SPIED: EXPOSED! The BEST Option On The Next-Gen M5 Is...

LOL what kind of car are you looking for, a luxury sedan or a sports car? Because the 911 and 5 series are totaly different cars, and are not normaly cross shopped..

a low revving engine in an M5, I thought I'll never see that day. I guess things change.

Redline is 7000 RPM, which is hardly low, especially for a twin turbo. Incidentally, that's the same as the beloved E39 M5, and higher than every other M5 except the E60. So unless you never knew the M5 existed before the E60, you already saw the day the M5 didn't rev to 8250 -- it was "every day in history before 2006".

You obviously do not know what your talking about.The E39 redlined at 7K...The F10's redline is higher than that.

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Should rev more than 7000rpm. Pretty much every car out there can do that. What is it? A diesel engine? LOL!!

I expected a screamer, not a loper.

As much as I love the BMW M's performance division or BMW in general they really need to get rid of that Cheap hard looking plastic that they use in their interior. I mean you're paying an arm and leg for their car I would expect a more luxurious interior.

lexus: sit in a F10 5-series. and then recant your statement.

Great news! But I would opt for the DCT anyways.

there are VASTLY fewer buttons in a bmw than mercedes, lexus or porsche. besides, i don't even use the buttons since virtually everything works through idrive.

"I C BMW is still using those chicklets gum sized buttons ALL over the interior. You got to have those ghetto press-on nails to push those tiny buttons"

- What's wrong with buttons? They add warmth and ambience. Not to mention they look cool (especially when lit). What would you prefer? Plain, unused, boring, plastic and leather panels? It’s a car interior, not the inside of a coffin.

I'm glad they have buttons. The interior would look cold, dark, Spartan and drab without them. Like how the E60's interior looked when BMW first released it. They improved the look and functionality of the E60's interior by adding buttons. Without the buttons the interior was beyond boring.

manual transmission hmmm i will say no thanks. back in the day when manual was faster and you got something better for choosing manual (ex infinity g35 coupe 2006 more horsepower then ok) but now a days forget it. 95% of us can not drive stick to the limits to beat an automatic anyway nevermind now that its physically impossible to shift faster then the dct or pdk transmissions. unless you live in a rural area where roads are open and you can have the fun to sacrifice getting a manual then go for it but i live in nyc my last 2 cars were and are stick 2006 g35 coupe and 2009 m3 convert and i must say i will never drive manual again but i must say on the turnpike or garden state parkway on a long drive manual sure is a lot of fun.

"but i must say on the turnpike or garden state parkway on a long drive manual sure is a lot of fun."

- Just put the Dual Clutch Transmission in manual mode. I have more fun with the dual clutch than with a manual.

I guess people who still prefer the best option on the next gen M5 probably never get stuck in traffic, where they have to press the clutch pedal 600 times. They're also likely under the illusion that you can launch a car faster with a manual than the launch-control-equipped dual-clutch transmissions. The 6MT (or 7MT) is so analog it's like watching sports without high-definition.

"The 6MT (or 7MT) is so analog it's like watching sports without high-definition."

You mean like watching sports live vs over a hdtv? That's a good analogy.

It's called feeling connected to your car. Certainly, as a race car driver you want every millisecond advantage, but as a car enthusiast, your driving experience and objective is vastly different. That's not to say a manual is always desirable - slow bumper to bumper traffic everyday is not why you'd get a manual. But if you like to take your cars out on a weekend jaunt through winding roads or on the track, then the manual really let's you feel like a part of the car. But this is personal, some people hate shifting, period, so it's not for everyone.

I hope that you are not saying that a double clutch system is only effective on the autobahn? What are you saying?

Dual clutch transmissions allow you to shift for yourself. You can drive around in 1st gear all day if you want to. Why do you think that dual clutch transmissions doesn't allow you to shift for yourself?

The manual transmission is so old-school. Not to mention counterproductive. After owning a Dual-clutch transmission, I’ll never go back to the old-school style transmission.

Ferrari doesn't even have a manual for the 458. They pretty much told the purists that they don't know crap if they prefer a manually operated clutch (and didn’t even bother to offer it). You think they lost any sales?

The Veyron, new Lambo Aventador. Almost every new performance car will have that setup. People who prefer the clutch pedal are just stubborn and hard-headed. And don’t really care which setup is actually more effective. Glad I'm not them.

I don't think it really comes down to which is more effective. You can always make the argument that even early autos allowed you to forgo the shifting function. And i won't argue that dct isn't faster or cleaner, but there is something to be said for a perfect heel toe downshift, or being a little more involved than flicking your fingers. DCT is just the new auto, for people who want to spend the money and complain about "shifting 600 times". i know what i got myself into and wouldn't trade it for the world. By the way, i also don't like fast food, i play my sports and like rocking back and forth at the lights.

Then stick with the dinosaur. The closer the shifting can resemble race car shifts the better imo. Ferrari said later to you guys and moved to the better transmission. Whether you realize that fact or not, its up to you.

Heel toe downshifts? I don't have to get every extremity involved in order to enjoy driving.

My mom switches gears with her flappy paddles. You have been domesticated where you want to realize it or not.

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Ferrari also has an amusement park.....

"Ferrari also has an amusement park"

- And what's your point?

"Ferrari also has an amusement park"

- And what's your point?

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