VIDEO: Is The Porsche 911 The Greatest Racer Ever Built?

VIDEO: Is The Porsche 911 The Greatest Racer Ever Built?
Now before you start throwing glass bottles and tomatoes at me, hear me out. Think: this car has been around since the 1960s and it is still doing a damned fine job in racing trim.

It has raced in different terrains, environments and types of races and it always manages to claw its way back to the top. Sure, it looks largely the same as it did way back when but as the saying goes: "Why fix something that ain't broke?"

Can you think of any other race cars that have survived the test of time like the 911? Is there a better racer out there?


Today is a big day in motorsports as we kick off the 2011 season with the Rolex 24 at Daytona. The race is an hour in, but started strong for Porsche. The #45 Flying Lizard Porsche powered Daytona Prototype started on the pole, the team's first time running a prototype, while the #66 TRG Porsche started up front in the GT Class. Also racing in the GT Class this year is Hurley Haywood in the Brumos #59 Porsche GT3 Cup car. Hurley will try for his seventh win at the Rolex 24 this weekend.

The linked video below depicts the Porsche 911's rich history in racing with Hurley's comments on the 911 and his legacy at Datyona International Speedway...




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Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/29/2011 9:07:44 PM
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It is the car with the most wins behind it... however I doubt it would be in the top 10 list for the vehicles with the highest winning percentage. Even throwing out all the single race wonders.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/29/2011 9:32:18 PM
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Number 1 in win/loss ratio aka winning percentage? OK! Lets bet $10,000.

Now my proof? With my dismal knowledge of vehicles that have raced. I'm pretty sure the original GT40 has a higher ratio then the 911.


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 10:31:30 AM
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Nevertheless Joe, you must admit that it is impressive. playing the percentage game is not impressive. A car that wins 40 races out of 50 has an 80% win ratio, but it is not nearly as impressive as someone who has won 10,000 races out of 20,000, a 50% win ratio. But I will take the one that has won 10,000 times.

If you are into football at all, I will take the 14-6 Giants of 2007 over the 18-1 Patriots (Also because I am a Giants fan), because that Giants team won the superbowl, the better percentage Patriots did not...


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 11:00:11 AM
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10,000 wins out of 20,000 races eh? This sure looks a lot less flattering when you say there is also 500,000 starts/entries and they only took home 10,000 wins. That's a 2% winning percentage. Or if you twist it like you are doing 10,000 last places out of 20,000 races is a 50% last place ratio lol!


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:09:00 PM
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nevertheless, thats 10,000 wins! 1 success triumphs over any number of losses...


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 12:13:16 PM
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no... it doesn't. lol


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:18:12 PM
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well, when you grow up, you'll find out that all that matters is the end results, which if Porsche wins, they win, doesnt matter how many other entrants failed.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 1:58:28 PM
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when you grow up and make it to school you'll realize that acing one test and bombing the rest of the year just doesn't cut it lol!


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/29/2011 9:36:01 PM
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You're it is a good indicator. Take the number of wins divide by the number of 911 entries, and multiply by 100 to get your percentage. Is it close to 2%?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/30/2011 12:01:13 AM
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*You're right*


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/30/2011 12:58:50 PM
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well at least you agree. Now do you see how a car that has raced several races and won one of them would have a higher winning to loss ratio then a car that has on average 30 starts/entries per race and wins half of the races? It's very apparent to me that the car that didn't rely on sheer number of entries to win must be the better vehicle in that class.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/30/2011 5:04:55 PM
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If you have 50% of the race field, there is a 50% chance you will win. Assuming the vehicles are restricted evenly. If there were only one Porsche being entered in all of these races they would win only a small fraction of the races they currently win.


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 10:35:56 AM
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Joe,

Simply put, theres a reason there are all the 911s out there. You really think Porsche fields 15 Factory 911s per race? They don't even field a single factory 911 in most instances. It is the PEOPLE's preference to race a 911. Why do so many people choose a 911? maybe because of their good track record (no pun intended).


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 10:56:34 AM
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It's peoples preference to race a 911 because that's what they see the most of. It's like a camry, horribly boring and not very attractive car, but since everyone else buys one why shouldn't they? I can also say that Porsche has come in last place in about half of the races they have entered. Doesn't sound as nice does it?


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:16:35 PM
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Joe is a douchebag... most people buy a camry bc thats what they can afford, not bc thats what they see... Idiot...

I don't care if there were 30 Porsches out of 50 cars and 29 911s placed in the last 29 spot. As long as the 1 remaining Porsche wins, a 911 would have won the race. And nobody remembers who placed 2nd-50th, they will remember Porsche won!

Its simple... It applies to a majority of the things. I can make an example out of anything, including any of your hobbies or interests...


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 12:17:25 PM
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congrats, sportyturbo, you can name a race that wasn't massively dominated by Porsches. Do you want me to look up races that were massively dominated by Porsches and Porsche still failed to win? Individual accounts don't add up to much.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 12:19:59 PM
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@ tierryhenry, the Camry is not an entry level vehicle, and there are plenty of other vehicles to choose from. And it's nice to see you admit to having pink sunglasses on. What is your opinion when the field is stacked with mostly porsches and someone else wins? lol!


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:31:31 PM
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my opinion in that instance is that unless all the porsches in the race are conspiring against non-porsches, it doesnt matter. Each car is exclusive of one another, so how many Porsches being in the field doesnt matter.

If you are into motorsports at all, which it is obvious you are not, a TRG Porsche 911 will get as much help from another team with a Porsche 911 as it will from a Rahal Letterman M3. So in that case, I would say its a shame they didnt win, but it doesn't matter much because the cars are not conspiring to fight non-Porsches.

If it were the case that Porsche Factory team fields 50% of the cars and they fail to win, that would be sad. But if independent teams fill the field with what happens to be Porsches, and the individual teams failed to win, then so be it...


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:36:05 PM
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And yes Joe,
comparing people buying Camrys for the street and people buying Porsches for the track shows your shallow depth of knowledge about motorsports (among other things)...


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 2:05:11 PM
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Apparently you're not mentally competent enough to comprehend that comparison. If you want to enter into a race series, what is the single thing that will sway your opinion the most as to which car you'll buy? Simply, you'll run what most other ppl run. It's funny just how mindless racers can be, I was on a racing team long enough to know that people are more willing to "setup" their car according to how another team says they set theirs up, then to suit their individual driver. How does this compare to Camries? Simple, many people who buy camries buy them simply because they see them lots and assume they must be good cars lol!


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 3:27:16 PM
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joe, obviously your "racing" is very amatuer at best. Setting up based on others is quite possibly the worst step to take. you start with a base to work with, personal preference, what you can afford, what works, and then you move onto personalizing the vehicle to suit the driver based on the track and driving characteristic of the vehicle on a particular surface and temp.




Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 6:10:17 PM
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oh, everybody knows that. But when your driver doesn't know how to push the car any better than they are doing, teams get desperate, especially lap after lap your car is falling behind.


100octane100octane - 1/30/2011 6:26:39 AM
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Porsche's motorsport products cost a fortune and they're selling them like hotcakes. every other company would give their left arm to have sales numbers like this and that's a disadvantage in your eyes joe?

i don't know about your problems with Porsche, but you trolling is getting annoying. When did you start caring about motorsport? i mean you shouldn't talk about things you don't know or understand


AJIndyAJIndy - 1/30/2011 6:05:57 PM
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I don't see how there's any question it's the 911 by a large margin. There's a reason why so many people have bought and raced 911s and their derivatives over the years-Porsche makes a competitive and reliable racer that gives teams a great deal for their money. What other production based car or its derivatives has won all of the major endurance races overall, including as recently as the 2003 Daytona 24 hrs


MorePowerMorePower - 1/30/2011 6:06:39 PM
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No, the 911 is not the greatest sports car ever built!


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 10:38:19 AM
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If you bother to even read, not the article but the headline, its not asking about 'greatest sports car'. Its talking about 'greatest racer'.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 1/31/2011 8:59:02 AM
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Who cares at this point! Did Joe get his ten grand????

Good case though, 00R!


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 12:37:10 PM
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YES, the Porsche 911, in my opinion, is the Greatest Racer ever built, if greatest is measured by victories...


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 1/31/2011 2:07:25 PM
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what if it's measured by losses? lol, It's also the single most losing vehicle hahaha


ThierryHenry14ThierryHenry14 - 1/31/2011 3:29:12 PM
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you see Joe, I disagreed with you above, but understood your position. Now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing, which makes me have nothing further to say, because I'm not having a conversation with someone near the boundaries of having logic...


100octane100octane - 1/31/2011 9:57:18 PM
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could someone please shut up that troll?


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