Red Light Camera Firm Threatens To Sue Anyone That Considers Removing Cameras

Red Light Camera Firm Threatens To Sue Anyone That Considers Removing Cameras
Increasingly desperate red light camera firms are taking advantage of strict contractual language in an attempt to prevent local governments from dumping their ticketing programs. Manatee County, Florida grew disenchanted with automated ticketing after signing a contract with Affiliated Computer Services (ACS), but the firm will not let the county government unplug the cameras unless it is paid $603,344.38. County commissioners yesterday moved to ignore the threat and drop the contract.

ACS had installed cameras at three intersections and started work on a fourth when the state legislature enacted a law authorizing the use of red light cameras under a number of specific restrictions. The statute took effect in July 2010 and banned the practice of paying photo enforcement vendors on a per-ticket basis. Manatee's contract specified that ACS should be paid $36.50 for each ticket the company issued. The state also took a significant cut of the fine revenue, leaving it unlikely Manatee's photo ticketing program would turn a profit. ACS and the county went back and forth for a year, unable to agree on revised terms.



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Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 10:38:51 AM
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You know a company is in the business for the wrong reasons when...


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 12:55:06 PM
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Joe, I thought that all companies were good and honest? LOL!!

And that their number one priority is to provide the best service and care without ripping people off. That is how you feel about companies right?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 1:02:55 PM
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Did I ever say companies were good and honest? No, they are neutral, not evil, not pure and wholesome, my ideals lie on the fact that competition will push companies to provide better service and care for a competitive price.


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 1:09:46 PM
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"Did I ever say companies were good and honest? No, they are neutral, not evil, not pure and wholesome"

- So this company is "neutral"?


" my ideals lie on the fact that competition will push companies to provide better service and care for a competitive price."

- So how can competition help this situation? The cameras do nothing for safety. They are just there to generate revenue (rob the average joe). How is competition going to fix that?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 1:30:33 PM
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The main problem here is the government regulations, they are allowing such a market to exist in the first place. The most competition will do is allow other traffic light companies to offer installation services that aren't on a lease basis.

If the government allowed professional hitman services would you complain at the companies filling the market, or would you complain to the government?


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 1:45:52 PM
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So are you for Government regulations? Or are you against government regulations? Or does that change depending on the argument?

And your "competition" solution only benefits the companies. Doesn't do jack to prevent people from getting robbed. Do you even care that people are getting robbed?


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 1:57:19 PM
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I'm clearly against, they are what created this industry. As removing regulations like police etc, I'm alright with that too, I'm sure it wouldn't take long before existing security companies fill the niche.

Competition allows for other companies to be hired (on a non lease basis) and for people to figure out that they are being robbed by these companies. There have already been a number of threads showing that once people figure out the scheme they try to get out of it. If competition didn't work, you would be stuck with either your tax dollars getting flushed down the drain paying off the company, or paying for the company out of your own pocket (till the lease expires).


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 2:01:21 PM
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as for* removing


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 2:10:58 PM
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Lack of Government Regulations is what's causing this problem (people getting ripped off). But this is what you are for (no regulations). You see the flaw in that ideology?

So in closing; the companies are not "neutral" (or explain to me how is this company being neutral), and you don’t care if companies rob people.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/21/2011 2:34:59 PM
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Government regulation=hiring companies like ACS and enforcing the tickets they issue. Without government support you wouldn't have to pay the tickets.


AlleVierAlleVier - 12/21/2011 3:54:42 PM
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So, I presume that without government support, people would also be free to resist arrest by the private police force you propose?


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 5:48:45 PM
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Joe, So I guess that companies aren't "neutral" after all? LOL!!! And it also doesn't seem matter to you if people are getting robbed by corporations?


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 5:50:53 PM
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Correction: Should have said "seem to matter to you".


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/22/2011 10:20:03 AM
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"So, I presume that without government support, people would also be free to resist arrest by the private police force you propose?"

You say this like it doesn't happen already! lol

Lexsucks, how on earth did you get a bias that companies are evil/good from that last post?


SteveSteve - 12/21/2011 12:06:18 PM
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The company does not sell the system to the municipality. They lease it, under contract, and they share in the revenues. It's a profit-making venture for both the company and the municipality. Part of that contract specifically states the duration of the contract term, so if citizens get pissed and want the cameras removed, the company stands to loose a lot of revenue that they are legally entitled to, under the terms of the contract. And that displeases them immensely!

Make no mistake. "Safety cameras" have nothing to do with safety. They are revenue generating schemes. Studies have clearly shown that if you want to increase intersection safety, then you can easily do so by increasing the amber-light time. Simple! But that doesn't put money in anyone's pockets, so nobody is interested in doing that.


Agent009Agent009 - 12/21/2011 1:04:38 PM
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My thoughts exactly!


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 1:04:49 PM
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The red light camera company isn't doing anything wrong. Except maybe acting like capitalists. But hey... That's the American way. Right? Rape working class Americans for every last penny possible (fair or not fair), and when people try to do something about it. The company has the right to hire million dollar layers to shoot down any lawyer that the average individual can afford.

Why do we even have a Gov't. Companies like BP and Exxon should run the country. right? Isn't something like that better for the country?


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 1:27:18 PM
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Spoken like a true corporate shill. LOL!! I'm not sure why you expect everyone else to be OK with companies robbing us? But hey... You got to protect those corporations, right?


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 1:30:45 PM
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angryinch1 expects everyone to bend over and take it. just like he does. This is funny


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 5:25:02 PM
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I don't hate free enterprise. I just hate being bent over. But if you guys are ok with that then more power to you.


LexSucksLexSucks - 12/21/2011 5:42:49 PM
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Free enterprise? What exactly is that? You want Companies and corporations to be able to do whatever they want to make money? If a company wants to dump its toxic waste into a River you guys seem to be OK with that? LOL!! Free enterprise right? Telling a company that they cannot dump toxic waste into a river or rob people is an infringement of "freedom" LOL!!!!!


You guys are so brainwashed that it isn’t even believable. How bad would America be if we didn’t have polluted rivers, and wasn’t getting robbed by corporations? The corporations have you guys tricked into thinking that it would be a horrible place to be. That’s why you fight for their right to pollute and rob people. You guys are brainwashed shills.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 12/22/2011 10:21:58 AM
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Lexsucks, you are so brainwashed by liberal media that you think that every company is trying to unload barrels of radioactive waste upstream of most drinking sources.


truckmantruckman - 12/22/2011 3:35:21 AM
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Why are drivers constantly being robbed? driving shouldn't be a tax grab, then again America is broke, and less free, now a police state, you can't even dance in public without being arrested by a very militant group of cops that are close to becoming part time employees because of the economy.


FijianFijian - 12/22/2011 5:39:47 PM
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Lexsucks needs a life.


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