Shouldn't A Presidential Candidate Show His Patriotism By Driving An American Car?

Shouldn't A Presidential Candidate Show His Patriotism By Driving An American Car?
Rick Santorum preaches Made in America, but, according to his tax returns, he was driving a German-made luxury car just a few years back.

Santorum, now vying with Mitt Romney for frontrunner status nationwide and leading in the race to win the Feb. 28 Republican presidential primary in Michigan, has made American manufacturing a major theme of his campaign. He has called for tax breaks for U.S. manufacturers and one section of his campaign website is called “Made in America: Empowering American Families, Building Economic Freedom.”
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Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 2/17/2012 11:48:38 AM
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Only if he's preaching toward that crowd. There are lots of people in america that hate america, or view a foreign company that has facilities here just as good... or better.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/17/2012 3:30:28 PM
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An ethnically diverse America gives everyone something to hate.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/20/2012 8:22:54 PM
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"So you expect every non-native American to leave?"

I would like America to go back to the immigration laws that were on the books pre-1965 and make them RETROACTIVE so that everyone who has since arrived here, but who would not have been eligible to come here under the previous immigration laws, would have to go back to where they came from and take their children and grandchildren with them. If at that point the native Indians can defeat the remaining whites in war, then we Europeans should also go back to Europe.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/20/2012 8:24:39 PM
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5391395

The current system of legal immigration dates to 1965. It marked a radical break with previous policy and has led to profound demographic changes in America. But that's not how the law was seen when it was passed — at the height of the civil rights movement, at a time when ideals of freedom, democracy and equality had seized the nation. Against this backdrop, the manner in which the United States decided which foreigners could and could not enter the country had become an increasing embarrassment.

An Argument Based on Egalitarianism

"The law was just unbelievable in its clarity of racism," says Stephen Klineberg, a sociologist at Rice University. "It declared that Northern Europeans are a superior subspecies of the white race. The Nordics were superior to the Alpines, who in turn were superior to the Mediterraneans, and all of them were superior to the Jews and the Asians."

By the 1960s, Greeks, Poles, Portuguese and Italians were complaining that immigration quotas discriminated against them in favor of Western Europeans. The Democratic Party took up their cause, led by President John F. Kennedy. In a June 1963 speech to the American Committee on Italian Migration, Kennedy called the system of quotas in place back then " nearly intolerable."

After Kennedy's assassination, Congress passed, and President Lyndon Johnson, signed the Immigration and Naturalization Act. It leveled the immigration playing field, giving a nearly equal shot to newcomers from every corner of the world. The ceremony was held at the foot of the symbolically powerful Statue of Liberty. Yet President Johnson tried to downplay the law's significance.

"This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions," Johnson said at the signing ceremony. "It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power."

Looking back, Johnson's statement is remarkable because it proved so wrong.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/21/2012 8:12:53 PM
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I'd tell you the answer, again, but it would just fall on deaf ears again. So tell me, again, why don't non-white nations have liberal immigration and citizenship laws like every white western nation has had for the last forty years?


SteedPubSteedPub - 2/17/2012 11:50:22 AM
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Seems to remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz last fall piously pushing the Buy American BS while she has Infiniti in her garage.


HoustonMidtownHoustonMidtown - 2/17/2012 1:21:08 PM
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Just like the Republicans


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:29:16 PM
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Yeah... Michelle Bachmann is way more tolerable.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:38:12 PM
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"I don't recall any Republicans telling what we should drive."

Nah... They're too busy telling gays that they can's get married and telling women not to use Birth Control. And in the case of Santorum; sex should only happen between a married couple and even then it shouldn't be for pleasure, just for procreating. Absolutely no pleasure sex!!! You guys are the American Taliban.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:06:32 PM
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But he isn't trying to mandate that Marriage should only be between a man and a woman like your GOP buddies are trying to do (Prop 8). And Obama only said that to satisfy the religious nutcases. He (Obama) did end DADT. Something the republicans would have never done.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:54:14 PM
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Clinton signed the law because he was under pressure from the GOP. It was a GOP sponsored bill. He owned the Taliban.... I mean the GOP a favor. If it weren’t for the GOP pushing the bill it would have never got to Clinton’s desk in the first place. Fox news only tells a small part of the actual story.


g2okg2ok - 2/17/2012 12:30:33 PM
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The Detroit Free Press is an Obama mouth piece. It has no credibility when reporting about the auto industry or anything political.

Nobody should be forced to use anything. There are plenty of independent tests and market forces that will help you determine what to car to buy. I prefer to have cars that are built in non-unionized plants.

What about our President, that totally ignores cars built in America by American workers made by Hyundai, VW, Toyota and Honda.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 2:51:11 PM
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"without proof reading or facts checking. As MSNBC, NY Times, SF Chronical....all do."

- Why did you leave out Fox News? Or do you believe that they are "fair and balanced" and always "fact check"?


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:57:19 PM
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Thought so. LOL!!!

In fact Fox news is the worse offender. Check politifact. Nevermind. Fox News viewers only accepts news from one source. Which within itself suggests that they are brainwashed.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:10:39 PM
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So are you saying that Fox News is fair and Balanced and always fact check? You didn't answer. Guess you know better?.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 5:01:23 PM
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So is Fox News "Fair and Balanced"? Do they fact check? I'm still waiting on an answer from you guys. Funny how you guys know better than to even answer that. LOL!!!


AlleVierAlleVier - 2/17/2012 1:09:53 PM
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Either consumers are buying foreign-made goods for objective reasons (better, cheaper, etc.) or subjective ones (status, cachet, etc.). Appealing to patriotism doesn't alter consumer behavior in either case, unless the consumer is part of an isolated culture and you can convince him that his well-being depends on it (think post-war Japan). It's not going to happen in the States.

Political candidates who assume the role of marketers deserve scorn, regardless of what they buy (or drive).


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:40:38 PM
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"I thought Obama had a 300C DUB series with hydraulics and curb feelers, no?"

- And you wonder why people call you a racist? LOL!!!


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:17:05 PM
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How is what he said racist?

- You can’t see that? Unbelievable! Referring that our black president drives around on Dubs with hydraulics is beyond racist. It’s vile and ignorant. The fact that you can’t see that speaks volumes about yourself.



LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 5:10:30 PM
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You Bring up an interesting point. Would pondosinatra make the same 300c on Dubs/Hydraulics comment if Romney was in office? Or when George Bush was in office? The answer to that question should tell you which half of Obama’s race that pondosinatra cares about. It’s a lose situation. He’s been exposed. He isn’t even trying to defend the blatant racism. He knows better. I think you are starting to realize the same.


AlleVierAlleVier - 2/17/2012 2:09:40 PM
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AlleVierAlleVier - 2/17/2012 4:33:48 PM
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Not exactly sure what you're talking about, as you're referencing a book and a thesis, which contain many passages, none of which was quoted by you. Even if I accept your capsule summary that the book and thesis are racially inflammatory (as if I don't accept the fact that persons of all races can be), the question remains--what about you?


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:02:07 PM
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pondosinatra feeling the heat. LOL!! Everyone knows what you're about. Stop trying to cover it up. You're not fooling anyone. And the fact that you're implying that Obama and Michelle are racists even puts you further into the loony farm (and also a deflection I might add). Please... You must think some folks here are fools.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:08:07 PM
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Post the exact quote from the book.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:48:00 PM
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Its funny how the folks who enslaved people and had government enforced racism (Jim Crow Laws) up until the late 1960's. Are claiming now that the people who they enslaved and oppressed are actually the racists. Don't you realize how stupid that sounds?


Designer1Designer1 - 2/17/2012 1:31:47 PM
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Absolutely not! When you're rich you can buy all the toys you want, so what if Santorum drives a none American car? This is how stupid our people have become to be fooled by meaningless things like these.

I'm an American and I will NEVER drive an American car. Why? Why support my rich people who produce garbage to their people and rob our money left and right, so to be American I have to support them instead of punishing them?? Bull crap!!


SteveSteve - 2/17/2012 2:11:53 PM
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I believe "patriotism" is about loving one's country. I don't think it includes the principle of buying substandard products to that struggling companies can defer their next bail-out receipt just a tad longer.

The American Way is to allow the successful to thrive, and the obsolete to pass away into obscurity. That's why buggy-whip manufacturers, wheelwrights, and horse-drawn coach builders are all a rarity now; they gave way to something better, the age of the motor car. Similarly, US auto makers tend to continue to struggle while foreign companies tend to design and build better cars.

In my anything but humble opinion, US auto makers either *can* be leaders, or the can't. The way to find out, is to stop throwing billions and billions of dollars at them when they're going bankrupt.


LuvMyLexusLuvMyLexus - 2/17/2012 2:19:05 PM
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Cars are like toasters.

At least the American cars are.


Joe_LimonJoe_Limon - 2/17/2012 2:28:38 PM
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Toasters? Like this?
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/10/feds-investigating-toyota-camry-and-rav4-over-door-fires/


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 2:54:30 PM
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Spy6,

Specifically how has your life been made worse in the last 3 years?



LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:33:29 PM
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"1. Nation Debt has doubled. I work and pay taxes unlike you."

- You don’t know anything about me. I pay taxes and I served in the military. I’m not sure why you guys make these baseless assumptions. Not your fault, you are just repeating the divisive rhetoric that you hear on Fox News. Question? Have you served in the Military? And the debt hasn't doubled. Obama just included stuff on the budget that Bush didn't. Things like the war. But Fox news wouldn't report that to you.

"2. Housing values have plummeted. My house value now is much lower thanks to Barney Frank, and the entire entitlement agenda of their housing policies."

- The Mortgage crisis (fannie mae and freddie mac) was caused by policies administered under the BUSH administration. The Housing crisis was in effect before Obama was even elected. Remember? Nice try.

"3. Obama's pick for energy secretary vowed to triple the cost of gas and energy. I'm paying MORE."

- Gas isn't at record high levels. And if he vowed to triple the price, its been 3 years, why haven't the price tripled?

"4. Obama signed legislation (unconstitutionally mind you) on NDAA taking away many of our freedoms."

- The continuation of Bush Policies. You didn't have a problem when Bush inacted the Patriot act before. Why do you have an issue with it now?

"Want me to continue!"

- Please do




LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:57:33 PM
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So those things didn't happen under Bush? You can't make up your own reality just because it doesn't coincide with your FOX News Beliefs. This is funny.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 5:18:47 PM
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Fox News. I mention it because you don't want to address the question; Is FOX News fair and balanced and do they fact check? You've been avoiding that question like the plague.

And the alternate reality exists as we speak. You are a part of it. That's why you don't want to ackowledge it. Now watch you say something like you don't watch fox news. Which would tell me that you don't value the news on that network. Answer the question please. IS FOX NEWS FAIR AND BALANCED AND DO THEY FACT CHECK? Do you watch it or not?


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 5:40:45 PM
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FOX News is a wing of the GOP. You can't see that? They’re members of the GOP that only appear on FOX and no other networks. Why is that? What does that tell you? The fact that you ONLY watch FOX news tells the rest of the world that you are brainwashed. Fox News researches their articles. LOL!!! Like they did when Breitbart had that edited video of Shirley Sherod taken out of context?

And yes I watch Rachel, John Stewart, Colbert (and Keith), I also love Bill Maher. I also watch Aljezzera and BBC news as well (CNN sucks). As opposed to what? The Jerks on FOX? O’Reilly, Hannity, and then there's that Obscene Drug abuser radio host that runs the GOP Rush Limbaugh. Now that’s a cast of characters. Lets not forget breitbart and that other guy that dresses up like a pimp. LOL!!



FijianFijian - 2/17/2012 9:29:38 PM
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What matters is where the profit will go.I dont care if the Camry is made here.Its who will eventually get the money.In the case of the Camry it will go to Japan and do you think they will spend it here


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 2/19/2012 3:00:59 AM
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I'd rather buy a Camry made here and support the hard working americans that built it then line the pockets of the rich ceos and corporate thugs by buying an American car made in Mexico or Canada.


85bmw745i85bmw745i - 2/19/2012 3:04:17 AM
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Why would I buy an American car made in another country and line the pockets of the assholes that took American jobs to build their cars overseas and in other countries so they could get a few extra million since their 40 million dollar salary check just isn't enough to get them out of poverty, and screwed all of the retired workers that stood by their product despite how inferior they were to the japanese in the 80's 90's and early 2000's


MeanVulcanMeanVulcan - 2/19/2012 4:11:59 PM
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SO what? who wants to support a UAW made product? but most importantly, if you're going to demonize foreign brand car buyers, then what about Sony consumers, Samsung, Nokia, Italian foods, French, Colombian coffee, hmm?

People want to see what they want to see. Open your eyes before blabbing stupidity!


skytopskytop - 2/20/2012 1:44:32 PM
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Get real. The media has so many critical issues to cover and they make an issue of what car a candidate drives. Like that has any bearing on the person as a viable candidate.
odumbo doesn't even have a drivers license. They don't let inept fools drive in Illinois.


skytopskytop - 2/20/2012 1:44:33 PM
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Get real. The media has so many critical issues to cover and they make an issue of what car a candidate drives. Like that has any bearing on the person as a viable candidate.
odumbo doesn't even have a drivers license. They don't let inept fools drive in Illinois.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 2:56:25 PM
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"odumbo"

- Says the man without a Harvard Law Degree. LOL!!! I'll bet my life that Obama is smarter than anyone you know and are/or related to.



LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:39:37 PM
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He has a degree. Or are you suggesting that Harvard Law degrees don't mean anything anymore? I don't think you realize what you are suggesting.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:25:54 PM
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Now you are attemtping to discredit Harvard? He graduated, and has a degree. Do you beleive that Harvard was also "in on it"? What about all the other Harvard Grads? Are they frauds? Obama is brighter than anyone of the GOP candidates that they are putting up against him. The GOP knows this but they make sure that their followers believe the opposite.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 3:49:36 PM
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But then again George Bush graduated from Yale. So I can kind of see your point. But Bush wasn't even a smooth talker.


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 4:18:33 PM
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Are you sure that ANY Harvard Grad earned their degree? What makes Obama different than all the other Harvard Grads?


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 5:41:28 PM
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Do you believe everything that the Koch Brothers are feeding you? I don't care about Obama's transcripts. Doesn't he have a Diploma? And what do you have against George Soros? I know... He helps the poor. God Forbid that anyone does that. I'd rather be associated with George Soros than with the Koch Brothers.


skytopskytop - 2/20/2012 7:06:47 PM
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The liberal socialists refuse to vet odumbo. They cover for his stupidity, his mistakes, his corruption, his clandestined activities, his illegal behavior and thefts. This country is in BIG trouble when a person with ZERO experience and a strong Marxist background is ushered into the white house as executive. It is truly sick and very sad situation. The US is in declining fast. There is NO leadership in the white house.

NY Times employment ad in 2008: WANTED: U.S. president. NO experience required.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/20/2012 8:30:08 PM
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Obama thinks they speak "Austrian" in Austria so he's obviously highly educated.

http://youtu.be/Tr7zhnctF4c


President Obama says they he has "been in 57 states".

http://youtu.be/EpGH02DtIws


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/20/2012 8:33:15 PM
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*that*


LexSucksLexSucks - 2/20/2012 10:54:07 PM
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At least Obama didn't drive around with a dog on the roof of his car, Or bring a cold dead newborn baby home. And you think that Obama making a 57 states mistake and that other non-big deal is more of a character flaw? Good luck with the whackos that you want to replace him with. Wont happen.


BrownsGoBackBrownsGoBack - 2/21/2012 8:19:05 PM
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Obama is a first class Muslim whacko.

http://youtu.be/aUNc9bWu_1I


skytopskytop - 2/21/2012 8:56:36 AM
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There is finally conclusive evidence that Osama bin Laden and Muammar Gaddafi are dead.

Yesterday, they both registered as Democrats to vote in Chicago .



RsportRsport - 2/21/2012 3:15:19 PM
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OMG! when did autospies become a haven for Tea Party delusionists. Please delete my ID. i'm out!


skytopskytop - 2/22/2012 9:30:19 AM
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obama's 2013 budget is the gift that keeps on giving—to government. One buried surprise is his proposal to triple the tax rate on corporate dividends, which believe it or not is higher than in his previous budgets.

obama is proposing to raise the dividend tax rate to the higher personal income tax rate of 39.6% that will kick in next year. Add in the planned phase-out of deductions and exemptions, and the rate hits 41%. Then add the 3.8% investment tax surcharge in ObamaCare, and the new dividend tax rate in 2013 would be 44.8%—nearly three times today's 15% rate.
obama promise America "no new taxes!" And you can 'always' believe glorious leader to tell you his twisted version of the truth!


skytopskytop - 2/22/2012 9:33:56 AM
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We all love owning and discussing expensive state of the art cars. Think you will be able to afford such a car with obama? Think again.
Read what the socialist has done and how his tax, tax, tax and spend agenda will rob you of what you sweated and worked hard for and then give it away to those who obama buys votes from with your money! Sweet corruption plan buy you can put a stop to it in November.


skytopskytop - 2/22/2012 2:43:04 PM
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Florida Drivers Shelling Out Nearly $6 A Gallon At Some Gas Stations
http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/florida-drivers-shelling-out-nearly-6-a-gallon-at-some-gas-stations/
Say "Thank you pres. obama for restricting oil exploration, blocking the XL pipeline, crippling shallow and deep water exploration, blocking new drilling permits, giving money to Brazil to drill while refusing American driller permits. Had enought of obama as he destroys America? You know what you must do in November to regain sanity in Washington!


skytopskytop - 2/22/2012 3:06:39 PM
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Like paying over $4 a gallon. How about $5 a gallon? It is happening thanks to obama socialist scheme to break America. He is printing fiat dollars 27/7 to help pay for his endless liberal spending. He wants to inflate his way out of 16 Trillion dollars of debt! Oil is priced in dollars and weak dollars means more expensive oil. That is a fact. Besides gas going through the roof, this means your food, you gas, your cars, your life becomes far more expensive as your savings and investments become worth less and less. That's the leftist obama way!


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