OUCH: Ah, The Joys Of Owning A Bentley In The "NEW" Economy

I have predicted for quite sometime that this type of behavior will become a trend here in U.S. The wealthy and uber-rich will become targets with increased property vandalism and violence posed against them.

Monopoly, I think you're right. Envy is a nasty human trait. And, unfortunately, we have a president who rather than unite the country, prefers to pit American against American by promoting class warfare. Couple Obama's reckless rhetoric with a poor economy and a culture that promotes entitlement over personal responsibility and you have all the ingredients for social unrest. And, it won't just be the "uber-rich" that are targeted by the unproductive class and politicians looking to exploit them for political gain. Obama has determined that anyone who earns 250K per year (half that after taxes) is "wealthy" and not "paying their fair share".

MBCLS07, Yeah.... Blame everything on Obama. And class warefare is what the ultra wealthy (not $250k/ year and below earners) have been waging against the middle class and the poor since the beginning of time. How else do you explain the ever widening wage gap? Money in politics is how, and this has been happening long before Obama took office.

Entitlements? Without them you would have to bullet proof your CLS in fear of someone kidnapping you. The ever increasing wage gap doesn't help either (more desperate people). But hey... If that's the America you want? I'm all in :)

Cant wait to to the next one get trashed!

Bolshevik Revolution, French revolution, I will happen again, St James 5:1. Poor people is getting pushed to the limit....everywhere and is just like a time bomb. The distribution of the resources is not right and the governments around the globe are always creating laws to favor the Rich and detriment of poor people....so what do we expect ?..

And Also is not a problem of Obama , is a problem of every politician , they are servant of the hidden powers as dark intentions...

Yonder7 speaks the truth.

Actually, Yonder7 speaks incoherently. Only in your mind, LexSucks, would such nonsense actually make sense.

To all of those that talk about a widening gap between the rich and middle class, you seem to be talking with no knowledge or experience with the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism. Let me explain to you through my perspective, and maybe, just maybe, it will enlighten you. I was born under communist Vietnam. My parents were the richest family in our town, with a big house and several businesses. When the war ended, the communist government took everything (house, land, businesses, money, and jewelry). With no hope for a bright future, my family escaped Vietnam. After living in Hong Kong and Macau, we became legal immigrants to America. Both my parents each worked two minimum waged jobs for 4 years, until they could save enough money to open a business, which failed. Instead of giving up, they went back to work minimum wage jobs for two more years, until they were able to open another business. This time, it was successful, and we eventually had three businesses running at the same time. No way can communism have allowed us to become successful.
I have relatives who lives in Paris, France. They say that the government has substantial state enterprise and government interventions, like infrastructure sectors, railways, electricity, aircrafts, and telecommunications. Because they can are bleeding red, they are slowly selling off these entities to corporations. Also, their income tax rate is high. If you make between $33,755-$90,492, your tax rate is 30%. If you make anything above $90,492, you pay 41%. That is ridiculous. If you think the middle class gap is wide in America, look at France.
What I'm trying to say is there is no utopian society. Only free enterprise makes the best society. Yes, there is unfairness in free enterprise, but it is the best one for people to become successful. In communism, the very few are rich and most are poor. In socialistic societies, the rich buys up all the powers and owns most of the enterprises. In free enterprise societies, most can move up class, which America has done over the past decades. Don't take my words for it, research it. The rich has not been waging a war against middle class. It is the government who has grown so large that they take so much of our money, pay themselves and their interests, and given back so little to the people they say they are trying to help. I believe the larger any entity is, like government or corporations, the more difficult it is to manage and maintain. A good example is the public education system. I am a product of it. It has gotten worse, since I went to it in the 80's and early 90's. From 1984-2004, education spending has increased by 49%, but the overall scores per student have declined. That is because the money is going to bureacrats in the Education Department instead of the children. I hope my point don't fall on deaf ears.

1. Your experience of communist Vietnam is that of an authoritarian government using the theory of communism and its populist appeal as propaganda. you, along with anyone else, do know the first thing about actual communism unless you have read the communist manifesto; and judging by what you say, you clearly haven't. Just so you know, and you can check if you'd like, communism explicitly values hard work, and nowhere does it say that the state owns everything. If you work harder, you earn more and get to own more -I'm serious read it it's a small booklet-. It was devised as a fair system to counter the feudalism that existed in most of Europe at the time.
2. Either your cousins in France are lying to you, or you have made them or what they said up! I am a doctor, living in Paris, I earn a lot, pay a large sum in taxes, and I wouldn't want it any other way: our healthcare system is the best , and as a doctor i do not have to choose a course of treatment for my patients according to what suits the insurance company, or worry whether that company will manage to weasel its way out of paying, or if the patient does have some form of coverage. Our education system is the best because it gives everybody rich or poor a proper education, and a fair shot at making it in the competitive labor market: it is so good in fact that the existence of private schools and universities is fairly questionable and honestly only people who are not good enough to get into a public program based on merit, pay private institutions to get a somewhat comparable education.
3. Read "the social contract" by Jean-Jacques Rousseau and maybe you'll understand why we obey laws and pay taxes, and I honestly think you will be convinced by this brilliant book.

the only unfairness in a free market society is that not every participant is willing to take advantage of it. No one talks about individual ability, skills, intelligence and capacity to succeed. Given a free market economy the ones that are ready to take advantage and be successful will, and the majority will either be too busy watching the Bachelor or Glee or simply not put enough effort into becoming successful (the million excuse syndrome). The main reason for disparity is not the "evil" and "crooked" rich people stealing from the poor. It is MOSTLY the incapacity of the poor. Does anyone remember from the primary and secondary school years, how many kids in school exceled? there were certainly not the majority. It is the same in all aspects of life, and most clearly in sports. We have Bolt, the sprinter, as a perfect example. How many of us can perform at his level??? yet none of us question his legitimacy because he deserves his success based on his skills. So how is it that we envy and tarnish every single successful person that because of their hard work has become wealthy? Sure, there are crooks, but they exist at every socio-economic level. The problem is our government who have found that public office is an easy way to get rich by bending rules such as insider trading for congressmen. THEY have bent the rules for self profit.
Obama IS pushing a class separatist agenda because it plays into the scheme were ever more desperate Americans will be more likely to accept a more radical government (read outright SOCIALISM) than a traditional Federal Republic. Despite all the failures EVIDENT by the downspiral of socialist Europe, people in the US are still blinded by Obama's misleading charisma that is believed by less and less of his own followers.

"Sure, there are crooks, but they exist at every socio-economic level. "

- But the lower level crooks cannot bring down entire economies. Amazing how you try to equate the wealthy crooks with poor crooks (that’s just another way the brainwashed protects the wealthy). They are two completely different animals. Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme effected thousands of families and had much more reach, than a crackhead stealing a TV.


"The problem is our government who have found that public office is an easy way to get rich by bending rules such as insider trading for congressmen. THEY have bent the rules for self profit."

- And this started with Obama?


"Obama IS pushing a class separatist agenda because it plays into the scheme were ever more desperate Americans will be more likely to accept a more radical government (read outright SOCIALISM) than a traditional Federal Republic."

- Again, and this started with Obama? The patriot act and scaring the U.S into wars was in effect long before Obama took office. It started right after Sep 11 2001 and not with the Obama administration. But if you want to blame Obama for everything then I'm with you. We need a scapegoat. Anything other than blaming ourselves.

Lexsucks, it sounds as if you are almost sympathetic toward lower level crooks even though they exist in many orders of magnitude greater numbers.

Far more people are killed/raped/stolen from every year by lower level criminals. This isn't to say wealthy people have a get away free card, but it is to say that the crimes that they do commit are not as serious of a nature or as common place. And yes, I unlike you apparently do place human lives above jobs.

“Lexsucks, it sounds as if you are almost sympathetic toward lower level crooks even though they exist in many orders of magnitude greater numbers.”

- Yeah but the lower level crooks cannot bring down an entire economy like the wall st crooks. Upper level crooks can affect people in ways (investments and savings) that lower level crooks can only dream of. And how am I being sympathetic towards lower level crooks? If that’s the case, then you are being sympathetic to upper level crooks by trying to downplay their thievery and claiming that lower level crooks do more damage


“Far more people are killed/raped/stolen from every year by lower level criminals.”

- And far more people’s pensions and retirement savings are stolen from by upper class criminals every year. And I’ve yet to see a lower level criminal run a sweat-shop.


“This isn't to say wealthy people have a get away free card,”

- For the most part they do.


“but it is to say that the crimes that they do commit are not as serious of a nature or as common place. “

- Not as serious? Are you for real? Tell that to the person who lost his retirement/personal savings because of a wealthy crook. You seem to think that a purse snatcher does more damage to a person financially than Bernie Madoff. I’m not surprised that you think that lower level crooks do more damage than higher level crooks. But there’s a reason why you call them “lower level” crooks. What do you think that reason is?

“And yes, I unlike you apparently do place human lives above jobs.”

- Are you saying that I value jobs over human lives? How on earth did you come to that conclusion? So now I’m pro-business? LOL!!! This gets better every day. Nice attempt to try switch your foul views over to me. You are the one who places jobs over lives not me.

Lexsucks, the only way wall street crooks can affect your savings is if you're gambling your money away on the stock market lol. If they burn you it was your own idiocy to invest in their company. You seem to think that these criminals have the magical ability to reach into your bank account and withdraw large sums of money. They don't!

It is truly amazing that in 2012 there are still people, e.g. nvme and LexSucks, that will make excuses for and actually support communism. Unreal. Even if one were to fall for communism's utopian, highly flawed philosophy, to still support the ideology after witnessing it's devastating implementation in the 20th century is inexcusable, both intellectually and morally.

Keep your system and ass in france.....

nvme, are you for real? most of us know plenty about communism from the fall of the Soviet Union. Everything you say is false. The state DOES enforce state ownership and only those with connections have the opportunity to get rich. Same with Communist (East) Germany, I've been there. The common people lived in tiny run down apartment buildings like rats. What propaganda are you pushing? No one here under age 30 will fall for your brainwashing. I've also lived under a military dictatorship and understand the differences in government more clear than a talker like you ever will. Dwongswong's opinion has a million times more value than your rhetoric.

Wasn't sure when this thread (or website) became a political/idealogical blog.

But lets just say that these people are envious of the wealthy and the unfortunate victim of it all is a beautiful Bentley. Shame shame shame...

NVME, you are correct when you say that the Communist Manifesto values hard work for the common good of all in the society. Can you tell me what society has used that and succeeded? None that I can recall. Society is made up of mainly people who act in their best interests. Communism works great in theory, but it will never happen in the real world, which is where we live. Whenever any society tries to bring communism into it, it brings death and destruction of freedom.

Where are my cousins lying? Is the tax rate wrong? Is the fact the government owns many of the entities I've stated? You might love the healthcare and education system in your country, but America has the best healthcare system in the world. That is why many people around the world come here to get the best treatments. The education system is probably worse than France, because the government and unions have ruined it. Why do you think so many parents send their children to private school when they can, which I will when my son starts school in a couple of years.

You can keep your social contract by Jean-Jacques Roussea. That sounds good in theory like communism, but it does not work in the real world. Even China is slowly moving to capitalism. It will take them decades, but it will happen when the old leaders slowly die off.