The Chevrolet Volt Results Are In, Should We Prep For A Celebration OR Funeral?

The Chevrolet Volt Results Are In, Should We Prep For A Celebration OR Funeral?
Here at Spy headquarters, we have been keeping an eye on the happenings with what may be the 2011 debut of the year. And it should be, considering we all paid for it. The 2011 Chevrolet Volt is finally getting first drives by the press and some are speaking up about their experiences.

However, there seems to be an interesting divide. Those who are impressed, those who are less than impressed and those are are just going to tell it like it is. You can consider us part of the latter.

Merely weeks ago, we were one of the few to be disappointed that General Motors' decided to back down from its claim of 40 miles on an electric charge. Now with the first reports streaming in, it seems pretty clear that this may not be the savior that Detroit was hoping for. With Popular Mechanics doing some testing, the results were not too mindblowing.

Not to mention, The Truth About Cars writes about Popular Mechanics' electric charge findings, "The results are spectacularly unimpressive: Three different drivers drove the Volt on three successive days, starting with a full charge. The EV ranges were 31, 35 and 33 miles, for an average of 33 miles. Normal driving styles were employed. That’s well below GM’s endlessly proclaimed 40+ mile range, but not exactly terrible."

Where YOU may be intrigued is when it comes to a writer from the Detroit Free Press who gives the Volt what 00R would consider "slam dunk status."

Carefully read all three stories and let us know what you think: Is the 2011 Chevrolet Volt off to a good start OR should Detroit prepare for the worst?


[Popular Mechanics] PM was able to measure fuel economy in the CS (charge sustaining mode) after the battery was fully depleted. In the city, the average was 31.67 mpg. On the highway, 38.15 mpg. That averages to about 35 mpg! And on premium fuel, which GM deemed necessary to try to optimize the efficiency of the gas engine. Adjusting for the  higher cost of premium, that works out to an equivalent of 32 mpg on regular fuel. The Prius gets 50 mpg on regular, and many tests of the new Hyundai Sonata are coming in at 35 mpg on the highway. The new Cruze is to get 40 mpg. What happened to GM’s claims of 50 mpg for the Volt?

So what about the combined mileage, factoring in the EV range? PM’s number are 37.5 mpg city and 38.15 mpg highway...


[Source: The Truth About Cars]


After our three days with the Volt, we're certain of a few things: One, the car is a well-engineered piece that integrates the various powertrain components with a refinement we didn't expect. Except for some of the materials, the interior cocoon fits a $41,000 car, which in practice drops to $33,500 after the $7500 federal EV subsidy. As for the rather unremarkable fuel economy, it's useful to remember that the Volt carries two powertrains—electric and gas—and thus suffers a weight penalty that effects overall efficiency. But of course, those two powertrains are why the Volt can be a primary vehicle that doesn't ask the owner to compromise driving cycles like a pure EV. Consider the Volt a well-engineered first step on the path to electrified vehicles.

[Source: Popular Mechanics]


Its batteries' 40-mile range is expected to cover the daily driving of 60% of American motorists. An onboard generator — yes, it's gas-powered — produces electricity for longer drives, eliminating the range anxiety that limited the appeal of electric cars from the 1907 Detroit Electric to the General Motors EV-1 and Toyota RAV4-EV in the 1990s.

Based on my recent test drive, the Volt is up to the job. It's fun to drive, practical, good looking and in a league of its own technically. The sleek compact accelerates briskly. Its handling is responsive and sporty. The interior provides plenty of space and comfort for four adults...


[Source: USAToday VIA Freep]









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t_bonet_bone - 10/11/2010 2:27:55 AM
+5 Boost
Let me get this straight--you get 30 or so miles on last night's charge; after that you are getting about 35 mpg. I think for me that would make fueling a monthly thing instead of 3-4 times a month. No disappointment here.


PlanBPlanB - 10/11/2010 12:25:00 PM
-1 Boost
I was wondering if there was a break-in period for the battery myself. It seemed the range kept getting a little better the more they drove it.


veyron1001veyron1001 - 10/11/2010 9:28:01 AM
+1 Boost
Better yet, it should have been born.


sold2earlysold2early - 10/11/2010 9:08:14 AM
+7 Boost
Funeral. People vote with their wallets and the numbers just don't work. The only people who will buy this are the green extremists who don't care if the costs outweigh the savings.


MorePowerMorePower - 10/11/2010 7:03:14 PM
+1 Boost
The green extremists won't buy it either. They'll keep their Prius or Insight lease going and wait until the new Teslas, Karma's, Leaf's or Mini-Electric's are available.

Besides made in America, there's nothing about this car that stands out and makes you want to deal with a Chevy dealer experience to get one.

Chevy Experience = mark-up, chessy & unprofessional sales staff


edeus123edeus123 - 10/12/2010 12:48:57 AM
+1 Boost
@Sold2early, if I can boost you a hundred times I would have done so, because I am in total agreement with you.


tangotango - 10/11/2010 11:01:51 AM
0 Boost
Firstly, GM did not back down from their claim of 40 mile range. They modified it to read between 25 and 50 miles depending on prevailing conditions and driving styles. Now, the fact that The Truth About Cars gets 33 miles from their Volt is outside of the projection how, exactly? The problem in these forums is the English Language. People just don't read very well. Case in point is a few lines above. Some of us don't even know when to use "should" and when to use "shouldn't".


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 10/12/2010 12:15:52 AM
+1 Boost
lol!


edeus123edeus123 - 10/12/2010 12:56:41 AM
+2 Boost
Now, tango, I'm force to believe that was a spelling era. I don't believe it was made intentional. Now, I'm usually in agreement with your statements, but this one is kind of a low blow. This is a car culture site, not freaking grammar school. I know I had some misspelling in postings at time. And that being said I would like for someone to over look the mistake I made and focus on the matter of the issue that I'm stating. Nevertheless, I would expect the same thing to go for all of us car guys and girls. So use some respect on this site for your peers.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 10/11/2010 11:39:05 AM
0 Boost
Let's compare:
Electric Range
Leaf -- 40 miles
Volt -- 25-50 miles

Very similar. In EV-only driving, neither has an advantage. But that leads us to:

Total Range
Leaf -- 40 miles
Volt -- 300+ miles

At the end of the range the Leaf needs to be recharged, the Volt can be gassed up or recharged or both (i.e. the Volt can be driven continuously, forever, just like a real car). Need to make a 400 mile trip? You can do that in a Volt in one day by gassing it up once on the trip. The Leaf you'd have to recharge 10 times. TEN TIMES. And that leads us to:

Time to recharge on a standard 120 volt outlet
Leaf -- 19 hours
Volt -- 10 hours

So the Volt can be recharged at home overnight by anyone with a normal work schedule. The Leaf? Hope you're working from home, or there's an outlet at work for you to use. Sure, you can cut those times down with the 240 volt charger system, but that only helps if you only charge the car at home, meaning the Leaf still can't be used like a real car, while the Volt can be. And again if you don't have time to charge the car at all, you can gas up the Volt and drive like a regular hybrid. The Leaf? Hope your TiVo is full, because after you drive it for an hour for 40 miles you have 19 hours to kill before you can drive it again for an hour. That 400 mile drive now takes 10 DAYS. Plus 10 MORE days to get home. The Volt? Two days total, there and back.

Is the Volt more expensive? Yes. It's also bigger, more practical, and (most importantly) CAN BE USED LIKE A REAL CAR. It is just unfathomable to me that ANYONE would buy a Leaf for a $7k savings knowing how limited it is.


JRobUSCJRobUSC - 10/11/2010 11:49:23 AM
-3 Boost
and even Nissan realizes just how compromised the Leaf is -- they're now offering a free one week rental car once a year for Leaf owners who need to drive somewhere.

Again, I am just at a loss at the negativity on here about the Volt (and incidentally, all the Volt reviews are hitting the web today, and I have yet to see a negative one, so far all the reviews have been tremendously positive, other than Autospies). It's the only one of the two that makes any sense. The car I'd consider a threat to the Volt isn't the Leaf, it's the next generation Prius. The Leaf is the vehicle with all the shortcomings, the vehicle everyone should be questioning the validity of, and yet somehow it's getting a pass while the Volt gets torn to shreds on here. And apparently all because it's cheaper (which again, is more than countered by it's general uselessness as "a car"). Can anyone rationally and logically explain this phenomenon?


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 10/12/2010 12:19:16 AM
-1 Boost
JRobUSC you cant take these kids serious on this site they are just bitter that there favorite badge did not think of the Volt first.


PlanBPlanB - 10/11/2010 12:33:11 PM
+2 Boost
Everyone seems to have a different opinion on this car, but I do applaud GM for at least bringing a car like this to mass market. What I don't get is the complaints in the pricing, you guys do know whats going on under the hood right?


t_bonet_bone - 10/11/2010 8:09:12 PM
+3 Boost
Didn't know that. Disappointing.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 10/12/2010 9:51:26 AM
0 Boost
No they did not....

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-11/gm-defends-volt-while-critics-say-it-s-not-a-real-electric-car.html


saucey1986saucey1986 - 10/11/2010 3:40:27 PM
+1 Boost
funeral-- this would not be worth is maybe fine is some doesnt really go anywere but just think, if you wana go out with friend u can easily rack up 100miles not even trying not only that. my job is 80miles from home and back to work. what is a normal driving style stop and go traffic and keeping up with traffic going 80mph i rather stick with my fire breathing catless exhaust mazda RX8. volt is just a waste of GM time and effort and a waste of the tax payers money. and they wonder why the needed help for bailing out.


iamdabest1iamdabest1 - 10/11/2010 6:22:50 PM
+3 Boost
i wonder if the electric bills will be high ? on the other hand, if you know of a vacant house for sale in the neighborhood, you can run an extension cord from an outside socket to the car :)


acronisacronis - 10/11/2010 7:37:04 PM
+2 Boost
I think this may sell well for GM.


EpikEpik - 10/13/2010 6:23:24 PM
+2 Boost
I'd rather get the Leaf. It does something well. It's a real EV. If you want to go more than 100 miles, use your other car.

I don't want an electric vehicle that has gas in it. WTF?


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