SPIED: Porsche's Next-Gen Boxster Undergoing HARD Testing

SPIED: Porsche's Next-Gen Boxster Undergoing HARD Testing
Having recently driven the 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder, I was blown away. Sure, being 6'8 means I fit uncomfortably. But the exhaust note and the mid-engine powertrain means that the Boxster provides a fantastic driving experience and has plenty of grip in the corners.

Except not everyone sees it my way.

Regardless, you can bet your bottom dollar that the next-generation Boxster will be even better. If you look at Porsche's other products, I'd actually expect the new base Boxster to overshadow today's Boxster Spyder.

As the latest spy shots show, the car looks much like today's car. I mean, did you really expect the design to be a radical move? Coming from the company making the same car it did 30 years ago, hah!

Cool thing about the image down below. Check out that wheel lift! That chassis must be so stiff!

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These are the best spy pictures yet of the new Porsche Boxster.

The new Boxster, spied here being tested to its limits at the Nurburgring, has dropped much of the camouflage of the previous test cars spied and some of its real bodywork – including parts of the front and the doors - is now visible...


[Source: Autocar]









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Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 10/27/2010 11:42:51 PM
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"Cool thing about the image down below. Check out that wheel lift! That chassis must be so stiff!"

Usually wheel lift is a sign of a problem. It is a good thing that the track has a camber change right below the car, otherwise I'd be suspecting a very poor weight distribution in that corner... unless of course that back wheel was also raised :O


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 10/28/2010 10:11:00 AM
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:(

http://cdn.images.autocar.co.uk/612x408FFFFFF/Car/Porsche/Boxster/Porsche-Boxster-27101010548411251600x1060.jpg

It's sad to see it even happening on a flat track section. Hopefully this testing fixes that.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/28/2010 12:15:52 PM
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Nice try bashing Porsche again, but both of these shots where taken as the car transitions in and out of one of the two carousals on the ring. This is area where relatively flat and smooth asphalt meets steep and bumpy concrete. The photo angles are deceptive, as these are very steep sections. In the photo above, you can see where the outside wheel is fully loaded and the left font has dropped significantly, and it still cannot reach the concrete due to the steep slope. It is not really wheel lift, but the inability of the suspension to cope with such a sudden and steep drop at these speeds. If the chassis was twisted upward on the front left of the car we would have a problem, but we don't as the car is cornering very flatly. Most cars will show some amount of wheel drop in this area of the ring since the problem is exacerbated by a raised lip at the transition point causing the suspension to lift up and then have to immediately drop steeply. Even race cars do it in this area, and it is difficult to argue that they have a poorly sorted out chassis and suspension.
http://www.tsrennsport.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/2008-Mini-03-B-0386-540.jpg
http://ignition.my/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/500x_bmw_m3_gt2_nurburgring.jpg



Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 10/28/2010 12:49:51 PM
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If you would have actually understood my comment. I said it was a good thing that it was doing this with the track conditions you just mentioned. Because as you to agree if it happened at any other portion of the track it would be unacceptable.

Further more, if you would click the link I posted, the car is no longer in the carousal and it is still doing it.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/28/2010 2:37:55 PM
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I clicked on the link you posted and stand by my comment. In this photo, the car is just exiting the carousal (you can see the concrete apron behind the car, with the steeply sloping section off to the inside left). Again, this is an incredibly bumpy section and the car just has not settled down yet. If you watch the 24 Hours Nürburgring race, you'll see many cars bouncing through this section, and not always with all four tires planted on the ground.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 10/28/2010 3:17:37 PM
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Oh really? Can you explain why the rear right wheel is so heavily loaded then? Look at it compared to the front right. If the car has just come off of the carousel onto level pavement, why is it so heavily loaded? It should have less load if the car just traveled over a convex track section. Your comment of it is still bouncing all willy nilly. Would have made more sense if the rear left wheel was lifting in this section.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/28/2010 5:05:19 PM
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Well I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. The concrete section of the carousal ends before the corner transitions and the slope is anything but linear. In the photo, the boxster is still cornering hard and both outside wheels are loaded and on a section of track with less inclination. The inside wheels just a section of the tack that is a steeper slope, longer section of concrete apron and bumpier (as you can see, even the left rear wheel is getting some air). The camera angle is deceptive as this section is anything but flat and straight. Just lay an imaginary ruler from the inside corner of the track to the outside and you'll see the slope is there. This is a very difficult corner on the track and nothing about it is normal.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 10/28/2010 8:21:36 PM
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well it's good that we both know that the track is convex there. Here I drew a picture of what a cross section of the track and left wheels of the car imitate. The top drawing is what I see the track layout doing to the vehicle. And the bottom is what you see?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/joe_limon/perception.jpg?t=1288311418

I guess you are correct, we will have to agree to disagree. I do however agree with you that the vehicle is pulling a hard corner and yes that is why there is lift on the left hand side.


Terry989Terry989 - 10/29/2010 4:19:29 AM
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I'm not sure the track is convex at that point. I believe once you leave the concrete it transitions quickly into a slight inward bank at this point in the track. Even at the carousal apex, it is not really convex, but rather a slight bank on the asphalt and a steep bank on the concrete portion. Like I said, a very difficult section of the track on all cars, especially if you enter it too fast or exit the concrete at the wrong place. It's hard to finds photos of other cars exiting the carousal to know for sure but there are a few other entertaining ones.
http://bmwcca.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=284&d=1207169707
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/2010%20Jacco/Random%20Snaps/Driftworks%20Phil%20E46.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mercedes-e-class-estate-007.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/CSL%20Carousel.jpg
http://www.automobilsport.com/uploads/_neustart/may-20-2009/Frikadelli%20Porsche.jpg


outsideroutsider - 10/28/2010 2:44:13 AM
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The front left wheel lifts, because still MacPherson strut (I guess) and not proper weight ballance.
However in this (left) bend most of the cars lift the inner wheels because there is a cove inside.
In other hand there is a camouflage on the critical part of front, making less downforce. The car looks full mass loaded as well.
Interesting is the rear extractable spoiler. It looks too small.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 10/28/2010 9:45:54 AM
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serious fun


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