RIGHT or WRONG: BIG BROTHER Gov't Can Track Vehicle GPS Without Warrant

In our day and age it seems that privacy continues to be fleeting. With social networks like Facebook, Twitter and FourSquare continuing to gain significant ground and allow users to post just about anything, everyone's door is open -- so to speak.

Any rational being would argue "Well, they signed up for it," which is true. But, I bet no one would sign up for this.

According to the case of USA v. Juan Pineda-Moreno, the DEA attached a device to the underside of Pineda-Moreno's vehicle and used the evidence against him to convict Pineda-Moreno to a 51-month sentence.

Now, according to a California ruling this is all gravy. Last time I checked there was a saying about two wrongs not making a right?

What say you, Spies?


...in the case of USA v. Pineda-Moreno, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit has determined that it is in bounds of our constitution for law-enforcement to sneak under a car parked in a private citizen’s driveway, attach a GPS device thereto, and track the locations of said vehicle – all without a warrant...

[Source: egmCarTech]









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uaw_lax - 8/28/2010 8:17:30 PM

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You better start by turning your cellphones of if you don't want to be tracked.

B7FAN - 8/29/2010 9:16:05 AM

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ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS WHATS MADE PUBLIC AND GOOD FOR THE GOVERNMENT MEANS ITS MADE GOOD FOR CIVILIANS. SO YOU BOLD UNDERCOVERS OUT THERE THAT THINK THEY ARE SLICK REMEMBER THE TERM "COUNTER SURVEILLANCE".....ITS NOT HARD

sold2early - 8/28/2010 8:44:09 PM

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Manufacturers of GPS blockers must be thrilled!

Larrybel2000 - 8/28/2010 8:49:49 PM

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Interesting reading. The link to the Article that explains it. http://llrmi.com/articles/legal_update/9th_gps_tracking.shtml. I don't like it but they can do it.

pepito66 - 8/28/2010 9:49:10 PM

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This is not new, We have to suppose that,networks,GPS system,computers and cameras all over. Those system have both functions to help us and to help them to check us and analize by profile according to the stupid quiz people answer in Facebook for example. Very close this is seen like a Eagle Eye Movie for real. So let see what happens next.lol..

veyron1001 - 8/28/2010 10:42:39 PM

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Another good excuse to buy a motorcycle.

quizz - 8/28/2010 10:53:52 PM

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This is only in the 9th Circuit (California appellate region) whereas in D.C., the appellate court there has ruled that you NEED a warrant first, so there is a conflict. The next step is to take it to the U.S. Supreme Court which is probably another 18 months away.

Spectator - 8/30/2010 5:18:02 PM

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Correct.

However we live in the era of the Patriot Act and I'm pretty sure Title 8 of that act enables any law enforcement organization to redefine anyone committing criminal activities domestically as being a "Terroist". Which then further enables the law enforcment organization to execute to the fullest extent Title 2 of the Patriot Act "Enhanced Surveillance Procedures".

So under the "Common Sense" act the US has had for years before the Patriot Act this would obviously be illegal. However who knows now.

tango - 8/29/2010 2:08:15 AM

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They can say whatever they want to say about legal this, legal that, rights this rights that...The US government (read that as military) owns GPS. They do with it what they feel like, when they feel like. If they have a need to keep a tab on any of your puny asses they can and will. People were always wondering what does the US government get out of having GPS be available to everybody for free. Well here we have it. Get used to it.

Larrybel2000 - 8/29/2010 11:02:11 AM

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Your rite tango. But there is a big difference between spying for the good of the Nation and some punk rouge DEA agents who think they are above the law.

Agent001 - 8/29/2010 3:54:09 PM

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Huu76,

But YOU hang out here.

So what does that make you?

HuuJOKE76? ;)

001

Agent001 - 8/29/2010 7:57:54 PM

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HuuJoke76,

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001

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