The 2012 Nissan GT-R's Updates Add Up To A Half Second

911 turbo? Or 911 turbo s? I see 3.0 for the latter, 3.5s for the former

http://fastestlaps.com/carPorsche_Porsche_997_Turbo_S_PDK.html

GT-R could do 0-60 1 second flat...still wouldn't buy it.

I pretty sure we have a lower time once we have more testing with this Nissan GT-R. I think it can hit 0-60 in 2.8 to 2.9 seconds for sure. How much does the 911 Turbo cost again?

Where did you get your infor that the 911 Turbo hit 0-60 in 2.7 wikipedia? ha...ha..ha... They're a joke, I don't belief everything I read on there website.

And according insideline the 911 Turbo hit 0-60 in 3.2s and Car and Driver has the 911 Turbo hit 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. And motorauthority has the Porsche clock in at 3.2s from 0-60

The Nissan GTR is the first of its kind and i doubt anyone will race a 911 stock. Changing to different tires counts as modified.

You mean the smush VW Bettle? ha...ha...ha.. Sorry to burst your bubble but the current Nissan GT-R beat your Bettle Porsche on the Nurburgring as well.

Lexus, I own a Porsche 911 Turbo and I don't care if a Nissan is faster than my car or not. I've done 3.2 and high 3.1's and for me that's hella fast. I'm a fan of the GT-R as well but I don't go calling the Nissan a fast economy badged sports car for the lower income folks. That would be wrong. Don't be such a fanboy. The Lexus is quite a fit faster than both the 911 Turbo and the GT-R but it's still a great car.

"Sorry to burst your bubble but the current Nissan GT-R beat your Bettle Porsche on the Nurburgring as well."

according to nissan propaganda yes...but we shouldn't forget that every independent test was 10-20 seconds slower than nissan's fairy tale times. i'm not going to post a source, cos even the biggest nissan fans should have noticed that fact.

i even doubt that the gt-r is capable of driving several 7:40 laps in one stint due to it's colossal weight. the brakes simply won't handle that.

Porsche's RS models, work fine on a racetrack out of the box. Just take a look at the 24 ADAC 24 Hours results. a downgraded (no ceramic brakes) gt3 rs finished 13th. the raceversion of the lf-a finished 18th overall.

http://adac.24h-rennen.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_ENDERGEBNIS_Gesamt_neu_01.pdf

Ain't it strange that the almighty Nissan gt-r/Godzilla/ porsche for breakfast eater didn't attend the 24H of the ring during the last few years?

this fact says more than a million words.

100octane:

1. BS without source remains BS.
2. Factory driver w/ 1000 laps should be faster than an independent tester w/ 20 laps(probably not even that many).
3. Info containing independent tester's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

7:34 Nissan GT-R (2012) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 Porsche conducted test

Don't worry, GT-R didn't beat every Porsche, at least not the racing one:
7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
Happy now?
4. Why GT-R is not attending that 24H? Because they are busy w/ FIA GT1. Ain't it strange Porsche is not attending GT1 or F1? Not strange to me, I don't go to every party.

dlin:

1. BS without source remains BS.

1.1 talking about sources and mentioning wikipedia in the next sentence...nice one

2. Factory driver w/ 1000 laps should be faster than an independent tester w/ 20 laps(probably not even that many).

2.1 1 warm up and 2 clocked laps to be precise, and i agree that factory times don't always match independent test results, but only nissan pulls out that kind of discrepancys

3. Info containing independent tester's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

3.1 check 1.1

7:34 Nissan GT-R (2012) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)

3.2 here we are. take a closer look at the date. this is the gt-r version that, according to nissan, was supposed to lap the ring in 7 minutes and 20 seconds, remember?

http://www.autospies.com/news/2012-Nissan-GT-R-comes-with-530HP-and-beat-the-ACR-around-the-Nurburgring-58519/

7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 Porsche conducted test

3.3 check 1.1 again. the GT2 mk1 lapped the ring in 7:33, back in 2007, when the fastest GT-R time was 7:38.

http://www.sportauto-online.de/supertest/porsche-911-gt2-auf-nordschleife-und-hockenheimring-1041363.html

Don't worry, GT-R didn't beat every Porsche, at least not the racing one:
7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
Happy now?

3.4 stay focussed

4. Why GT-R is not attending that 24H? Because they are busy w/ FIA GT1. Ain't it strange Porsche is not attending GT1 or F1? Not strange to me, I don't go to every party.

oh yes, i forgot how well they're doing in the GT1...
you're right, you don't have to join every party, but the point is that the ring is a major part of nissan's GT-R marketing, which basically makes it to their party. lexus understood this

1.1 Wiki or not, you can google and find the same info from Sport Auto anyway. Feel free to prove those info wrong.

2.1/3.2 Nissan didn't say anyone in GT-R can lap Nord in 7:20. What's so hard to understand the logic and difference between factory driver and independent tester?

3.3 Wow.... GT2, being 45 hp more and 700 lb lighter, runs 5 sec faster. Big big deal.....

4. For 1st timer it's not bad. And may I ask you a question by the same token: Why's Porsche not in GT1 or F1?

The fastest time the current Nissan GT-R hit from 0-60 is 3.2 second stock, just google it and you will see. The Porche 911 turbo hit 0-60 in 3.6 or higher in some reviews. This new Nissan GT-R should be able to do 0-60 in 2.9 to 3.0s for sure.

I know the German fanboi are pissed as shi$$ but what can they do? Nothing. The Nissan is the first stock car to run the Nurburgring under 8 minutes and now back and meaner than before. And the 2012 model beat the Corvette ZR1 by 2 full seconds as well on a slightly wet track.

Give me the porsche anytime..........

100octane:

1. BS without source remains BS.
2. Factory driver w/ 1000 laps should be faster than an independent tester w/ 20 laps(probably not even that many).
3. Info containing independent tester's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times

7:34 Nissan GT-R (2012) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 Porsche conducted test

Don't worry, GT-R didn't beat every Porsche, at least not the racing one:
7:24 Porsche 911 GT2 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (11/2010)
Happy now?
4. Why GT-R is not attending that 24H? Because they are busy w/ FIA GT1. Ain't it strange Porsche is not attending GT1 or F1? Not strange to me, I don't go to every party.

$150,000 for the Turbo 911. Its the most profitable car company in the world for that reason. If you need the Porsche name then go spend the extra $70,000. If you just need the performance then go buy a GTR/Z06 or ZR1. Personally who the hell would spend $150k on a new 911turbo that will depreciate $60,000 in the next two years? Buy a used Ferrari 430 for the same $. Used typically means less than 5000mi. In addition get a little exclusivity. 911's are a dime a dozen in S CA. snooze

yes, buy the Nissan instead of the Porsche and save your $70k. That way you have plenty of cash on hand to replace transmissions, axles, and other assorted items that explode during use.

Who would buy the 150K Porsche? Someone who could afford it, which I assume is why you wouldn't consider it. This is really very simple, if you can afford the best you buy the Porsche; if not, the GTR and Vette are good secondary choices.

They're both great great cars I can't wait for the comparison.

The VAG snobs are definately pissed today!

Awesome machine! The GT-R continues to dominate with each evolution, keep up the good work Nissan.

@Agent63,

my bad, I didn't meant that way. I didn't mean to disrespect Porsche because they make some of the "BEST" Sport cars out there.

A better metric would be to compare the fractional number of first place wins for either vehicle. Sure there are a lot of 911 wins, but there are far more 911 losses.

I was referring to races in general smart ass.

I sure hope they were winning 50% of the races, they had 50% of the cars in those races!

joe limon

that was the dumbest thing i've ever heared. porsche doesn't care if the teams who buy there cars win a race. they give them the best car and support they can and the rest is up to the team and driver. you're doing sth better than the others if 50% of the cars in a race belong to your company.

Such an incredible car.

People, stop fighting. The GT-R is clearly not for everyone. But for those who like it, it's a bargain and one hell of a car. The Porsche in the other hand, is just as amazing but only a few of us can afford it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so don't be a hater! I personally would pay a bit more, get a Ferrari 458 Italia and call it a day. PS - Respect other people's choice and enjoy what you have even if it's no Ferrari cause many can't even afford a Tata Nano ;-)