Detroit Three Stealing Market Share From Toyota And Honda

Detroit Three Stealing Market Share From Toyota And Honda

This year, for the first time since 1988, all three Detroit automakers have gained market share in the U.S.

Now they face the challenge of maintaining or adding to those gains. General Motors and Ford benefited from new fuel-efficient cars such as the Chevrolet Cruze and Ford Fiesta that sold well when gas prices soared above $4 a gallon last spring. A tragic, but large, contributing factor was last March's massive earthquake and tsunami in Japan that caused a shortage of cars and trucks. Toyota and Honda are just beginning to recover.


 


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Agent009Agent009 - 12/13/2011 10:21:11 AM
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While there might be reasons the fact remains that the public moved on to other brands rather than wait. Now if they stay there the next time is another matter.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/13/2011 11:05:49 AM
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I feel sorry for all those Elantra buyers, I walked past one the other day and noticed a huge gap between the headlight and the hood, I was able to stick my finger in the gap.


mini22mini22 - 12/13/2011 11:14:03 AM
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Both Toyota and Honda have had a lot of negative events thrown at them this yr. With the earthquake/Sunami in Japan and the flooding in Thailand they have been suffering on the manufactoring side.The thing is this has allowed the US public to take a harder look at GM, Ford, and Chrysler then ever before. Unlike 2008 when gas prices first went over $4.00 per gallon the Big 3 now have products to offer that they did not have before.If you go on the opinion that compacts are selling better then midsize sedans then Toyota and Honda have big challenges now. Both the Corolla and Civic offer cheaper feeling and more sparton offerings then Ford, Chevy, and what appears to be soon Dodge with the new Dart.Then both Honda and Toyota are now facing the challenge from Hyundai and Kia as well. The market place is very different then what it was just a year ago.Even Subaru with it's Imprezza is a more viable alternative then Corolla and Civic. Toyota and Subaru at least are starting to get creative with the FRS and BRZ. It is going to take a lot more appealing products from both of them to halt the erosion of market share.


internationalmanofmysteryinternationalmanofmystery - 12/13/2011 2:06:59 PM
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"Detroit Three Stealing Market Share From Toyota And Honda"

So much can be said about Detroit and stealing (I won't go there,) but I think the local boys should...


CARPE DIEM!!

"...to pick, pluck, pluck off, cull, crop, gather"
"...enjoy, seize, use, make use of"
"...putting as little trust as possible in the future"


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 12/16/2011 3:52:39 AM
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How many Chryslers are Made in America? How many are actually American engineered. Wither they have German underpinnings or will be Italian. Seems like only the Wrangler will be American underneath, but oh, is it made in America?


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 12/17/2011 3:09:15 PM
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So you want us to buy Chrysler products, of which almost all of them are made in Canada, Mexico, or Germany in the case of their Sprinter Van, which has, by the way, had great success. Or the upcoming re-badged Italian cars. How about the Crossfire, made in Germany by Mercedes, it was a re-skinned Mercedes SLK, had an identical interior except for the color. I'll buy a better quality Japanese car designed and built by americans and support the hard working Americans that built it, rather than buy American and support another country and line the pockets of some fat multi millionaire exec from the American big 3 companies. I am all about supporting the working class American.


nguyenvuminhnguyenvuminh - 12/13/2011 9:02:28 PM
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What's amazing is how well Fortress Honda and Fortress Toyota had put up against gang tackling of GM, Ford, Nissan, South Korea (I think you would appreciate that huu :-) over the years. Think about it, all the resources/experience behind Ford, GM, Nissan and South Korea and they couldn't do it. It had to take i) mother nature, TWICE (earthquake caused tidal wave and nuclear leak and Thailand flooding) and ii) internal denial by Toyota, to get to this. I'm not really favoring the Big 3 or Toyota/Honda, I'm just thinking about the magnitude of the tussle over the last 25 years. Amazing case study.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:25:57 PM
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Hmmm... I think he's right...

USA debt=$14.34 trillion, population=309mill, debt per person = 46,408
Japan debt=$$7.20 trillion, population=127mill, debt per person = 56,716

The reason why this doesn't show up in your article 1911 is because your article sorts not by debt per person, but debt per unit of income.




Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:32:18 PM
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further, bill is talking about government debt, not external debt which includes corporations and individuals and can be greatly distorted based on what industries reside in the country. As per wiki.

"Note that the use of gross liability figures greatly distorts the ratio for countries which contain major money centers eg United Kingdom because of London's role as a major money centre."


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:34:21 PM
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http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=japan+government+debt+per+japan+population

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=usa+federal+debt+per+usa+population


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:44:25 PM
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Ireland $11,739

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ireland+government+debt+per+ireland+population

again, learn the difference between external and government debt.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:54:55 PM
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Wolfram alpha is the worlds largest statistics database and it has a very impressive computational engine driving it. I think it's hilarious that you're trying to put it down. Perhaps you should use it more often? Be friends with such a powerful tool, not enemies.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 2:06:46 PM
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It's pretty simple, I'll let you get the experience, why don't you enter all 193 countries that way you can have the pleasure of proving me wrong?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 2:53:51 PM
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Where did I state that I went through all of them? I looked at the top 5 countries with the highest debt (Japan being number 2) and compared them. If there is a whocaresistan with a tiny population and a higher debt per capita, I'll leave that for you to find.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 5:56:39 PM
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wow! I actually feel sorry... for your parents. Did you learn to manipulate arguments by yourself? Or is it something you were taught?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:35:08 PM
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1911, do you know the difference between government debt and external debt?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:40:24 PM
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erm I did? Or do you honestly think that external debt is the best method to measure the amount of money a government owes? I even gave you links.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:48:11 PM
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Why thank you. I'll take your sarcasm as it is the closest I'll ever get to you admitting I was correct.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 2:08:18 PM
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your cnbc article simply referenced an incorrect statistic for what it was trying to prove. It doesn't take a search engine to prove that, only a basic understanding of economics or a dictionary lol.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/14/2011 1:51:46 PM
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"The Japanese government bought Toyota their position."

You mean this line? Well that's simply you having a hard time understanding simple grammar. Do you honestly think that line means the Japanese government bought Toyota?


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