WHERE THE HELL Are The Clean Diesel Crossovers? @#$$#%%!

WHERE THE HELL Are The Clean Diesel Crossovers? @#$$#%%!
If there was one giant mystery that still remains unsolved, it would have to be WHY aren't there clean diesel crossover vehicles? Think: this is one of the hottest selling segments and there has yet to be a diesel variant in the States.

Take, for example, the 2011 BMW X3. The car is all over the place in the New York tri-state area yet we haven't heard word about its stellar diesel variant making its way here. Consider this: the X3 Diesel can get 37 mpg, as seen by our friends The Diesel Driver. While that's not too bad, TDD even saw upwards of 50 mpg in the combined EU fuel economy test cycle.

Peculiar there is no urgency to get the vehicle on our shores.

Why not a Mercedes-Benz GLK diesel or how about the Cadillac SRX or upcoming Range Rover Evoque?

Audi has said that the Q5 TDI will be here in the next 24 - 30 months -- this was in March.

Considering the success seen with the diesel Q7, why are manufacturers dragging their feet with diesel crossovers?


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Agent001Agent001 - 5/11/2011 11:07:54 PM
-1 Boost
After a careful reading from the AutoSpies.com BS Decoder, I'm calling out ALL these manufacturers for PURPOSELY dragging their feet and NOT bringing in products like the X3, GLK, Countryman, SRX, XC90, Evoke, RR Sport, MDX, etc., etc., etc.

I've heard ALL you're stories but I'm not buying what you're selling.

If you guys were REALLY serious about fuel economy you would have brought in the models that people wanted the most.

Plain and simple...They WANT a smaller SUV for it's utility with economy car mileage.

Tired of all of your spin games.

Get these bad boys out NOW!!

001




chewychewy - 5/12/2011 12:16:45 AM
+5 Boost
Could be because the cost would be too high? Another reason could be packaging the hardware required to make them 50 state legal.


Agent001Agent001 - 5/12/2011 12:30:44 AM
-1 Boost
Lame excuse.

They're spending BILLIONS to develop high end, expensive hybrids that NO ONE wants.

The cost to modify diesel engines to be 50 state compliant is PEANUTS compared to what they're throwing away on hybrids.

001


chewychewy - 5/12/2011 1:31:07 AM
+2 Boost
Probably. Another problem with diesels is that the EPA underrates them considerably so a V6 diesel Q5 for example might not look that much more impressive MPG wise than the 2.0T.


truckmantruckman - 5/12/2011 4:56:23 AM
+1 Boost
Diesels are like 20% more efficient, can you imagine if everyone got one and burned 20% less fuel, that is 20% less gas tax. Gov...less money...


atc98092atc98092 - 5/12/2011 7:56:23 AM
+4 Boost
I consider 20% conservative. My Jetta 2.5 gas averages 25 with my normal commute. I've driven my daughter's 2009 Jetta TDI over the exact route and get 40 or better. I took it on a road trip from Seattle to the Oregon coast, two days there, and back to Seattle over the mountains, and the entire trip average was 44.5. Straight freeway crusing was right around 50mpg. That's 40% or better than my gas version of the same car.

I would buy a new Tiguan in a heartbeat with this TDI engine.


truckmantruckman - 5/12/2011 3:37:59 PM
+1 Boost
I want one too, impressive real world mileage.


truckmantruckman - 5/12/2011 4:56:23 AM
+1 Boost
Diesels are like 20% more efficient, can you imagine if everyone got one and burned 20% less fuel, that is 20% less gas tax. Gov...less money...


WhelanWhelan - 5/12/2011 7:56:52 AM
+1 Boost
I think your confusing crossover, because 90% of those cars fit in the Small SUV, Mid-size SUV category.

X3 = small SUV
GLK = small SUV
Countryman = CUV (got one right)
SRX = small SUV
XC90 mid-size SUV
RR Sport = small SUV
MDX = mid-size SUV

Crossover would apply to cars such as the BMW X6, Toyota Venza, Honda Crosstour, Ford Edge, etc.


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 5/12/2011 11:40:13 AM
+1 Boost
If it doesn't go off-road it's a cross over.


atc98092atc98092 - 5/12/2011 7:46:03 PM
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Those all all too big for me, although I really like both the Touareg and the ML. Same with the Q7. Really nice, but too big and too expensive.

The Q5, X3 or Tiguan would be my preferred size. VW has a version of the 2.0 TDI that has 170hp compared to the 140hp version they bring to the US. Yeah, it would need urea, but they are going to have to certify the 140hp engine with urea for the new Passat, so why not get it in the smaller rigs as well, since they'll need urea too?


r_driver04r_driver04 - 5/13/2011 10:54:10 AM
+1 Boost
In the long run diesel may be cheaper but right now most Americans are putting only $6 in their tank at a time. lol! They can't see past Saturday afternoon.


toolatetoracetoolatetorace - 5/12/2011 10:40:26 AM
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If the oil zars would have a pattern for which is higher , gas or diesel, the auto makers might build them build them It seems that the oil xaes are wise to this and will make the diesel fuel higher sometime or lower sometimes that gasoline . .


theoptimisticpessimisttheoptimisticpessimist - 5/12/2011 11:41:59 AM
0 Boost
Relax the diesel X3 is on it's way you should see it this fall.


atc98092atc98092 - 5/12/2011 5:20:32 PM
+1 Boost
I'll believe that when I see one at the dealership. I've heard late 2012 at the earliest.


r_driver04r_driver04 - 5/13/2011 10:55:50 AM
+2 Boost
For $58,500 you too can put one in your garage. LOL!


r_driver04r_driver04 - 5/13/2011 10:51:30 AM
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Sure diesels get excellent gas mpg but the cost per gallon is quite a bit higher than gas! What gets me is the fact the diesel fuel is the crap leftover after the refining process that yields gasoline. Why are they charging more for diesel than gas? It's game is what it is. There really is know reason for the higher price.

Now add that to the price of your X3 diesel and you've got an expensive to own and drive compact/mid-size suv. If diesel were a lot cheaper than we'd see the OEMs brining more models over but it aint gonna happen anytime soon.


2ndbimmer2ndbimmer - 5/13/2011 12:59:37 PM
+2 Boost
because the american market doesnt understand diesel! the 2% of america that read autospies.com may appreciate it, but the other 98% is too stupid to believe it!


tangotango - 5/16/2011 5:44:05 PM
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The load of crap claim that diesel is too expensive still persists. I'm here in South Florida and the cost of disel by and large is the same as 89 octane. Only 87 octane (regular) is cheaper. So in general it's right in the middle and is about 10c per gallon more expensive than 87. If atc98092's experience is typical, the extra 15 miles his daughter can drive costs her only 10c. His extra 15 miles would cost him an extra $2.34 or so (assuming he uses 87 at a cost of $3.90 and diesel costs $4.00). The higher cost of diesel is really a reflection of the quantity that is extractable from a barrel of oil (ie, less than gasoline). If biodiesel production from algae (ie, non-food stocks) is ramped up then more would be available for general consumption and hence lower the price significantly.


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