2013 Kia Forte Sketch Leaks Out - Is This What You Were Expecting From An Economy Brand?

"2011 Civic = 2012 Forte"

Not even Chinese companies will copy the new Civic's design. It is that poor. Even with Honda Civic badge that design is not selling and Honda have admitted it. They are already rushing a highly reworked(mostly styling) Civic for 2013/14. Kia is not stupid and certainly have got better designers than Honda so why copy bland and vanilla new Civic.

BTW sketch looks nice. Looks like Baby Optima.

Are they going to call it the KIA'Elantra? ;)

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I like it, definitely looks like a smaller Optima.

I don't take these conceptual sketches too seriously. They're often similar to the final product in the way that concept cars are - futuristic, attractive - but they're almost always toned down or worsened for the production car.

http://autoworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/porsche-panamera-sketch-img_3.jpg

If the Panamera looked like that, no complaints would be heard about its looks.

"Because that's all the Koreans know how to do. Wait to see what Japan does and then do the same for 30% less."

Ignoring that the Mitsbushi Lancer, VW Iroc and Toyota Tundra have the same face.

You know what? It's time to get some car design from Japan.

2002 Toyota Prius and 2012 Civic hint tailights. 2004 Oldsmovile Alero and 2004 Toyota Camry hint tailights. Infinti EX, 2009 Suburu Impreza hatch and Mazda CX-5 hint greenhouse. 2012 Nissan Versa and Mazda 3 hatch hint exteriors.

Want me to keep going Huu76? Because I can list another 500 cars if you want me too.

Lets get C pillars shall we? 2005 Honda Accord, Pontaic G6, Caddy CTS,Toyota Camry, Ford Fusion hint C pillars but only the 2010 Kia Forte would be the copy cat and ignoring that the Lincoln Zepher also has slanted C pillars.

Boxes: Hummer, Land Rover, Jeep Commander, Nissan Cube, Honda Element but only the Soul is the copy ignoring the 2011 Nissan Quest, Ford Flex and Scion XB.

Oh yeah Huu76 the 2011 Kia sorento arrived before the new Odessey did hint Headlights. Infact the Sorento concept came out wayyy before the Odessey concept arrived which was the Kia KND-4 concept.

Mazda 6, Acura ZDX and Buick Regal hint side profiles.

2006 Hyundai Sonata and Chevy Cruise hint side profiles.

Oh as the commet with the Audi tailights. Why is it that it's found on the backend of the Acra MDX. Last I checked Schyerer worked for Kia not Huh-da.

Cars with round headlights. Dodge Neon, Jaguar S type, Mercedes, Maybech, Bentlely but only the 2004 Kia Amanti was the copy ignoring that the Subaru WRX and Mini cooper also had round headlights. But since they are not Korean they are orginal. Ain't that right huu76?

SUVS with slanted C pillars, Honda Passport, Chevy Blazer, Toyota 4 Runner, 2nd generation Chevy Equionox, Mercedes M Class, Ford Explorer but only the 2003 Kia Sorento was the copy ignoring that the Isuzu Rodeo, Saab 94-b, 1st generation RX and 1st generation MDX also has slanted C pillars.

SUVs with slanted C pillars pushed toward the rear, 2nd generation Lexus RX, 2nd generation MDX, 1st generation Infinti FX, Chrysler Pacifica, Toyota Venza, Hyundai Veracruz, but only the 2011 Kia Sorento is the copy ignoring the Suzuki XL-7 also has slanted C pillars pushed toward the rear.

2009 Mazda 3 and 2004 Camry hint headlights.

Honda Ridgeline and Mazda Tirbute hint headlights.

Oh yeah. Subaur Legacy and 2012 Toyota Camry hint headlights.

2005 Toyota Avalon and 2007 Saturn Aura hint headlights.

Damn alll these non-Korean copy cats. From Acuras to Volovs. Oh gotta get volvoo. Volvoo S60 and Buick Regal hint greenhouse. There that's better.

I gotta keep going. Infinti M sedan and 2009 LaCross hint side profiles.

Oh how quickly Huu76 can get what the Forte's headlights looks like but ignrong that the Chevy Volt also has horizantal headlights.

Chevy Volt and Acura ZDX hint backend

Scion XB and Honda Pilot hint backend

Scion TC and pontaic G6 hint tailights

Ford 500, Mercedes 230, Pontiac grandprix, Mitsubishi Mirage hint tailights.

Hmmmmm who have I left out? Hmmmmmm OH how stupid of me. Why on earth did the Ford 500 copy the Audi A6's greenhouse Schyerer doesn't work for Ford.

2010 Ford Taurus and 2000 Nissan Altima hint face.

2012 Ford Taurus and 2011 Toyota Highlander hint grille. Toyota just keeps copying Ford's signature designs. For example, 2008 Ford Edge and 2009 Toyota Venza hint headlights. Everytime Ford tries to differ its designs from Toyota since it keeps copying Ford, Toyota copies.

You see hu76 car designs are my forte. You better keep out of the design area where you are weak at. Like they say if you can't stand the heat get your ass out of the kitchen.


Come on who else thinks Honda, Toyota, Chevy, GM and Chrysler are orignal. Cause I'll bring them alllll to the kitchen table.

Last I checked BMW got it's signature grille before Pontiac. I can get C pillars, tailights, headlights and side profiles.

Oh you know the Aston Martin copied Chrysler old Firepower concept from 2005?

Hey Huu76 you say Scheryer ain't orginal huh? Well tell me this, why have I yet to see an Audi grille on any Kia but I see it on the Tundra, Lancer and VW Iroc concept?

So said all on Koreans ass about copying and you wouldn't know a copy if it bit you in the ass. I bet you you think the Outlander's face is orginal don't you?

I can only laugh everytime I read this number thrown around. It has to be the IQ of the person that started such a retarded comment, or the one of anyone that believes it.

You see, my uncle happens to OWN a Hyundai dealership, and he told me his store moved more than 39 Gen's before summer even got here. That's just ONE store; last I checked there were, oh I dont know, at least a dozen or so Hyundai dealers in the U.S.

And that's just the U.S. Up in crappy canada, where they're so poor it's practically a third world country, the Gen is the 3rd best selling coupe, behind the Camstang. So, if they've sold over 2500 in that pathetic country, common sense dictates that here, where people actually have spending money, it's selling even better.

You're kidding, right? I can safely say while sitting on top of one of thousands of million-dollar lots in the Vancouver 'burbs that Canada is not impoverished.

"How about your compare segment competitors instead of a compact Audi vs a full size pickup, or a CUV vs a mini-van? "

Why? Because every car in the same segment don't look like each other that's why. For example the 2012 Versa hatch copied the Mazda 3 hatch a segment above it. Duh!!! Or the Mazda CX-5 copying the greenhouse of the Infinti EX greenhouse duh again. Huu76ack don't be jealous because I have gifted eyes vs your biased eyes.

Huu76: Honda Ridgeline and Mazda Tribute hint headlights.

Hey Huu76? Same class. Honda Accord and Legacy hint side profiles. Also add the Genesis sedan in the side profile category too even though it's not in the same class since it has an available V8 like the Pontiac G8 had before it died and ripping off the 2005 Nissan Altima's greenhouse.

Saturn Aura and 2005 Avalon hint headlights.

"Do go on. Companies from the same country can copy off one another as they're all sanctioned by their own gov'ts"

Tundra and VW Iroc concept hint face. Volvoo and Honda CR-V hint tailights. Honda Accord, BMW 3 series hint C pillars.

"Let me give you an example that pretty much sums up every industry.

Samsung Galaxy tablet: Cheap hardware with someone else's OS and design.
Asus Transformer: Hardware intentionally designed to turn tablet into a mini laptop/netbook and it looks sleek. Using someone else's OS.
Kindle Fire: Android but piggybacks on Amazon's business model and partial server-side processing to make up for the slower processor.
Palm/HP. Invented the first real tablet/portable smart device.
Apple iPad: Ease of use, design and marketability. Uses its own OS and business model.

Now tell me which one can only compete on price?"

Are we talking about cars or computers? I'm talking about car design. Computer designs and programs all copy like how the Sony Move copyied the Wii. Man you suck.

"Atleast the Japanese actually keep some Japanese names in their cars rather than giving them all European/Italian ones to fool people into thinking Hyundai/KIA is a white car company."

If anyone is ashamed of their brand it should be Daewoo. Daewoo has to use Chevy's badge in order to outsell the Rav-4 same for the Cruze as well both making top ten best selling car and SUV every month. The Sonata and Sorento, which also are top ten best sellers, have the actual Hyundai and Kia badge on them. In other words put a Daewoo badge on the Cruze and Equinox on those Chevys and then lets see if they sell.

"Toyota and Subaru are family as well, but I'm sure a design genius and expert like yourself knew that"

Ok. Now you making excusses huh. I got something for that. 2012 Subaru Impresza hatch and Dodge Caliber hint greenhouse.

Infinti G sedan and Legacy hint headlights.

Anymore cars you got left? Oh did I tell you I don't really care about the Genesisi? I thought I told you months ago. I don't care for it. I'm waiting for the Kia GT Concept waiting for it.

"Atleast the Japanese actually keep some Japanese names in their cars rather than giving them all European/Italian ones to fool people into thinking Hyundai/KIA is a white car company."

You gotta be more specific with names. This just proves how much you hate Korea.

2012 Lexus GS and BMW 7 Series hint C pillars.

You see Huu76 you suck when it comes to designs. Buick Regal, Mazda 6 and Acura ZDX hint side profiles.

Oh as for you thinking the Sedona copied the Odessey. Ok. Ignoring that the 2012 Nissan Quest copied Ford's Flex.

Nissan Sentra and Mazda 3 sedan hint greenhouse.

Tundra, Lancer and VW Iroc concept hint face.

Correction. Tundra, Lancer, VW Iroc concept, DS4 and Chevy Sonic hint face. How could I forget about the Daewoo Sonic. It is a Daewoo right with a Chevy badge? What a sell out to S. Korea. Change its name in favor for Chevy. I'm glad Kia didn't do that.

"Companies from the same country can copy off one another as they're all sanctioned by their own gov'ts."

Then how come Chevys never looked like Fords? BMWS never looked like Mercedes, Nissans never lOoked like Toyotas, Hondas never looked like Suzukis and Isuzu never looked like Mitsubishis? Nice try kiddo.
2005 Toyota Avalon and VW Phaetom hint C pillars.

Correction 2006 Toyota Avalon and VW Pheton hint C pillars. The 2004 Avalon's greenhouse ripped off Maybech's.

"The Koreans just go around blatantly ripping off other people,"

That's what Chinese cars do. You have seem them haven't you? They just rip it off like click and paste.

SUVs with slanted C pillars, Buick Rendavous, Honda Pass Port, 1st generation Lexus RX, 1st generation Acura MDX, Mercedes M Class, Toyot 4 Runner, Sequioa, Chevy Blazer but only the 2003 Kia Sorento was the copying ignoring that the Daewoo Equionox and Saab 94-b ALSO HAS SLANTED C PILLARS.

What huu76 said: You forgot they all have 4 tires too.

What Kia can't use Good Year because GM does?

"What's Hyundai going to do to slavage the sales flop Genesis Coupe. Only selling 39 over six months time is devastating."

Now you know damn well that according to Huu76 cheap and dumb white people are going to buy it because it's cheap. Ain't that right huu76? It's selling well because according to you white folks think it's a BMW and it is cheap. Rember you can't go from here to there you gotta stay within your boundary. Don't change shit now because the Genesis coupe is selling well

"Americans, being from the West, know how to innovate and create new designs. Even the Japanese can do this."

Lol. Buick LaCross and BMW hint tailights.


"btw, I said companies from the same country CAN copy from one another, it doesn't mean they do."

2012 Nissan Versa and Mazda 3 hatch hint greenhouse. Mazda CX-5 and Infinti EX hint greenhouse. Man you slow.

"Well yeah, that's what I've been saying. Why do you think Hyundai/KIA only sell well in white countries?" So what's Saturn and Suzuki's reasoning for lump sells?

"90% of Genesis sales are coupes,"

How you know?

Oh btw, the Samsung Galaxy is rated top ten best tablets. And the Sony copied the Wii remote.

"jtz7, again, according to your information, the Genesis Coupe only sold 39 units over six months. How is Hyundai going to remedy this failure?"

Last six months huh? So you saying in December, November, October, Setember, August and July I said, "Hyundai ain't sold no coupes?" Hyperlink because I can't find it. But I really don't care Kia's got a rwd coupe to unveil at NAIAS 2012. I do remeber saying that. Besides I don't know why you so jealous over the Genesis anyway it ain't grounbreaking neither performance wise or design like the Kia GT is. I told ja Kia's version was better six months ago. Their coupe will be better too than the Genesis coupe that sold more than 39 coupes all year.

" Not only is the Tundra's grille upside down, it only has 4 sides, not the 5 you so desperately want to believe."

Oh now you wanna get into real detail? Ok, Take the Kia GT. Haters like you say it looks like the Aston Martin 77 and um some Citrion. I checked it out too. Simular to what you said between the Tundra and Lancer's face and going into real detail between the Kia and Aston 77. So what's your point?

" Not only is the Tundra's grille upside down, it only has 4 sides, not the 5 you so desperately want to believe."

I'll make it better. And the Kia GT's face doesn't look exactly like the Aston Martin one 77 face neither so what's your point?