Is The UAW Poised To Sell Out Rank And File Raises For A Boost In Membership?

I think the right question is:

"Is the UAW even relevant anymore outside Michigan?"

or

"Is the UAW anything more than a voting block and fund raising arm of the Democrat party?"

Just like Oil companies and other major corporations are the fundrasing arm of the GOP.

Oil companies and other major companies create Jobs and Products for consumers. Where as the UAW survives by sucking the tit of its members and the Public unions suck the tit of the American tax payer. So if I had a choice, I'll pick Oil companies and the Corporations.

"Oil companies and other major companies create Jobs and Products for consumers. Where as the UAW survives by sucking the tit of its members and the Public unions suck the tit of the American tax payer. So if I had a choice, I'll pick Oil companies and the Corporations."

- Oil Companies pollute the environment, Contaminate drinking water, Destroys marshlands; ruins air quality, kills wildlife and marine life destroys beaches, And much more. Gets gifted billions of dollars of tax payer money every year despite being one of the most profitable corporations (money from the poor and giving it to the rich). And that’s who you are with? LOL!!! I guess none of that stuff matters to you as long as they create jobs?

"Lexsucks,
I suggest you go look at the contributions done by BP to Obama.
Oil companies fund all politicians. Your uneducated hatred of the GOP is comical, and delusional." - 1911

- They don't fund all polititians. You are the person who needs educating. And I'm no fan of Obama (he sucks, still better than anyone from the GOP). Obama is a Moderate republican in disquise. Hatred of the GOP? Yes. They will ruin the country if left to their own devices. They almost did it in 1998. With folks like you providing support. maybe they can finish off the job in 2012.

I meant 2008 not 1998. The country was doing good in 1998.

BSBB,

You guys keep repeating the same old sour, unfounded, ridiculously exaggerated criticisms. Like your use of the word "socialist" Do you even know what the word means? And yes I am center left. Is something wrong with that?

Socialist, being on the far left end of the spectrum without being communist. Socialists try to push government programs such as free health care, free schooling, welfare for all, while maintaining a free market idealization that keeps them from becoming wholly communist.

Lets look at what Obama is doing, he is creating free health care! how is this anything but socialist?

So I guess a sick poor person should just die because they don't have any money for health care? This is the only country in the world where that's even questioned. In every other country, a life is more important than money. Not in the U.S.A. I hope we/you are proud. Americans treats poor people worse than they do their pets. Right Wing Social engineering is what's really happening. Obama is trying to prevent it.

I live in socialist Canada, you asked what socialism is, and I told you. We all know you're very left wing, but to argue that Obama isn't socialist just goes to show how left on that spectrum you are!

We've always had free schooling and welfare (for the last 70 years or so). Why is it that when Obama becomes President, people refer to him as being a socialist, while at the same time every president from the previous 70 years resided over those same socialist programs? and yet those presidents weren't referred to as socialists. Double standard anyone? I’m not surprised; Obama has been subjected to a double standard from the day he took office. If you can’t see that then you are blind.

And his healthcare bill was modeled after Mitt Romney’s (a republican) health care plan. So tell me what makes Obama different from the past presidents and politicians that would make anyone deem him as a socialist, while at the same time giving the other politicians a pass?

And I’m not far left? Give me a break. I voted for bush in 04 and if the GOP had a viable candidate, I’d vote against Obama in 2012. Heck if an independent was appealing enough I’d vote for that candidate over Obama. I’d even vote for Ron Paul over Obama. Next!!

he is considered socialist because he is enforcing new socialist policies, not because of grandfathered policies.

Is that such a hard concept?

As to who you'd vote for, I don't care where you place your vote, based on your continuing support for universal healthcare, and your angst of ceo's earning more then the average person, I'd say your very left regardless of who you vote for.

"he is considered socialist because he is enforcing new socialist policies,"

- And what would those socialists policies be? The Mitt Romney like republican Health Care Plan? You got to come better than that.


"As to who you'd vote for, I don't care where you place your vote, based on your continuing support for universal healthcare, and your angst of ceo's earning more then the average person, I'd say your very left regardless of who you vote for."

- Very left? You are reaching. And also very wrong. I have both conservative and liberal views. And they’re republicans that support (and even implemented) that same healthcare plan. Angst against CEO's making more than the Average person? This is beyond funny. I don't think that the average person should make as much as CEO LOL!!. How you came to that conclusion is beyond me.

For the record I'm for everyone paying their fair share. I'm not for hedge fund managers enjoying a tax rate that is lower than their secretaries’ tax rate. I’m not for cuts to social security, education and the Arts, while at the same time giving even larger tax breaks to millionaires and corporations. If that makes people consider me far left or a socialist then so be it.

Joe_Limon,

It’s also funny how you backed off of your free schooling and welfare for all comments once it was brought to your attention that Obama didn't implement those policies. It’s funny that you blame Obama for those policies and call him a socialist because of it, while ignoring the fact that about a dozen other presidents resided over the same policies. And yet they were never called "socialists". Why is that?

How did I come to the CEO conclusion? Simple, many of the posts you have made on UAW threads were trying to turn the tables and ask why CEO's are making so much.

If you don't think health care is socialist, stop talking about politics. You're doing yourself more harm then good.

I never backed off on them, I just never elaborated past those policies having been grandfathered into the system. Its a simple concept that doesn't need elaborating.