Is The LFA Really Worth The Price Of TWO 911 Turbos?

Honestly i think not... i get the turbo s for that money, and plenty of gas with the rest...

You bet your sweet !*@$%^! it is........

To those who are buying them the answer is obviously Yes.

It's a lot more exclusive than a 911, so there's no way to really quantify that. The better question is "is the LF-A worth $150k (66%) more than a Ferrari F458 Italia?" And to that the answer is a resounding "no". Lexus's saving grace with the LF-A is that anyone rich enough to buy these cars is rich enough to get an LF-A too for their collection.

Is the VW Reventon really worth four 458's or more than an Enzo?

no

Is the VW Reventon really worth four 458's or more than an Enzo?

no

Driving around south beach I would rather be in the LFA.............

I agree the LFA is very exclusive much more so than a 911 and even if it happens to be a sales flop(which I guess mynumbers it wont be) its destined to be a classic collector car. It just has way more presence and sense of occasion than a 911 I see at least 1 or 2 sometimes 3 911s on the way to work I may never see an LFA. The better question is the 911 turbo worth the extra $40 - $50,000 over a GTR....a car like the LFA really is out of the Porsches league it just has to many non objective things that justify its price tag.

nope, rip off, it's heavier then a z06 with a smaller engine... this thing is the most over hyped super car I have ever seen. Just because you can pile on 500-600lbs more carbon fiber then the next carbon monocoqued car doesn't mean it's worth more... maybe worth more to build... but that's only because the designers must have been smoking some skinny cigarettes.

You are a complete idiot. Technology cost money. Especially when its the first of its kind. It gradually becomes cheaper and more effective over time. The Corvette has not been for the most part changed since the late C4 and that is why its cheap. The LFA is the first of its kind using technology that most automakers dont even use.

The real problem here is that many on this site has failed Economics and did not remember the lesson on 'Economy of Scale'...

"There are factors that cause a producer’s average cost per unit to fall as the scale of output is increased."

This clearly states the relationship betweem limited production and cost. The ROI for the LFA is controlled by the Investment put into the project and the number of units produced to recoup that investment + any potential for profit. In most cases you will target your price point according to any competitive products, or the case might be thate you believe you provide something unique and believe that a higher premium can be acheived. In most cases it has nothing to do with or is directly related to 0-60 times or 1/4 mile times...regardless of what the media hype wants you to believe.

veyron is wrong, the C5 corvette debuted the hydroformed frame rails and monocoque design. The C4 'birdcage' was a more traditional (for the time) unibody design.

Also the C6 generation does have several upgrades over the C5, but why let facts get in the way of your bashing?

I didn't make a comment on the price so why are you throwing that in my face, I was merely pointing out how poorly it must be designed if they had to use enough carbon fiber in the car to make it weigh more then a corvette with a massive 7 liter motor... also, I call bull shit on you veyron, what in the LFA is not available in any other car/super car? A digital tach because the standard corrolla tachometer didn't work? Sport bikes rev far higher and faster then the LFA and they do not need them, it just goes to show that Lexus was picking through Toyota's used parts bin when designing this "super" car.

@Joe_Limon

I guess you could have taken my comment 1 of 2 ways...as an attack against you personally or as a counterpoint to the question in general...in hindsight I could have posted it as a reply to any number of comments made here..or as a separate comment of its own...your choice

Is The 911 Turbo Really Worth More that The Price Of TWO GT-Rs?

Not that I'm a big GT-R fan but...Touché!

Hmm, would you rather have one 911 turbo and TWO GTRs? Or just 4 GTRs.

Would you rather have one LFA and TWO 911 turbos? Or just 4 911s.

Hmm I would rather have a McLaren MP4-12c and a rowdy vacation in Vegas with the 125,000 left over as spending cash for the "entertainment!"

No way the Lexus is worth 2 911 Turbos. True the Lexus is a whole lot more exclusive. But its probably less driveable in real world application. You'd get far less use out of it and you'd end up being just another rich jerk with more money than driving ability. Generally Porsche people drive their cars. The Lexus will be driven every now and then or not at all. If you buy a Turbo, you'll drive it...period.
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A $375,000 Toyota or two Porsche Turbos? Get the 997 Turbo S.

Well the original 911 started life as simply modified VW bettle...go figure..., lol and the irony of your statement is that for years they have simply been updating albeit heavily the originals platform. While new platforms ahve came in between it doesnt negate the fact that the "classic porsche" formula was derived from a VW Bug........Not knocking the Porsche but if your going to knock a $375,000 supercar that spent years in development, that doesnt share anything with any other vehicle and introduced new tech to the company as simply a $375,000 Toyota be fair and call the 911 what it is. WHich is why I dont knock Hyundais attempt at luxury car status who knows what will come of it years from now

BMWDRVR, it sure is refreshing to hear some rational well thought out comments from time to time here.

definitely not.

it can't even match the zero to sixty of an M3, never mind the low 3s of a 911 turbo. without brake torquing the engine, car mags haven't gotten better and low 4s out of the LFA. that's pathetic for a car that claims to be a ferrari or lambo alternative.

I dont care if the LF-A is worth 2 911s or not. My concern is that the LF-A isn't worth the $375,000 asking price.

Unlike MOST other supercars, the LFA is built entirely from the ground up. EVERY part in the LFA save for the nav system is bespoke to the LFA. You certainly don't get that kind of exclusivity in your run-of-the-mill 911 on steroids, the Lambos (VAG part bins) and Ferraris (Maserati parts), or even the Zonda (AMG) for that matter.

and despite all that, they can't match the acceleration of a lowly $75,000 M3. sad, very sad. owners will feel like a putz when one of thousands of M cars can take them.

You're certainly proving yourself as one poor delusional bimmer fanboy. Keep this up and maybe one day your 318ti will match the acceleration of a Prius.

"You certainly don't get that kind of exclusivity in your run-of-the-mill 911 on steroids, the Lambos (VAG part bins) and Ferraris (Maserati parts), or even the Zonda (AMG) for that matter."


Excuse me, but what the hell isn't exclusive about a Zonda, Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche? Just because some of these cars use parts from different manufacturers makes them less exclusive? Is that what you're saying?

THAT'S RETARDED.

You must be one of those diehard Lexus fanboys trying to defend the LF-A at all costs. Wow, a Ferrari isn't exclusive because it uses parts from Maseratis. A Zonda isn't exclusive because it uses an AMG engine. This is some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. What the hell do parts-sharing have to do with exclusivity?

Let's see, by using your retarded logic, I guess the Lexus LS isn't exclusive since it uses the same seat button controls found in the TOYOTA LANDCRUISER. Oh, and did you know that your LF-A uses the same screws that hold together a Yaris and Corolla?

Your logic is retarded. There's no other way to say it.

Regardless of how Porsche started, at the end of the day it is still a $375,000 Toyota that is 5 years late to market. And you may want to read the question posed in the headline again. And the answer is still no. The
new McLaren MP4-12C is a far more interesting proposition when it arrives.

The root of the question is whether the LFA is worth the money as compared to the alternatives - and my answer is no, its not worth the money as compared to the alternatives.

However, that is just my opinion. Clearly, there are enough people who have a differing opinion as the car has sold out. Thus, at the end of the day, the buyers have spoken and the LFA has been deemed to be worth the price. End of discussion.

God no and it isn't even close

No, of course not. Its a marketing strategy to ploy the "elite product differential" in the buyers' mind. "They have have own carbon fiber loom," as many would say. And I would say to them so what? I guess if its a "break even price" then it must have been to compensate for their lack of spending and investment skills. Nevertheless, this car is not worth this amount of money. Great car though.

When Toyota build a car by sharing platforms and powertrains it's called being cheap and cost cutting. And when Toyota build a car without any part sharing it's called lack of spending and investment skills. Make up your mind will you?

As always they say in literature it is not good to use sarcasm, because it makes people think that the actual sarcasm is the reality. "Their lack of spending and investment skills" Okay, question? Why in the world would they charge that much for a product to even "break even?" I'm coming from a business perspective. So you telling me they use their resources well? I think not.

Autospies has Standards????!?!?!?

A 911 is really more of an every day supercar, and the LF-A is more of a collector's wet dream... we're comparing a car with heritage and a proven track record, to a car with F1 inspired engineering and true super car presence... I'd take the LF-A, but then again, I can't afford either one, so it's irrelevant.

I find it kind of funny that so many people said no, that it's not worth two 911s. Yet Porche couldn't sell the 911 at that price.... so obviously the Lexus is "worth" more. How much more? Well they've exhausted the supply so I guess they're worth what people are willing to pay, which in this case is twice the cost of a 911.