PUMPING IRON: 2010 Audi S5 Vs. 2011 BMW 335iS, Can Audi Top BMW, Again?

PUMPING IRON: 2010 Audi S5 Vs. 2011 BMW 335iS, Can Audi Top BMW, Again?
There is nothing quite like a battle to the death. The kinda thing where it is mano y mano. Two people are walking in but only one is stumbling out, probably covered in blood. For someone, it is light's out.

And you know what they say, right? Second place is the first loser.

So, when I decided to put the 2011 BMW 335iS up against the 2010 Audi S5 I knew that this would be one of those epic stories. Not quite like the Odyssey, that was lame. This would be much more fun.

It reminds me a lot of Pumping Iron with the showdown between Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lou Ferrigno. Although you have two greats standing before you, only one can get the trophy.


2011 BMW 335iS Photo Gallery




2010 Audi S5 Photo Gallery



Both cars are "limited" run models, both are good looking and both are quick. Let me make this clear. If anyone were to hand me the keys to either, I would be able to die a happy man. However, this is simply about the best.

In this corner we have the 2011 335iS. Harboring an inline six motor producing 320 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque, it has an exterior exhaust note that will make any enthusiast shiver with delight. It is a blend of a modern BMW with vintage Jaguar.

Paired up with a six-speed shift-it-yourself-you-wuss gearbox and boasting a rear-wheel drivetrain, the iS truly speaks to the driver.


2011 BMW 335iS Photo Gallery



In the other corner is the menacing Audi S5. With its 4.2 liter V8 slotted under its bonnet, it churns out 354 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque. Because it is a derivative of the R8 V8, which powered the B7 RS4 as well, it has that same guttural grunt.

It's kind of like the sound Lou makes when he is pushing out a couple of reps as his body is beginning to shut down. It is absolutely brutal. It is something a six-cylinder motor will never possess. Sorry, it's just not possible.

Here's a key difference though, our tester S5 is coupled with an automatic, tiptronic transmission. When you put the S5 into "Dynamic" mode, that means shifts come and go a the drop of a hat.

With that said, this is where each car begins to show their respective differences.


2010 Audi S5 Photo Gallery



A major part of me knows that even though the quick shifts are helpful by making the S5 accelerate, it just becomes clearer as time wears on, it just doesn't feel fast when taking off at low speeds. The shifting of the tiptronic in the most sporting mode was very fast, essentially dual-clutch like. Even with over 350 horsepower though, it does not make me feel that "What did I get myself into," kind of fun.

Additionally, when the clutch/shifter combination is as good as the iS' you really begin to notice the joy of driving a manual transmission. Sure, you can say "Well, you won't shift as fast as the Audi -- ever." Your point?

Unless you're competitively racing that does not matter, at all.

The best part about the 335's clutch pedal is that it does provide some give. The transmission will punish you if aren't smooth but it is more of a lovetap, where as the M3 would bite your head off. This means that even driving around town it is a cake walk.


2011 BMW 335iS Photo Gallery



It is quick to see that when you compare these two the iS' powerplant shines all around; however, the S5 only feels animalistic at high speeds or when you really are demanding the car to operate at 10/10ths. Otherwise, it seems a bit too clumsy and not light on its feet.

But it is when you push both into a corner that the character within both motorcars bleeds through.

When you put the BMW at its limits, it playfully asks you for "More, please." Meanwhile the Audi remains a bit too serious and "Nope, not gonna budge." Here's the thing though, I do not prefer one over the other simply because either are desired for its own reasons.

The Audi makes me feel as if I could enter into any turn at any speed and there would be grip, somewhere. Whatever the case, it will sniff out and use it to its advantage. Whether you are at speed or 15 MPH, the S5 has this chiseled out of a solid hunk of metal feel that is hard to come by in any auto these days. Even though sometimes it feels a bit overkill -- for the first time I appreciated Audi's speed-sensitive steering -- it is a relatively welcome feeling.


2010 Audi S5 Photo Gallery



On the other hand, the 335 feels more agile and ready to please you, whether that comes through going sideways or keeping its nose dead ahead.

Where the 335iS is like an energetic puppy that is giddy with joy, the S5 feels like you would have to grab it by the collar and drag it to its own bowl to eat.

I think this is largely due to the placement of the motor and the fact it boasts that honkin' V8. Now, if Audi had dropped that supercharged V6 -- from the B8 S4 -- into the S5 -- like it did with the convertible S5 -- I think Audi would have a much livelier product that bounces on its toes.

Without that supercharged six, I am pretty sure someone would say it is like driving with a paperweight tacked onto the hood of the S5.

The Takeaway


Now, I know most of you must be wondering "What's all this mean, exactly?"

Here's how it boils down. The 2011 BMW 335iS is the better car, overall, at the end of the day, if you want something that's going to make you turn around every time you put it in the garage and lock 'er up.
 
With that said though don't get too excited because I personally don't think its styling is going to win any awards anytime soon. No question this is the best E9x 3-Series yet -- from an exterior perspective -- because the tweaks do a lot to visually enhance the car.

But, then you get behind the steering wheel and it hits you. The interior is just cold. Case closed. Hopefully the next 3'er will take after its siblings, the F01 7-Series and F10 5-Series, and inherit more of a cockpit-like design.


2011 BMW 335iS Photo Gallery



Also, I could really do without the 335iS badges all over the place. A part of me feels sorry because I know so many writers and owners mislead brands with their "limited" editions into this trap because they used to bitch about the car not being special enough. This car should only have one iS badge, if any at all, and it should be on the back.

In comparison, after spending time with the S5 I did not feel an immense desire to hop in the driver's seat. With some cars, I practically have tears in my eyes when I hand back the key but with the S5 that's just not the case.

When I would lock it up for the night I didn't turn around to get one last look before retiring for some rest.

However, it is not a total catastrophe because the S5 makes a lot of sense as a grand tourer in tougher climates. Where the iS is a great fit for SoCal, the S5 is a better fit for New York.

Sure you can get a 335iS, throw Blizzaks on it and manage during the winter. But why not just put some all-seasons on the S5 year-round and trudge through the white stuff without any hassle, thanks to Quattro?

Then there are the S5's seats. Probably the best sport seats in any vehicle. Plenty of bolstering without overdoing it so they do not abuse you during a long journey, like the Cadillac CTS-V's Recaro seats.

If a 6'8, 250 pound man can drive around for four hours and not feel the urge to stretch or feel tired after the entire ordeal, that's quality.


2010 Audi S5 Photo Gallery



Meanwhile, even during short jaunts in the 335, I found myself being pinched.

But at the end of the day, this brings us back to Pumping Iron.

Although Ferrigno was a much more intriguing specimen, he just could not seal the deal. It was a valiant effort but there was something just a bit off that ruined the whole damn thing.

The same can be said for the S5 with its peculiar heft. I have never had to take such a long time to adjust to a press vehicle before. I know the car can be better and that's because when I drove the S5 convertible -- with the supercharged six-cylinder -- it felt great.

As long as that dated 4.2 liter V8 is shoehorned in the engine bay, the S5 will continue feeling compromised. Perhaps its because it is so clear that Audi held back on that motor by making it just par when it could have been stellar. Case in point: it is a stellar powerplant when tuned as seen in the R8 and RS4.

On the other hand, the BMW is like Arnold. A reigning champ that really does not seem to have to do too much in order to keep sticking at the top. In reality though, it is clawing desperately in order to maintain its lead.

Believe you me, it is growing narrower.

My proof? If the 335iS was offered in a sedan variant, I am 60/40 going for the Audi S4.

Sorry, BMW. Unlike Arnold you cannot just retire from the sport.


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rom64rom64 - 8/30/2010 9:12:04 AM
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Agent 00R, what model year is the Audi S5? I thought they already phased out the v8 and replaced it with the v6 in coupe form. What gives?


bmwdrvrbmwdrvr - 8/30/2010 9:21:19 AM
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lol where have you been, Only the S4 and S5 convertible got the new supercharged V6 the V8 was kept for the coupe. Also on a side note the 335i has beaten the S5 on more than one occasion not sure why the 335is wouldnt beat the S5 as well......so not sure about the rediculous(though not surprising) Audi Top BMW again...as the S5 hasnt beaten the 335i


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 9/1/2010 3:33:47 PM
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bmwdrvr-Just keep fooling yourself. "Well, BMW wins again and again". Like most car enthusiast, I'm still trying to figure at what. The 335iS handles good. I'll give it that. But the key point is does the BMW win at everyday drivability. F--- No!!! Most people are not wanting a track car to drive everyday to work, at least, if you do it will be a Porsche and not a BMW. I want a car the handles great, has adequate power, a great interior/exterior, creature comforts like Bluetooth/3D navigation, and a fit and finish with the best quality in materials. BMW is not the answer nor has it been since the 90's. Just get over it and sell yourselves to Fiat.


Agent00RAgent00R - 8/30/2010 9:42:14 AM
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@Inline

Well said!

And I see I am not the only Pumping Iron fan ;)


markanthony0419markanthony0419 - 8/30/2010 9:55:14 AM
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the king of the hill can only go down. (335i,is,m)he isnt as hungry as the wolf cuming up BUT when he wants the food its there. BMW just had a good meal.
well said arnold


LexSucksLexSucks - 8/30/2010 10:53:41 AM
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It takes an "S" badged Audi to compete with a regular 3-series? What's the significance of the "S" badge on the Audi S5? I remember when an "S" badged Audi competed against M3s. Audi seems to have brought the "S" badge downscale to the point where cant even beat a regular 3-series. I guess Audi needs the "S" badge to trick costumers into paying more money, and to also have the prospective buyers believe that they are getting an "M" class type vehicle. Which the S5 isn't.

Audi’s are the biggest ripoff of all the German car makes.



IamEvilHomerIamEvilHomer - 8/30/2010 12:31:41 PM
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where have you been? When the RS4 came out the S line went down scale and the M went up/ Remember the RS4 came out and the next day BMW announced the delay of the M3 and that it will be the same hp as Audi and then it took 2 more years for the M3

For years I sold Audi and the BMW fans said "real sports cars don't use turbo's" then the S4 came out with the V8 and BMW said btw "turbos are now cool with us"

RS>M
S>upgraded 5 series 3 series
A standard

Keep spending all that money on incentives so you don't lose market share / isn't it about 3 times Audi is spending?

Agent00R wants to have sex with BMW. If i took a shit and put a BMW logo on it Agent00R would think it taste good


bmwcsbmwcs - 8/30/2010 1:14:01 PM
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M>RS
IS>S
BMW>Audi.


JustaCarJustaCar - 8/30/2010 1:16:03 PM
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LexSucks you are so predictable. You come up with the most twisted illogical arguments to bash Audi. Now you're taking issue with the way Audi names their cars. Here's a news flash for you, people who make a decision to buy and Audi over a BMW are still going to do it regardless of what you think or what you say on Autospies, no matter how hard you try.


carE10carE10 - 8/30/2010 1:27:23 PM
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IamEvilHomer M is far superior to RS. The M3 is undefeated againts the RS5, in performance and everyday driveabilty. M3 is also just as fast as the v8 r8. The RS6 was a HUGE flop(way to heavy and understeered was the only handling characteristic),while the M5 remained the benchmark even into its later years in reguards to driving dynamics.


Agent00RAgent00R - 8/31/2010 12:04:25 AM
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@iamevilhomer

Pls. read the whole story before making a fool of yourself.

As I said, I adore the S4 and would pick it over a 335 and most likely over a 4-dr 335iS.

But the S5 does not stand a chance vs. the 335iS. Sorry.


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 9/1/2010 3:36:24 PM
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You have it backwards the BMW has dropped its M badge on the 335 to cpmete with the S cars and put its M badge on cars the compete with the RS5 Audi's.


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 9/1/2010 3:37:18 PM
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Bravo Agent00R.


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 9/1/2010 3:40:08 PM
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carE10-I think you need to go drive an M3. Everyday drivability and M3 being superior to a RS5. You really are losing what little credibilty you have.


lewishamiltonpimplewishamiltonpimp - 8/30/2010 1:31:40 PM
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Any enthusiast with a 335 is going to have a JB3/Proceed/GIAC/Dinan tune in there bringing it up to 375-400HP without any other mods. I just don't understand where BMW is going with the 335is. Just get a regular coupe, slap some rims and a zorst on it, get a tune and take the family to Europe with the change left over.


dannyjeffersdannyjeffers - 8/30/2010 1:49:32 PM
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what city is this?


Agent00RAgent00R - 9/1/2010 12:07:31 AM
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@danny

Weehawken, NJ


1BadMan1BadMan - 8/30/2010 2:58:16 PM
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What is up with this comparo? E92 M3 against the Audi B8 S5, not an E92 335is. A5/S5 are really good looking rides. Get a E92 335i, add Dinan Stage 2 software, aFe CAI, H&R anti-roll bars and full Supersprint exhaust with the Turbo Downpipes and go have some fun.


1uberaudiR81uberaudiR8 - 9/1/2010 3:43:49 PM
0 Boost
Or Buy the S5.


ChipChip - 8/30/2010 5:08:41 PM
+7 Boost
What's up with your fear of gays?

Makes you sound like a closeted one....



Nemesis07rNemesis07r - 8/30/2010 8:31:42 PM
+3 Boost
It's hard to have a debate with someone that types like they're in middle school with their "slang texting"


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 8/31/2010 10:12:25 AM
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I dont know why people dislike the interior of the BMW. I love it! At the end of the day, I get so annoyed with so many interior lights going off and beeping. The audi/acura/infiniti are like christmas lights, they are really nice looking, for about a month and there is a reason you take them down 11 months out of the year.
The BMW interior never gets old. I have driven both of these cars and I prefer the 335is because of the steering, handling and response of the engine. The audi steering to me is just too soft for a "sports" car. If this was my moms car, then I would understand.


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 8/31/2010 10:13:22 AM
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Agent 00R, use floor mats you filthy pig! GOD! I feel bad for Audi and BMW for letting you use these vehicles. jerk.


Agent00RAgent00R - 9/1/2010 12:04:43 AM
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@2ndbimmer

You fall into the category of some other AutoSpies commenters; you assume.

You know what they say about assuming, right?

That BMW gallery was shot by 001, number one. Secondly, that was how BMW provided 001 the vehicle AT THE PRESS LAUNCH.

Lastly, as you can see the Audi S5 was spotlessly clean the day of the shoot. Probably because I took it to one of the best hand car washes in the area.

So, pls. sit down and shut up.


TrumpedTrumped - 8/31/2010 11:41:44 AM
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Only in USA where people elect an Obama for president could one favor a BMW over AUDI . Not in Germany!!! Thats for sure. AUDI is far superior but
BMW make good cabs.


tattedtwicetattedtwice - 8/31/2010 9:02:49 PM
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And only in germany, where the people are robotic, mindless androids, could anyone favor a tarted-up volkswagen over a BMW. The ONLY way in which audi is 'far superior' is arrogance; theyre the only company with enough of it to charge MORE money than the REAL premium brands, for less performance and brand recognition.


1BadMan1BadMan - 8/31/2010 4:48:05 PM
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A software download will not void your warranty. The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects the consumer from this. Dealers & manufacturers will scare you but you can not give a product a warranty and then take it away. BMM AG listened to it's consumers for a long time, and had a large team watch aftermarket trend and with the marketing arm developed a series of products that fills an OEM niche that needed to be filled.

BMW AG has very close relationships with Alpina and Racing Dynamics and they have been very aware that a very large amount of their customers "tune" the cars/SAV's they purchase. And in Germany a lot of consumers take the car directly to a "tuner" after delivery to get it the way they want it set up.


AudiphileAudiphile - 9/24/2010 2:12:58 PM
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Agent00R is right. Audi should drop that heavy 4.2-liter V8 from the S5 coupe and replace it with the supercharged V6 from the S4.
I have owned two Audis and two BMWs in the past, and have driven both the S5 and the 335i. They are both fine cars, but I am too tall to fit in either one without my head hitting the ceiling! :-(
I hope Audi comes out with the new S7 and S6 models real soon. A high-performance car I can fit in - wouldn't that be nice?


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