, I work hard for everything that I have. I come from a small business family and work in a small business. All of the taxes that have been forced on our businesses have come from the democrats, and I have watched as those higher taxes have only hurt and not helped build the businesses.

That is why I am conservative.


DinamoRDinamoR - 8/2/2010 12:41:17 PM
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All those handouts look really cheap compared to what big oil gets. Pentagon spends billions in protecting oil shipping routes around the world. We pay for oil wars (like the gulf war, which was about protecting oil supply from Kuwait). And lets not even mention that companies like Exxon have barely paid any taxes in America in years, though making the highest profits any company has ever made.

This article is a joke right? Like something I'd hear on Faux News (if I watched that garbage that is)


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