Another Scape Goat? ABC News Now Focuses On BMW As Unsafe
In a driveway in central New Jersey sits a 300-horsepower BMW, a $40,000 turbocharged dynamo that is rarely driven because its owners say it is unsafe.
The car has a defective high-pressure fuel pump that can cause it to shake, vibrate and unexpectedly slow down while driving, BMW driver Michael Noone told ABC News.
"We really don't have confidence in the car anymore," said Noone, who leased it in 2008 as a graduation gift for his 25-year-old daughter Jennifer.
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aarononymous -
10/26/2010 11:59:13 AM
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unintended deceleration
Joe_Limon -
10/26/2010 12:13:31 PM
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fix it? o_O
bmwdrvr -
10/26/2010 12:16:18 PM
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yeah that makes sense a car isnt working correctly and Im going to just let it sit at my home not driving are you serious???? lol. Get it fixed or use the lemon law.....there is no way a 2007 isnt under warranty still if it was rarely driven....
LexSucks -
10/26/2010 3:21:56 PM
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" just couldn't imagine spending 50 large and having to "live" with this if BMW was refusing to replace them simply to save money..."
- Thats how corporations behave. Yet there are morons who believe that corporations should have less rules and regulation. Talk about brain washed.
Yonder7 -
10/26/2010 12:36:14 PM
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It is a recall already
http://jalopnik.com/5673591/how-fans-forced-bmw-to-fix-this-faulty-fuel-pump
internationalmanofmystery -
10/26/2010 12:41:54 PM
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Yes, it is a recall already.
"We really don't have confidence in the car anymore," said Noone...."
So, after two plus years you have NO confidence anymore???? None?? I find that, hmmmm, what's the word I'm looking for ....
0to60 -
10/26/2010 12:44:18 PM
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I wish I my parents would have bought me something like this for my graduation. Cheap scapes. All I got was stuck with a $40,000 student loan :-/
pennfootball -
10/26/2010 1:08:57 PM
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Well they are not safe if the engines don't work when you are merging onto a highway, your power cuts out and you get hit by a truck because there is no shoulder on the road and the truck can't slow down as he plows into the precious ultimate driving machine while the clueless delusional expensive = good owner rethinks why they bought it!
knowitall1985 -
10/26/2010 1:25:39 PM
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After what happen to Toyota every MFG. better do recalls on problems that were just fixed when customers complained. Fixing them all will cost millions. All these car companies will just build it into the price. We get to pay for it.........
knowitall1985 -
10/26/2010 1:27:47 PM
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BMW=ultimate killing machine.......nice ring to it.LOL
Agent009 -
10/26/2010 1:48:18 PM
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I love the fact the 25 year old daughter thought a stumbling engine would explode. She has been watching too many movies.
Yonder7 -
10/26/2010 2:08:35 PM
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I am sure low pressure in fuel pums won't make a car to explode. Also Why you are paying attention just to that bad things, There is a good one: BMW will give 10 warranty to fuel pumps, I hope all other manufacturers does the same with the diferent falling components.
abcd -
10/26/2010 2:11:36 PM
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That's hideous. How many other defects BMW has been hiding from public and risking human lives!!
enthusiastx11 -
10/26/2010 7:04:37 PM
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they're not hiding it you moron. as i mentioned below, i had a 2008 335i with this issue. every owner received a letter more than a year ago and said that there MIGHT be issues with the fuel pump and that the warranty on it would be extended and they'd replace the fuel pump if you brought it to the dealer. i did so, but mine did it again. so they lemoned my car and gave me a new one. AMAZING customer service experience.
enthusiastx11 -
10/27/2010 12:08:25 PM
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so clearly people think that being give a WHOLE NEW CAR is a less then ideal customer service experience? curious why.
pepito66 -
10/28/2010 2:00:25 PM
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Ha ha ha you probably are a Toyota owner , this is BMW they don't have nothing to hide , this is the real prove. So relax We still enjoy the Ultimate Driving Machine forever lol.........
enthusiastx11 -
10/26/2010 7:05:35 PM
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Free
Maintenance
For four years
No money needed
pepito66 -
10/28/2010 1:56:14 PM
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Hey for sure you are nor a BMW owmer you don't have to pay for nothing for 4 years or 50 000 miles, that's the reason you feel bad or feel some envy lol lol...............
pepito66 -
10/28/2010 2:02:30 PM
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If you don't have money buy a Kia or something similar like Hiunday or what ever....
LexSucks -
10/26/2010 3:03:59 PM
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I stopped being a BMW fan years ago. But I'm always ahead of the curve.
pcar4evr -
10/26/2010 3:57:47 PM
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40000 miles on my 335ix, not a hiccup - perfect reliability
enthusiastx11 -
10/26/2010 7:06:23 PM
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and that's the typical experience. this issue is only affecting a handful of cars.
enthusiastx11 -
10/27/2010 12:09:48 PM
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i've had 4 BMWs in the last 6 years. they're incredibly reliable cars. and sooooo much fun to drive. ; )
Joe_Limon -
10/27/2010 12:23:37 PM
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so what you're saying that, if bmw is reliable, and still ends up at the bottom of this list comparatively... most major automotive manufacturers must therefore be just as if not more reliable as well? Makes sense to me.
Lexus -
10/26/2010 4:04:27 PM
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If the media keep spinning this like they did with Toyota it will help Audi and MB sales and market share for sure. I Know someone at work who had a 2009 BMW 335i coupe with similar problem. Hope BMW will fix this soon.
knowitall1985 -
10/26/2010 5:47:36 PM
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Don't worry MB and Audi are NEXT...........
thstone -
10/26/2010 4:43:56 PM
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Sorry but its hard to see loss of power and running rough as a serious safety issue. 25 years ago ALL cars ran this way - even brand new - and there was no deluge of cars being run over by semi-trucks when trying to merge onto the freeway. This is a non-issue.
Yonder7 -
10/26/2010 4:44:44 PM
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Could Be just the american goverment to push the domestic sales, is a good way to do it (No Honest but usefull). Most of american cars will not compare with the foreingners, so if they are not able to reach the same quality, bad advertising of imported cars in all posible oportunities, will help then, (at least while they exist).
richard112360 -
10/26/2010 5:55:25 PM
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FWIW...Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura Dominate' Consumer Reports Reliability Survey........
Three European luxury brands, Volkswagen AG’s Audi, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG’s BMW and Daimler AG’s Mercedes- Benz, scored among the worst this year, Consumer Reports said. Almost three-fourths of Audi models and about half of BMW and Mercedes vehicles were rated below average, the magazine said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-26/toyota-ties-with-honda-to-dominate-consumer-reports-reliability-survey.html
Willis -
10/26/2010 6:59:38 PM
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Consumer Reports = joke
I've never listened to them and never will. A broken cup holder or poor fuel economy to them means the car is horrible. Now that is pathetic.
800over -
10/27/2010 11:50:45 AM
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What you talking about Willis?
Guess what....all manufacturers are graded the same....if you have a problem, people complain. If a car is "below average" in CS it tells you why. If you don't read the article....then don't comment. Although this is Autospies.
enthusiastx11 -
10/26/2010 7:01:30 PM
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the person in this article is an idiot. i had a 2008 335i with this issue. as soon as i uttered the words 'lemon law' they bought me out of my lease and got me into a brand new car. i was amazed at how smoothly and efficiently bmw handled the process. i actually MADE MONEY because they refunded my downpayment and all the lease payments i had made since the day the problem was first reported to the dealer.
0to60 -
10/27/2010 8:43:30 AM
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You have to work for them. There is no way someone is that obsessed with BMW. Your like the Hyundai guy and David999 but for BMW. Get a life!
enthusiastx11 -
10/27/2010 12:11:11 PM
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no...i don't work for a car company. i just buy them. love cars that are fun to drive, look great and have a soul.
Rectifier -
10/27/2010 12:45:41 PM
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So, you had the HPFP issue, yet you state "they're incredibly reliable cars" in you previous comment?
LexSucks -
10/27/2010 2:53:47 PM
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"no...i don't work for a car company. i just buy them. love cars that are fun to drive, look great and have a soul. "
- Any non "M" BMW is boring. I test drove a 335i and found it to be boring. You should test drive a Subaru STI or a EVO X. Both those cars make the 335 feel boring (as well as a 370z). Compared to a Camry the BMW might be fun to drive, but compared to any one of those rally bred cars, the 335 will put you to sleep. The 335 doesn't even have a Limited-Slip diff for christ sakes.
enthusiastx11 -
10/26/2010 7:07:41 PM
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let's add some logic here....
if this were a problem actually affecting sooooo many cars, wouldn't we have heard about wild accidents all over town.
for those of you who go on and on about how ubiquitous the 3-series is, why aren't we seeing crashes all over town?
WorldofLuxury -
10/26/2010 7:26:12 PM
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The issues are real, and so is the scapegoat to avoid embarrassment about their Toyota false/inaccurate accusation incident.
SSP350 -
10/26/2010 10:57:51 PM
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Maybe there hasn't been any severe accidents with the fuel pump issue, but, the issue is real and it's been posted on all of any kind of BMW forums. Apparently, when the fuel pumps start to fail, the car loses a lot of power. This issue has been ongoing for a couple of years, now. Most people who have had this issue has reported that it keeps failing and BMW keeps telling them that its a software issue.
pennfootball -
10/27/2010 11:57:40 AM
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BMW had a bad year, with five of its 11 models scoring below average. While the BMW M3 topped the sporty cars category, the 1-, 3-, and 5-Series models with the 3.0-liter turbocharged (N54) engine had high problem rates related to the fuel system, among other gripes.
Audiphile -
10/27/2010 12:44:11 PM
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If BMW had not incorporated the "limp mode" feature into the N54 fuel pump, the engine would simply stop running when the fuel pump failed, leaving the driver and passengers stranded. THAT could be a safety issue as well. Sounds like the old "damned if you do, damned if you don't" dilemma.
If it simply took BMW a long time to figure out the cause of the fuel pump failures, they did the right thing by extending the warranty on the fuel pumps until they solved the problem.
However, if BMW solved the problem fairly quickly but didn't take corrective action for "cost-benefit analysis" reasons until the threat of adverse publicity changed the paramaters of the cost-benefit analysis, the firm should be chastised for their conduct. BMW's customers, who pay premium prices for their "ultimate driving machines", deserve better treatment than that.
I have owned two BMWs in the past, by the way.
truckman -
10/27/2010 1:52:30 PM
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Thankfully the BMW didn't get the un intended acceleration with all the HP, every car has recalls, sounds like they were a little slow on this one, although sounds a little political.
Shift -
10/27/2010 2:01:07 PM
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My 2009 335i convertible was out of service for this issue a total of 6 weeks on a 30-month lease. I was always provided a loaner (which was normally a 328 sedan). Doubt I'll ever purchase a BMW again.
Neverfollow -
10/27/2010 5:41:57 PM
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This is a very real problema that has needed some attention to get BMW to step up and solve for a while now. No need to blow it all out of proportion however.
thstone -
10/28/2010 4:16:54 PM
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As you have seen in the past few days, the media has pretty much ignored this story - its a non-issue.
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