Ford Pulls Commercial After White House Questions If It Is A Policy Attack

Ford Pulls Commercial After White House Questions If  It Is A Policy Attack

For the only Detroit automaker that didn't take the money of the federal auto bailouts, Ford Motor Co. keeps paying a price for its comparative success and self-reliant turnaround.

There's no help from American taxpayers to help lighten its debt load, giving crosstown rivals comparatively better credit ratings and a financial edge Ford is working diligently to erase all on its own.

There's no clause barring a strike by hourly workers amid this fall's national contract talks with the United Auto Workers — a by-product of the taxpayer-financed bailout that General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC retain until 2015.

 

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LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 2:32:04 PM
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And replace Obama with whom? Perry? LOL!!! Too far right for the middle. 2012 will be Obama's re-election year. Oh yeah... Michelle Bachman? LOL!!!, Herman Cain? hahahahahahah!!!!!, Romney the flip-flopper? ROTFLMAO!!!! It’s so funny to hear people claim that Obama will be gone in 2012 without realizing that he will be running against a brainless religious idiot. But if that’s who you’d rather have? More power to you.

It isn't that Obama can't be defeated. It's just that the other side doesn't have any viable candidates. Every single GOP candidate makes Obama look like a Harvard Scholar (Oh… I forgot. Obama is a Harvard Scolar). This is too easy.



LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:30:26 PM
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"Yeap, Lexsucks is a typical Democrat. Just look how many tasteless insults he used in that one post"

- Yeah... And the Rebulicans never insulted Obama (or any other Democrat) personally? Wow!! Why do you only pay attention to the Democrats, while ignoring the fact that the republicans are doing the same thing?


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:46:08 PM
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"Lex...I have come to the conclusion that you have been brainwashed by the liberal, socialist ideologies of Obama and his cronies, and there is no way to 'show you the light'. I am beginning to think that you must somehow be related to Obama (like his illegal immigrant uncle), as only a relative would so foolishly defend him.

“Lex...I have come to the conclusion that you have been brainwashed by the liberal, socialist ideologies of Obama and his cronies, and there is no way to 'show you the light'. I am beginning to think that you must somehow be related to Obama (like his illegal immigrant uncle), as only a relative would so foolishly defend him.”

- And I’ve come to the conclusion that you have been brainwashed by corporate interests (and red-neck America). I’m not defending Obama (I’m not even a fan of Obama). I’m defending facts which seem to not be in vogue these days.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 5:12:13 PM
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Just because you guys are attacking Obama doesn't mean that I'm defending him. Like I said. I'm no Obama fan. I'm a fan of facts. You guys aren't


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 2:44:13 PM
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"lol you're a troll 1911, there is no winning against a troll." — Joe_Limon



LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 3:39:10 PM
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Lies? Nope. But At least I don’t say crap, and then when pressed with facts, skip to the next argument. Rather than admit that you said something that was stupid.

Take this for example:

You said "Yeap, Lexsucks is a typical Democrat. Just look how many tasteless insults he used in that one post."

And I replied with "Yeah... And the Republicans never insulted Obama (or any other Democrat) personally?"

You didn't even answer my question because it exposed you as being a hypocrite. You quickly moved on to the next argument. When pressed with facts this is what you do. You ignore and move on to the next argument hoping that no one noticed that you made yourself look foolish.


LauderdaleDriverLauderdaleDriver - 9/30/2011 10:37:42 AM
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I'd like those opposed to "bailouts" to identify for me an automobile manufacturer that was not bailed out, or is not up to its eyeballs in government grants, gifts, bribes.

There are none.

Bush did the right thing by bailing out GM/Chrysler. Millions of jobs were saved.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 12:44:18 PM
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What I don't understand is that the UAW has in its contract that it can't strike for GM or Chrysler until a certain date. Yet, it can strike at Ford, Ford is arguably the poorest of the three right now since it has the most debt on its shoulders. Because Ford didn't take the bailout doesn't mean that they are the most stable company... yet the union seems to think they are gold compared to the others.


LauderdaleDriverLauderdaleDriver - 9/30/2011 10:39:58 AM
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Good point. It remains to be seen if Ford will be able to pay off its debts.........or compete with GM and Chrysler, reorganized under bankruptcy with cleaner slates.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 9/27/2011 12:45:35 PM
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"Ford SUPPORTED the bailouts before Congress, in public statements and still does today, despite the recurring snarkiness you hear around its offices in Dearborn that it "didn't take the money."

No, it didn't. But Ford did seek a line of credit from the FEDS, borrowed BILLIONS under a government program to "retool" its plants and effectively FAILED first. That's why it recruited a superstar CEO from Boeing Co. and gave him some $23 billion in BORROWED MONEY to save the Blue Oval from bankruptcy"


Intelligence escapes some people!! Party politics is a motherfucker!!!






Agent009Agent009 - 9/27/2011 12:55:06 PM
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Ford supported the bailout because without GM or Chrysler the supply chain would then fail and take them with it.

It is all about realizing what side your toast is buttered on.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 9/27/2011 1:06:35 PM
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"Ford supported the bailout because without GM or Chrysler the supply chain would then fail and take them with it."


Then create your own supply chain, Agent!! "...independent, freedom-loving enterprises" can do just that!!! I am sure it's simple for "...legitimate, self-reliant business-owners!!"



"It is all about realizing what side your toast is buttered on."

There is a word for people who talk out of BOTH sides of their mouth, Agent!!!




Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 1:40:59 PM
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you do realize that you can't just snap your fingers and have an entire supply chain rerouted right?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 2:27:41 PM
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hey while we're on the subject of discrediting each other, you still haven't replied as to where I said it only took one week. What's up with that?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 4:41:48 PM
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Why would you wait on me on a completely different topic? Regardless, I've already posted a simple measure of both vehicles emissions. You apparently want better so I put the ball back back in your court to find that better data.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 5:28:02 PM
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here you go again, you can't argue directly against what I said so you divert and manipulate my argument into something it never was.

If I were to spend the time researching and posting links showing the specific emissions of the viper and contrasted that to other links showing the the current emissions regulations for the entire usa you would divert again and start spewing some nonsense about California emissions laws.

lol you're a troll 1911, there is no winning against a troll.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/27/2011 5:30:47 PM
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I stand by my original argument that direct CO2 output is proportional to the amount of other other emissions. If the Viper put out 50% more CO2 it would put out 50% more regulated emissions.

Oh wait, 1911 you don't believe that, you believe that if the Viper put out 50% more CO2 that it would have 50% fewer regulated emissions lol!

Oh man am I enjoying doing what you do to me by turning your argument into something it isn't.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 9/28/2011 3:01:07 PM
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1911 continues to babble about the LFA having fewer emissions then the Viper even though nothing he has said so far has provided any evidence that is true.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 9/27/2011 1:15:04 PM
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A socialist who went to HARVARD, that bastion of American privilege!!! That's rich!!! And black too!!


(Should have stayed in law school with a clear focus on making billions, having a corporate office in Dubai, buying a BBJ, a yacht from Lurssen, and lining his own pockets at the expense of the masses!! With some Wall Street swaps and oil revenue thrown in for good measure!!)


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 2:35:29 PM
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"A socialist who went to HARVARD, that bastion of American privilege!!! That's rich!!! And black too!!"

- I can see how that can make some people in America upset. I mean; How dare he!!! I'm surprised that they aren't trying to discredit his Harvard accomplishments.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:41:23 PM
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I knew it wouldn't take long for someone here to TRY to discredit his Harvard achievements.


“"preferential treatment" in his admissions, as Harvard has "minority quotas" to fill, right?” — BSBB

- Why do you think that the only way that someone like Obama can make it through Harvard is to have preferential treatment? Is it not possible for someone like Obama (a minority) to actually be smart enough?


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 5:03:33 PM
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He isn't hiding his transcripts. It's just insulting to him that people would even ask. Did anyone ask for GWs transripts?

And you still didn't answer this: Why do you think that the only way that someone like Obama can make it through Harvard is to have preferential treatment? Is it not possible for someone like Obama (a minority) to actually be smart enough?

Your silence speaks volumes.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 2:51:58 PM
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Sometimes you have to know when to quit. That's what I did here. It's hard to argue with the "Pitchfork and Shovel" crowd. Which you seem to be a proud member.

You guys cheer at the mention of someone being executed, applaud when it was mentioned that a person would die because they didn’t have Health Insurance, and booed a Gay Service Member. You guys are Barbarians and have an 18th century mentality. If everything was left up to people like you America will be in worse shape than it’s in now.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 3:30:16 PM
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"Glad to see you finally admitted you are wrong! It was best that you give up trying to defend your lies!"

- Oh Please. If anything I've been more honest than you. I just did something that you will never do. Either that or you are never wrong. Either way, good luck with the pitchforks and shovels.

At least I answer direct questions and don't avoid them:

Remember this:
the Republicans never insulted Obama (or any other Democrat) personally? Why haven't you answered this?


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 3:52:39 PM
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" Do people really believe his birth certificate is 'official'?" - 1911

"Not to mention his SSN." - -911


- Yep. He isn't even human. The Anti-Christ doesn't have a SSN or a birth certificate.

But seriously. Doesn't Obama have a Passport? Dont you have to provide proof of where you were born to get a passport? Passport administation is very scrict. How do you suppose the Anti-Christ got pass that one? So basically you're saying that Obama got a Passport with a fake birth certificate? Dude, Do you realize how stupid that sounds? Put down the Pitchfork.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 9/27/2011 1:30:09 PM
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I can see how some animals could eat their young!!!


Larrybel2000Larrybel2000 - 9/27/2011 2:07:26 PM
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Where can I pick up a shirt like that.


PUGPROUDPUGPROUD - 9/27/2011 3:56:15 PM
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Today parked in a handicap spot illegally was a brand new Cadillac with government plates and a placard on its windshield that read "OFFICIAL
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION." When I asked the driver about the car and being in a handicap spot he said "The Obama administration wants us to buy GM cars and mind your own f**king business." This kind of spending and attitude is what is wrong with government in general and its messing with the capitalist system. Compete or die. Its the fear of failure that drives people to success not handouts !


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:07:28 PM
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So you're blaming Obama for someone parking illegally in a handicapped parking spot? LOL!! You also seem to be blaming this guys attitude on Obama? You are reaching.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:31:55 PM
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@1911

You just showed your true colors. Why would you even reference the "back of the bus"? Thanks for playing.


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 4:50:08 PM
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Why quote a man who you obviously despise? And that still doesn't take away the fact that someone here was trying to blame someone parking illegally in a handicapped spot on Obama. Nice little shift you did there (since you couldn't address that fact).


LexSucksLexSucks - 9/27/2011 5:14:38 PM
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It's comical how you attack (and blame everything on) Obama while ignoring the fact that America was messed up long before he took office.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 9/28/2011 9:34:19 AM
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You should have kicked his ass for talking to you like that. I would have been all in his face ready to open a can had to spoken to me like that.



LexSucksLexSucks - 9/28/2011 4:31:30 PM
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At least he doesn't have 8+ multiple accounts on Autospies. Question? Why do you have so many accounts?


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 9/28/2011 9:36:25 AM
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Someone had to pay the CEO's quarterly bonus


LauderdaleDriverLauderdaleDriver - 9/30/2011 10:35:28 AM
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First, let's remember it was Bush/Cheney who bailed out GM and Chrysler, by diverting TARP money when Congress balked. It was not Obama, although he continued the policy.

Secondly, Badgewhore is partly correct. Ford did not take bailout money because it was in much WORSE shape than GM or Chrysler prior to the credit crisis, and it mortgaged itself to the hilt in 2006. Ford entered the CREDIT crisis sitting on a pile of borrowed money, not because they were moral, but because they were already on their knees- GM and Chrysler were not in a position to borrow money, because banks had none to lend in 2008. The economic collapse is, once again, a credit crisis.

Ford is on record as having supported the bailouts, because they knew that if GM and Chrysler went under, the entire US supply chain would collapse, taking them with it (along with Toyota and Honda, etc US operations.) Ford was also prepared to take money if required later. Many manufacturers didn't take bailout money for manufacturing, but they did take it for credit operations (BMW).

Currently, the money that House Republicans want to cut to pay for FEMA funds goes to building Ford's hybrids and coming electric cars. It's not like they don't take federal money.

I am a "Ford Guy," but I found the ads repulsive and not quite honest.


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