Treasury gets $11.7 billion from GM stock sale

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Treasury Department says it has received $11.7 billion from the sale of 358.5 million shares of General Motors stock.

Treasury announced that the net proceeds from the GM stock sold last week were delivered on Tuesday. Treasury officials said that the government could receive an additional $1.8 billion assuming the bankers exercise options to purchase an additional 53.8 million shares of GM common stock within 30 days of the initial stock offering.

The government put $49.5 billion into GM as part of its bailout of the giant automaker.

In addition, Treasury said it will receive another $2.1 billion from GM when the automaker repurchases preferred stock that was issued under the government's $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program. That sale is supposed to take place in December.

The $11.7 billion in net proceeds represented the amount the government received after subtracting fees paid to the banks which handled the initial public offering.

In the IPO, GM's owners — mainly the U.S. government — sold 478 million shares at $33 each.

The stock traded as high $35.99 on the first day of trading last Thursday before settling with a gain of 3.6 percent at $34.19 for the day.

On Tuesday, GM shares followed the broader stock market down to close at $33.25, off 83 cents, or 2.4 percent, from Monday's close.

Such volatility is normal for stock in the days following an initial public offering, especially one the size of GM's, said Scott Sweet, managing partner of IPO research firm IPO Boutique. The conflict between North and South Korea, he said, is causing jitters in all segments of the stock market in a light trading week due to the Thanksgiving holiday, he said.

"There are few safe havens," Sweet said. "A geopolitical event such as the Korean situation is a highly combustible lightning rod to a market with little holiday liquidity."

GM's stock slipped perilously close to the IPO price of $33, which could trigger computerized "stop loss" orders from bigger investors. Analysts say the investment banks that ran the deal likely would persuade larger investors to step in before it got to that point. The banks are prohibited from buying the stock themselves by Securities and Exchange Commission rules until it hits the IPO price.
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Agent009Agent009 - 11/24/2010 12:48:00 PM
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Even so, taxpayers stand to lose about 9 to 10 Billion when it is all said and done.



uaw_laxuaw_lax - 11/24/2010 1:44:33 PM
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Since GM is still in business and making money how can taxpayers lose a dime?


SteveSteve - 11/24/2010 6:41:09 PM
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uaw_lax write "Since GM is still in business and making money how can taxpayers lose a dime?"

Say Timmy buy a pair of shoes for $150 at UawLax Shoe Store, and then he sells them for $33. UawLax Shoe Store continues to do business, but Timmy has lost money! Now replace "Timmy" with "Tax Payers", and "UawLax Shoe Store" with "GM", and talk BILLIONS of dollars, and you may start to see the picture.

Last I read, analysts have universally stated that the US Government (AKA Tax Payers) will *NEVER* get all the money back that they poured into GM in the form of stock purchases of millions of shares at WAAAAAY above market value, and official bailout money.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 11/25/2010 12:34:33 AM
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Steve, sorry to say that's not a realistic scenario. As I stated before GM has some serious vehicles that compete well with the rest of the world (still hard to believe today a Cadillac is being compared to a BMW, and there are truly good Buick's out that don't look like battleships) GM is still operating with a profit and every year has paid the government back some money. As long as GM is making payments the taxpayers will get their money.


SteveSteve - 11/25/2010 10:57:04 AM
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uaw_lax, let me put this into terms you might understand: Timmy's parents pay for him to go to Med School. That's 8 years of tuition at $40,000 per year ($320,000), plus 8 years of residency at $10,000 per year ($80,000). Timmy is now in debt to his parents to the tune of $400,000.

But the problem is Timmy is 50 years old, and he has always worked at MacDonalds, and he has already declared bankruptcy. Through his earnings, he makes a profit of $5,000 per year, which he is using to repay his debt to his parents.

Analysts say Timmy's parents will "never" be repaid their "investment" in Timmy. A little math says unless things change, Timmy will take 80 years to pay back his debt (interest not included). Another perspective, according to uaw_lax, is that as long as Timmy is profitable and working, his parents will get their money back. In both cases, not in *our* lifetime.


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 11/25/2010 12:57:34 PM
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steve cut the crappy convoluted stories, as long as "Timmy" or GM is around we can get our money back. To take things even further how much tax money we would have lost by letting GM die taking with it jobs that it's workers patronizes with our hard earned money look at the even larger cost of property tax lost to building closing and income tax lost due to half a million of unemployed workers that would be on unemployment taking more federal money from the system.


800over800over - 11/29/2010 12:46:17 PM
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maybe my math is wrong here....if someone could check it for me. According to wikipedia GM employs 68,000 (current GM) and the bailout was 50 billion. Doesn't that work out to 735k per employee?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 11/24/2010 12:55:08 PM
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$11.7 billion for half of their stock. Say that they can manage to sell the other half for $11.7 billion and the $8.1 billion in bailout money they didn't use and already paid back. Yields $31.5 billion. My question now is how much stock did gm give away of their own in the ipo? And will this close the final $18 billion gap for the loans?


uaw_laxuaw_lax - 11/24/2010 1:46:56 PM
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GM owes far less than 50 BIL, old GM is a separate company from new GM (you knew that of course) and the money to clean up old sites has already been accounted for last year.


800over800over - 11/29/2010 12:30:06 PM
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Old/new/whatever. The government(read: taxpayers) pumped billions that will never be seen again into GM.


tangotango - 11/24/2010 5:26:00 PM
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Joe Limon's mathematics is as poor as Agent009's. You are assuming that the price of the stocks will remain the same throughout the remaining months to come and that some stocks won't be bought back and resold at a higher value later. That's TRADING for you. If you don't understand it, don't speculate and cause mischief.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 11/24/2010 5:41:27 PM
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Why is that assumption bad? Without that assumption you are left with a gradient of useless potential values which is hard to draw any conclusion out of. Remember, just because I made the assumption doesn't make the math or analysis wrong. Unless you give me the crystal ball that will tell us all at what rate the government will sell it's remaining share at you simply can't do any better of an analysis. Or if I am incorrect, can you please inform me of a better method that doesn't require that assumption?


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