Fossil-Fuel Emissions Rise The Most Since The Industrial Revolution

That is typical of what is outside my window on the bad days. Almost the exact vantage point.

Ice core samples are used for that time frame and are very accurate.

@BSBB

When did you become a scientist? You know nothing about science and even less about the climate. But that doesn't stop you from spewing your ignorance filled tirade. What background do you have to hold a credible discussion on this subject? Answer: None.

Only in America where you’ll find the average Joe claiming to know more about science than a scientist. LOL!!! Dumb is the new Smart in the U.S.A. Enjoy!!

Hmmm, lexsucks, we've debatably burned our way through half our oil reserves correct? And we've only just hit industrial revolution levels again? Seems like the earth's oceans/plants are sucking it up pretty darn fast.

Joe,

Seems like you are not a scientist. When talking about science, I'd rather listen to what an actual scientist has to say than someone on a car discussion board. Too many arm-chair quarterbacks here that ignore expert opinion and rely on biased news media for scientific information. No wonder why our country is going to crap. We ignore the experts and instead believe whatever crap is spewed out by a talk show host.

Lexsucks, at least I can think for myself. I'm not blindly following the scientists that support my views and discrediting those that don't!

@ BSBB

"Lex....Why do you get so offended when people present perspectives that disagree with yours? It shows your lack of maturity. But that is no surprise based on all of the other comments you make"

- What? How do you perceive that I am offended? I'm not offended. Answering back doesn't mean that I'm offended. And if you take it that way, it means that you view counter opinions to yours as a conflicts.

Wow, I didn't realize we were polluting that little! Think about it, industrial revolution times had a handful of countries polluting. A small small fraction of the earths population. And even in the "civilized" countries at the time there were no cars or massive electric grids powering peoples lives.

Yeah Joe, The Earth is an unlimited resource. Or at least you think it is. Let me break something to you. The earth isn’t a unlimited resource.

Unlimited resource? I do believe one of my comments above raised the point that we are about half way through our existing resources.

That said, you're kind of right, I believe in algael fuels lol! So in a way I do believe that oil at least is a potentially unlimited resource.

And the GOP wants to get rid of the EPA. LOL!!!!

hmmm... no epa... that would be nice. People would be free to choose vehicles based on their own needs wants and desires instead of the superimposed desires of the self righteous.

Having the EPA around is like legally enforcing religion.

So you'd rather have cars spewing out exhuast smoke everywhere? And factories polluting the air? Are you for dirty air or against it? You seem to be for dirty air. WOW!!!

Lexsucks, I'm for freedom of choice. If people such as yourself want cars that don't emit pollution you'll buy cars that don't emit pollution or emit less of it.

What you just said is on par with me asking an atheist "So you'd rather have untold billions burning in hell without legally enroced religion? You must be a satanist you seem to be all against religion."

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"Lex...You must be a member of Greenpeace."

- You must be a member of the Koch Brothers organization.

"Lexsucks, I'm for freedom of choice. If people such as yourself want cars that don't emit pollution you'll buy cars that don't emit pollution or emit less of it."

- So it's now a right to be able to Pollute? That just doesn't sound right dude. Car exhaust is just like trash. Why would you want to throw your nasty trash everywhere? Oh I forgot…. It’s your right.


"What you just said is on par with me asking an atheist "So you'd rather have untold billions burning in hell without legally enroced religion? You must be a satanist you seem to be all against religion."

- That went over my head. So I’ll ask you this; are you OK with Factories spewing Toxic waste into the air? And I guess you'd also be OK if that Toxic waste flowed through your neighborhood? You seem to be dodging those questions and coming up with unrelated religious analogies instead. Answer the questions and stop dodging them please.

Let me get this straight. Joe_Limon is OK with thousands of vehicles spewing visible exhaust smoke for miles on the highway. He is also OK with Factories spewing toxic waste into the air of residential areas (including schools). What kind of mindset thinks that crap like that is OK? WOW!!!

Is it my right to tell people how much they should clean their house? No! Is it my right to tell people that they can't smoke ever? No! Why should we limit ourselves to ridiculous fuel economy and emissions goals chosen by a select few? If people want to buy a car that gets 10mpg, and emits black smoke everywhere, there is bound to be a reason why lol. People don't just choose to spend more on fuel because it's fashionable.

Of course that went over your head. You don't see how closely your views match the analogies.

I'm ok with factories spewing waste (99.9% of which is simply water vapor), I've lived several blocks from an oil refinery for a number of years, so I know how gross it can get. The obvious choice if that bothers you is to simply not move next to the refinery! lol

visible exhaust smoke is water vapor lol. You can't see carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide or any of the other potentially dangerous waste products.

“Is it my right to tell people how much they should clean their house?“

- What you do in your house doesn’t affect anyone else. Senseless point.


“No! Is it my right to tell people that they can't smoke ever? No!”

- In their house you can’t tell them not to smoke. In a public restaurant you can tell them not to smoke. Not sure why you are bundling what someone does in their private house with what someone does in public? Two different things. Another senseless point.


“Why should we limit ourselves to ridiculous fuel economy and emissions goals chosen by a select few? If people want to buy a car that gets 10mpg, and emits black smoke everywhere, there is bound to be a reason why lol. People don't just choose to spend more on fuel because it's fashionable.”

- So you are OK with breathing in the crap? And I'll admit, some of the future fuel ecomomy and emmision standards are crazy. But what would you rather have? No emmisions standards at all?


“Of course that went over your head. You don't see how closely your views match the analogies.”

- No I don’t. Nor do I care. Just make your point without dumb religous anologies.


“I'm ok with factories spewing waste (99.9% of which is simply water vapor),”

- So what was the clean air act all about if 99.9% was water vapor? I remember 15 or so years ago there was acid rain. The rain would etch permanent marks on vehicles if left to dry. The acid rain was attributed to factory waste in the air. Guess what? The EPA told them to clean up their act and now, no more acid rain. I guess you’d rather have the acid rain?


“I've lived several blocks from an oil refinery for a number of years, so I know how gross it can get. The obvious choice if that bothers you is to simply not move next to the refinery! Lol”

-Move? Anything other than telling the OIL company to clean up their act huh? You are a true shill. Enjoy.

"visible exhaust smoke is water vapor lol."

- So a car that’s out of tune that's burning oil, that smoke is water vapor? And if a car is running ridiculously rich, that smoke is also water vapor? And when you blow a head gasket, that smoke is also water vapor? And if your piston rings go bad, that smoke is also water vapor. Should I go on? I guess it would be OK with you if people drove around cars like that all the time?


"You can't see carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide or any of the other potentially dangerous waste products."

- No $hit. But it's those same "potentially dangerous waste products" that you seem to not care if megatons of it are emmited into the air?

That senseless point was brought on by your senseless point stating that people shouldn't be allowed to pollute.

So it's ok to stop people from smoking as long as they are close to you, but cars have to limit emissions even if you aren't anywhere near them? Real equal terms you have there, but no, again it's a senseless point because it goes against your argument.

Again i'll bring up the smoking comparison. You're ok with people smoking, as long as they don't do it next to you, but you aren't ok with factory emissions even if they don't affect you? A bit hypocritical now are you? People don't have to live next to factories or refineries, that is a choice they make and as such have to live with the consequences. It's kind of like how you have the choice to not enter a smokers house.

Here I'll explain it in terms even you should be able to understand. Religion=Green Views, forcing people to follow either will limit the individual freedoms of everybody. Greenies such as yourself call out people who don't share their views as "pro-pollution" (which strangely enough you've done a few times now) much as Religious people call out athiests or people of other religions as if they were going to burn for eternity for their sins. The two are actually very close and if you can't see the links well that's simply because you're not willing to admit it.

I like how you don't try to disprove my water vapor number, but instead try to make it seem as though I'm pro-acid rain. Truth be told, those effects were localized incidents. If you don't want to live with the acid rain, simply don't live next to factories lol.

Yes move! lol it's not like your life is dependent on you living next to that refinery. lol, would you live next to a sewage plant and tell them to clean up their act because you don't like the smell? No, you simply don't live next to one. Oh but I'm a corporate shill because I don't feel the urge to tell companies to spend billions of dollars to accommodate my wanting to live right next to them without the side effects.

When oil burns, it releases water vapour as well. The soot, that you see leftover on the ground or on their tailpipes is unburned hydrocarbons, they do not float up into the atmosphere, they simply settle out rather quickly due to their large molecular mass. It's comparable to the black soot you get from campfires lol.

This being said, the cloud looking exhaust you see has little to no soot in it, that's why a clean burning vehicle will have clean exhaust tips well into its life.

Megatons eh? You seem to think that the exhausting vapors are made up of 50% water vapor and 50% "bad stuff". No, lol why don't you read up a bit more about emissions and combustions. These "bad" emissions occur in the fractions of a percent, and, depending on the emission being measured are measured in parts per million lol.

Hey, Its only water vapor right. LOL!!!

http://myecoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/acid_rain.gif
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/acid-rain-1a.jpg

Trees killed by Acid rain:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Waldschaeden_Erzgebirge_3.jpg

Lexsucks I feel like a fool, I actually expected more from you. You're almost as bad as 1911, twisting my argument. I stated that the visible part of emissions is only water vapor. You can't even come up with a decent response. I never really expected you to agree with me, doing so would require such a vast change in your personal belief systems. But I did expect you to put up a better fight.

"Lexsucks I feel like a fool, I actually expected more from you. You're almost as bad as 1911, twisting my argument. I stated that the visible part of emissions is only water vapor. You can't even come up with a decent response. I never really expected you to agree with me, doing so would require such a vast change in your personal belief systems. But I did expect you to put up a better fight

- What about the part that isn't visible? It seems as tough you are limiting this whole entire argument over what is visible. Serious fail.

"Ignore LexSUCKS. He is a communist Occupier."

- if putting people over corporations makes me a communist, then I'll wear that title proudly.

This is my last reply to you:

“That senseless point was brought on by your senseless point stating that people shouldn't be allowed to pollute.”

-So people should be allowed to pollute? LOL!!!

“So it's ok to stop people from smoking as long as they are close to you, but cars have to limit emissions even if you aren't anywhere near them? Real equal terms you have there, but no, again it's a senseless point because it goes against your argument.”

- If it disturbs or bothers anyone else(in a public place) then I have an issue with it. Where did I imply that it’s OK to pollute as long as it isn’t anywhere near me?

“Again i'll bring up the smoking comparison. You're ok with people smoking, as long as they don't do it next to you, but you aren't ok with factory emissions even if they don't affect you? A bit hypocritical now are you? “

- Now you’re comparing a cigarette with factory emissions. LOL!! I’ve yet to see cigarette smoke described in this manner http://myecoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/acid_rain.gif. Factory emissions don’t have to affect me directly. If it affects someone else, then I can relate. Same goes for cigarettes. Or should we only care about ourselves? Selfish much?

“People don't have to live next to factories or refineries, that is a choice they make and as such have to live with the consequences. It's kind of like how you have the choice to not enter a smokers house.”

- What if the factory moved in after you’ve been in your house for decades? You act as if the factories are always there first. They aren’t. They end up pushing people out of their homes. But you are OK with that. LOL!!

“I like how you don't try to disprove my water vapor number, but instead try to make it seem as though I'm pro-acid rain. Truth be told, those effects were localized incidents. If you don't want to live with the acid rain, simply don't live next to factories lol.”

- Spoke too soon. http://myecoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/acid_rain.gif
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/acid-rain-1a.jpg

Trees killed by Acid rain:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Waldschaeden_Erzgebirge_3.jpg

“Yes move! lol it's not like your life is dependent on you living next to that refinery. lol, would you live next to a sewage plant and tell them to clean up their act because you don't like the smell? No, you simply don't live next to one. Oh but I'm a corporate shill because I don't feel the urge to tell companies to spend billions of dollars to accommodate my wanting to live right next to them without the side effects.”

- Yes move. Let the corporations ruin your way of life. Let the Natural Gas Fracking destroy the drinking water. Move, everybody move, God forbid that we try to tell corporations to clean up their act. Yes you are a corporate shill. You never question or criticize corporations (like they are perfect, LOL!!) but question everything that individuals are doing. You ex

continued...

You expect the individual to react even though it’s the corporations that's dirtying up the air. Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible? The more you speak the more you’re letting people know that you are a corporate shill. Enjoy!!

Lexsucks, it seems to me like you're limiting this whole entire argument over what is visible/not visible. Isn't this argument about whether or not green policies should be government enforced? Not simply debating whether different parts of emissions are visible or not?

All the points that I brought up you've either said you lack understanding or that they don't matter. Presumably the points that don't matter are because they go against your point of view.

And no lexsucks, the thing that would make you communist is the firm belief you have that the world is a better place with restrictions. Restrictions that remove individual freedoms as long as they serve the whole. You want to restrict wages, so that people with less money have more. You want to restrict companies, so that health care and other social programs can help those with none or are too lazy. You want to enforce costly green laws that restrict everyone, so long as you can live next to a refinery and drive down busy roads without having to see smog. You support people who would rather sit around interrupting workflow then actually look for jobs themselves.

These are the things that make you so far left that people assume you are communist. You live in a delusional world where everything would be better if we all just banded together and worked for the "cause", but since we can't do that, you agree mandating strict government penalties and enforcement so that others are forced to follow your views.

"So people should be allowed to pollute? LOL!!!"

Yes, it's their choice, it's their environment. You're not going to send someone to jail for littering now are you?

"Where did I imply that it’s OK to pollute as long as it isn’t anywhere near me?"
You didn't! You're holding smokers to a far different standard, and I was pointing out the flaw in your logic.

"Or should we only care about ourselves? Selfish much? "

lol are you really trying to say that we are being selfish if we don't enforce laws to exert influence over others?

"They end up pushing people out of their homes"

I disagree in most cases the population booms after local industry is installed, people flock to where there is work. How many communities do you know of that existed before there was an industry to support them?

"Spoke too soon."

No, you still have yet to prove that most of the emissions are anything but water vapor. Your cartoony pictures aren't disproving anything lol.

"Trees killed by Acid rain:"

oooh scary, I like how green all the undergrowth is. Did you also know that forest fires kill trees too? Forest fires are also good, they are part of a forests life cycle. Things go wrong when ecocentrics such as yourself try to put them all out, things like extremely large forest fires that we can't control.

I notice that you never commented on the fact that you wouldn't ask a sewage plant to smell less. Why is this? Do you hold them to different standards because they aren't evil corporations?

I know I said I was done but I cant let your BS go unchecked.

"Lexsucks, it seems to me like you're limiting this whole entire argument over what is visible/not visible. Isn't this argument about whether or not green policies should be government enforced? Not simply debating whether different parts of emissions are visible or not?"

- You turned it into that by mentioning that most visible exhaust smoke is 99% vapor (which is BS btw but I’ll go with what you said). My mistake was that I said visible smoke. You ran with that and now won’t let it go. You as well as everyone else knows that I was talking about dangerous emissions weather visible or not

“All the points that I brought up you've either said you lack understanding or that they don't matter. Presumably the points that don't matter are because they go against your point of view.”

- What the hell are you talking about? LOL!!

“And no lexsucks, the thing that would make you communist is the firm belief you have that the world is a better place with restrictions. Restrictions that remove individual freedoms as long as they serve the whole. “

-Yeah. Dumping toxic waste is an individual freedom that we all need. LOL!!

“You want to restrict wages, so that people with less money have more.”

- Wrong. I want to decrease the wage gap. Right now the U.S.A is in the same league as Jamaica when it comes to the wage gap. The U.S.A resembling a 3rd world country is what you seem to want (without realizing it). If everyone subscribed to your beliefs that's where we will be.

“You want to restrict companies, so that health care and other social programs can help those with none or are too lazy. You want to enforce costly green laws that restrict everyone, so long as you can live next to a refinery and drive down busy roads without having to see smog. You support people who would rather sit around interrupting workflow then actually look for jobs themselves.”

- You are going all over the place. Can we stick to emissions? Why the hell are you bringing up the Occupy movement? What are you going to bring up next? Reverend Wright? Kenya? LOL!!!

“These are the things that make you so far left that people assume you are communist. You live in a delusional world where everything would be better if we all just banded together and worked for the "cause", but since we can't do that, you agree mandating strict government penalties and enforcement so that others are forced to follow your views.”

- Who the hell said anything about "strict government penalties"? Is asking a corporation to not destroy the drinking water strict? LOL!! You are beyond funny. And you just love attaching labels to people.

It all boils down to this. You want every person on planet earth to have the right to pollute and dump toxic waste as they please. I don’t. Which view do you think that the earth itself would want the people to subscribe to?

"I notice that you never commented on the fact that you wouldn't ask a sewage plant to smell less. Why is this? Do you hold them to different standards because they aren't evil corporations?"

- Like the things that I said that you didn't comment on?

Like these:

1) What if the factory moved in after you’ve been in your house for decades? You act as if the factories are always there first. They aren’t. They end up pushing people out of their homes. But you are OK with that. LOL!!

2) Yes move. Let the corporations ruin your way of life. Let the Natural Gas Fracking destroy the drinking water. Move, everybody move, God forbid that we try to tell corporations to clean up their act.

3) Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?


I'm going to repeat the last question because for some reason you feel as though corporations should be allowed to do whatever it pleases.

Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?
Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?
Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?
Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?
Why can’t we ask the corporations to be a little more responsible?

one more question that you didn't answer:

So you are OK with breathing in the crap?

"Lex...I am enjoying reading yours and Joe's back-and-forth. But it seems to me that you are becoming a bit emotional over this whole issue."

- Specifically how so? by repeating a question mulitple times that wasn't answered? It just amazes me that some people here do not have a single critical thing to say about corporations, while at the same time hammering the poor. Shills. And I'm not emotional about it. If a person wants to believe crap, then let them.

"To be taken seriously, the Segway-riding, tofu-eating crowd needs to bring realistic solutions to the table that consider the needs of all stakeholders in this 'Green' game, even those who choose to drive gas-guzzling SUVs."

- Why can't the other side participate in making the environment cleaner? Why is it only to the "Segway-riding, tofu-eating crowd" to bring realistic solutions to the table? Where are the solutions from the other side? There aren't any solutions from the other side because they don't believe that pollution exists. Corporations have brainwashed that reality out of their minds. So they sit idle and do nothing but complain about the folks who want to make the planet cleaner (Joe_Limon anyone?).

"Does that sound like a good idea, Lex?"

- Not without participation from the other side. You know the other side that fights for a corporation’s right to pollute (Joe_Limon).

meant to say:

"Why is it only up to the "Segway-riding, tofu-eating crowd" to bring realistic solutions to the table?"


Guess my "emotions" have got the best of me. LOL!!

"You as well as everyone else knows that I was talking about dangerous emissions weather visible or not"

The dangerous emissions are still measured in decimal percentages or ppm.

"What the hell are you talking about? LOL!!"

I'm talking about the religious comparison, and the smoking comparisons, and the comparisons involving other forms of waste.

"Yeah. Dumping toxic waste is an individual freedom that we all need. LOL!!"

So are you saying we should ban garbage dumps next? My, you must live in a wonderful world where people either don't produce garbage or you have magical black holes that just suck it all up!

"Wrong. I want to decrease the wage gap."

Hypocritical much? Decrease wage gap=restricting wages... or boosting individual wages millions of dollars... lol! Even if the average person made twice as much as they do now, the relative difference in the wage gap wouldn't change very much. Only the country would be far less competitive on the global marketplace.

"You are going all over the place. Can we stick to emissions?"

That reply was me explaining why people think you are communist.

"Is asking a corporation to not destroy the drinking water strict?"

LMAO! That's how you intend to change the world? Simply asking people to change? Wow, you're extremely naive, but I suppose that's a good thing. Wouldn't want you ever trying to manipulate legislative powers.

"Which view do you think that the earth itself would want the people to subscribe to?"

I think that the average person values personal freedoms, most not to my extent, but definitely more then you do.

Finally to your points, I did answer the first one, did you not read my replies?

1) "I disagree in most cases the population booms after local industry is installed, people flock to where there is work. How many communities do you know of that existed before there was an industry to support them?"

I'll answer the others in more detail if you wish.

2) Why would you let a corporation ruin your way of life? You act as if they have you tied up in their basement and give you daily beatings. You're in charge of your own life take responsibility for it. If you see a concern do something about it, if the water isn't up to your standards install a filter, or buy water from the grocery market or move somewhere that the water does meet your standards. You have plenty of options.

3) Go ahead ask them. I have no problem with you asking them. Forcing them however is another story. It costs time and money for everyone involved. I do notice however that you switched from a stance that is for protecting the regulations and enforcing new ones, to one that is simply asking out of the goodness of peoples hearts. lol

4) Ok with breathing the crap? I am willing to live past a certain amount, otherwise once past that threshold, I'm willing to move. But if you live next to a large polluting source and you don't move and just complain, that is y

your own idiocy.

Joe, The fact that you do not have a single complaint against corporations speaks volumes. Corporations are just perfect and incapable of doing anything wrong in your mind? It's obvious that I'm arguing with a person who's been brainwashed by corporate interests. Not a single complaint about corporations or Wall St? You'd rather breath in crap, and move from place, to place, to place, rather than ask corporations to do the right thing. WOW!! You are a corporate shill. Enjoy!!!

Oh yeah.. Watch the Documentary Gasland.

"If you see a concern do something about it, if the water isn't up to your standards install a filter, or buy water from the grocery market or move somewhere that the water does meet your standards. You have plenty of options."

- This is a gem. If you aren't happy with your drinking water do everything you can except demand that the people who are polluting the water (the corporations) clean up thier act. Why are you so against holding corporations accountable? Man!!!! You are brainwashed. And besides, what about the wildlife that depends on a clean water supply? Should the animals install a water filter? Buy water from the grocery market? or move somewhere that the water does meet the animals standards? LOL!!!!

So I'm a corporate shill because I value freedom... ok... if you say so.

May I ask what does that make you if you do not have a single good thing to say for corporations? More so, what does that make you if you continue to support the corporations you so despise by giving them your hard earned dollar?

lol at your water comment. Naturally occurring water is dirtier/more diseased then the water in our taps. You act as though without human interference all water sources around the world would be perfectly clean and clear. lol, did you know in many places around the world that mercury is a naturally occurring substance in the water? Trust me, the animals are just fine with water that doesn't come pre filtered and through the tap.

"So I'm a corporate shill because I value freedom... ok... if you say so."

- You define freedom as being able to dump toxic waste where ever you like. LOL!

"May I ask what does that make you if you do not have a single good thing to say for corporations? "

- Not a corporate shill. like you.


"what does that make you if you continue to support the corporations you so despise by giving them your hard earned dollar?"

- Dude... I don't need to go on strike to voice my displeasure.

Any luck with getting those animals to install a water filter? LOL!!!

"Trust me, the animals are just fine with water that doesn't come pre filtered and through the tap."

- Even the water that's been contaminated with the chemicals used for fracking? Now you're a geologist? What don't you pretend to know?

@BSBB I like the way u got all silent after I said this:

Why can't the other side participate in making the environment cleaner? Why is it only to the "Segway-riding, tofu-eating crowd" to bring realistic solutions to the table? Where are the solutions from the other side?

You keep calling me a shill as if it's some sort of swear word. You ok Lexus? I know it's not true, but the amount of time you've dedicated to calling me it makes me think I have your back against the wall in this argument.

"Dude... I don't need to go on strike to voice my displeasure."

oh so you're an admitted hypocrite?

"Any luck with getting those animals to install a water filter?"

I thought that's what you wanted? I'm the one saying they don't need it.

You keep calling me a shill as if it's some sort of swear word. You ok Lexus? I know it's not true, but the amount of time you've dedicated to calling me it makes me think I have your back against the wall in this argument.

- You know its not true? Yet you speak the corporate shill's language.


"Dude... I don't need to go on strike to voice my displeasure."

oh so you're an admitted hypocrite?"

- How is that being a hypocrite? Don't you think its a little extreme for someone to stop dealing with corporations all together, just because they dont like corporations?


"Any luck with getting those animals to install a water filter?"

I thought that's what you wanted? I'm the one saying they don't need it."

- When did you become a geologist?

"How is that being a hypocrite? Don't you think its a little extreme for someone to stop dealing with corporations all together, just because they dont like corporations? "

Don't you think it's a little extreme for someone to dislike all corporations regardless of their background? I'd think that someone with that strong of a belief system that believes all corporations are evil would have the convictions to cut them all out. That being said, I don't think you believe all corporations are evil regardless of what you have previously said.

"When did you become a geologist?"

err uhm... It takes a geologist to not want to install water filters for wildlife? hehe good one LexSucks!

@ Joe_Limon

Funny how you didn't acknowledge the existence of acid rain and where it came from. I guess the climatologist in you knew better than to try to discredit acid rain? But you still think that companies should be allowed to pollute and create acid rain? Right? I mean isn’t that what freedom is all about?

"err uhm... It takes a geologist to not want to install water filters for wildlife? hehe good one LexSucks!"

- No it takes a geologist to determine the danger of chemicals in drinking water and the effect that is has on the surrounding wildlife. Chemicals that you claim has no significance. You are not a geologist. Saying that fracking chemicals doesn’t effect drinking water and the surrounding wildlife is beyond ignorant. I’m sure that any geologist would laugh in your face for making that dumb claim.

Acknowledging acid rain? You mean like this?

"Truth be told, those effects were localized incidents. If you don't want to live with the acid rain, simply don't live next to factories lol."

Jeeze, if you aren't going to read my replies why should I bother writing them lol!

"to determine the danger of chemicals in drinking water and the effect that is has on the surrounding wildlife."

Pretty sure that's what a biologist does lol! Or maybe an environmental engineer. Geologists deal with rocks their strata and compositions lol.

Well, I'm heading home. I may or may not reply to this again tonight. Thanks LexSucks, I thoroughly enjoyed going back and forth with you. We should do a youtube series! bahahaha.

I would like to see Nicola Tesla's free energy at work instead, imagine how much less war there would be and how much cleaner the world would be.