So 001 And Hammond LOVE The All-New BMW 3-Series, But Another BMW FAN Is Asking "What Happened?"

So 001 And Hammond LOVE The All-New BMW 3-Series, But Another BMW FAN Is Asking
Standing afar, it's been really interesting to see, hear and read the commentary on the all-new BMW 3-Series. While I've spoken with 001 extensively on BMW's all-new, high volume product, I think it's pretty clear the 3-Series will continue to set high benchmarks for the industry. The head cheese at AutoSpies isn't the only person staking this claim either as we saw over the weekend Top Gear's Richard Hammond spoke very highly of the new 3'er, calling it "Three-mendous."

But how about for the BMW purist? Well, that's where the problems start.

Though I never thought I'd say this but Consumer Reports has been catching my eye lately. While it may not be the first place to look for highly intriguing content, it is a company that does exactly what it believes is right for the consumer. You have to admire and respect that on some wavelength.

And now a BMW fan from the Consumer Report wheelhouse is speaking up with some very valid concerns surrounding the all-new BMW 3-Series. In fact, these are concerns around many recent, new Bimmers.

Here are his main beefs with the latest BMW product:

1) The 328i's motor. The new four-cylinder that's arrived stateside is not blowing Gabe Shenhar's doors off. That's because after being spoiled with BMW's arguably best motor -- the infamous inline six -- the four just doesn't have that refined and delicious character.

2) Electric steering. Shenhar's next bone to pick is with BMW's new steering set up, which drops the more communicative hydraulic steering from the previous generation. Shenhar claims that the new 3-Series feels "detached and imprecise," compared to the last generation product -- which also was knocked by many for taking a step back in steering feel.

3) Start/Stop technology. We all know that manufacturer's are being backed into a government-regulated corner in terms of emissions/mpg, this is just one area that according to Shenhar needs some refinement. He writes "Nothing wrong with that [start/stop technology] in theory, if only it restarted smoothly and without the shake that makes you think someone just rear-ended you."


So, what do you think? What has happened here?


Most people know that for years, BMW's marketing tag line has been: "The ultimate driving machine." For a long time, this strong statement was appropriate. Now, I'm not so sure. After taking our new, redesigned 2012 3 Series over hill and dale during the last few days, I'm thinking the thrill is gone.

This is a big deal for me. I've been a 3 Series enthusiast for decades. As a former proud owner of a 1977 320i and a card-carrying member of the BMW Car Club of America, I was no stranger to the cult of BMW-even well before joining Consumer Reports. And as a CR test engineer, I've tested and evaluated examples of nearly every 3 Series made in the last 20 years...


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Agent001Agent001 - 4/15/2012 11:32:06 PM
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WHINER! ;)

001


USNA1999USNA1999 - 4/16/2012 5:38:42 AM
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Really? CR? Like I stated before, CONSUMER REPORTS needs to stick with testing appliances. I highly doubt that BMW's target market will care at all what CR has to say about the 3-Series assuming they even read that garbage.


Agent00RAgent00R - 4/16/2012 9:14:54 AM
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@USNA

As I said, it is a good publication FOR THE CONSUMER, not the enthusiast.

Speaking of which, the enthusiast is a dwindling MINORITY.


TehShibbsTehShibbs - 4/16/2012 2:01:44 PM
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You've got a very good point, as most American 16 year-olds would rather have an iPhone than a car.


HoustonMidtownHoustonMidtown - 4/16/2012 7:18:46 AM
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They are the same points being brought up by all reviews....


Agent00JAgent00J - 4/16/2012 8:45:42 AM
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I haven't driven the new 3 yet, but I thought it interesting in the most recent comparison done by Car & Driver, arguably the only car magazine with any credibility, the author states that while the new 3 beats everything else in the market right now, perhaps the only car that could beat the new 3 is the old 3.

-00J


abqhudsonabqhudson - 4/16/2012 10:11:38 AM
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The current stop/start on the 3er and 5er is anything but ULTIMATE. The 4 cylinder turbo motor - rough and sounds bad - will not satisfy long-time US BMW owners. Bring back the sixes. I realize that BMW never corrects its mistakes (no spare, runflats, etc) so I'm not holding my breath. I'm keeping my straight six BMWs, but, when they play out,I will be looking for another brand.


bigheadmazdabigheadmazda - 4/16/2012 11:54:54 AM
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I haven't driven the latest 3 series, so I can't comment on how the new technology has changed the feel of the new 3 series. However, I don't need to drive the new 3 to see how hideous the front end of this car is. The car is beautiful from the rear bumper to just past the front wheels. From their it's a disaster. It looks like a giant stomped on the front end of the outgoing 3 series. From the side view the front of the car looks like a bottlenose dolphin. I just can't get past it. If you need me I'll be standing in the lot by the 535i and 550i's until a new 3 comes out.


vogeygolfvogeygolf - 4/16/2012 12:05:07 PM
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If you don't like the turbo 4, the 335i still gets 21/30. Buy that.

Unfortunately, we've started down a path that will make 4 cylinder turbos standard fare in most cars in the next few years.

I've test driven the 328i a couple of times, but unfortunately, the weather was too cold for the start/stop to work. I did read some other comments it's rough in the manual, but reasonably smooth with the auto box.


enthusiastx11enthusiastx11 - 4/16/2012 1:26:37 PM
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it's a great car without a doubt. and still best in class. but i agree the new BMWs (like my F10 5-series) have lost what was ALWAYS their standout quality: communicative steering feel. it's what brought me back to BMW again and again after testing driving other cars.

i can honestly say i won't be buying another BMW with electric power steering unless they massively revamp it. the only BMW i would consider at this point is the new M5 or the upcoming M3 (both with hydraulic power steering).


CarCrazedinCaliCarCrazedinCali - 4/16/2012 1:44:02 PM
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I have driven the new N20 (4cyl) with Start/Stop and was also disappointed in the smoothness of the Start/Stop function of the motor. True the N20 is not as buttery as the I-6 of the past, but I still ordered my Z4 with this N20 as I find it still to be powerful and the mileage gains are worth it to me. The new 3 series is getting more and more refined and less and less like a road monster than some generations past 3ers were. Perhaps those enthusiasts after the Ultimate Driving Machine should stick to the 135s and 1Ms and call it a day. Brands change and evolve, BMW is still on top and can't please EVERYONE. My $.02


TauronB2GTauronB2G - 4/16/2012 6:30:56 PM
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I drove the new 328 about 2 weeks ago and for the most part I liked the car. I have a major issue with 50 k for a 4 cylinder anything though. Sure it starts right about 35 which is still too much, but when you start adding the options it gets pricey real quick. The old 6 was a nice engine and the new 4 while on paper has more power to me the old one felt stronger. Also the steering is not as connected as the last car and driven back to back you can feel the difference. The start stop is a nice gadget but I got sick of it during my test drive and it would be disabled during my daily drives.
T


Agent00RAgent00R - 4/16/2012 9:00:52 PM
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Well, BMWs have never been known to option up for cheap.

Interesting that you echo the author's comments about the more powerful four-cylinder not feeling as powerful -- or barely noticed -- over the older inline six.


mini22mini22 - 4/16/2012 9:14:04 PM
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I sat in a 328 at an auto show. It did not have a lot of options on it. I thought the dashboard of the previous 3 series was more attractive.I don't have a problem with the exterior. However I cannot see how Car and Driver rated the 328 #1 with it's electric steering(which they even critisized). Also I've driven older Beemers. If there were 2 things that stood out it was the delishes sound of that creamy N/A inline six and great steering feel. Publications have complained about the new 911's steering feel compared to the older hydralic. However they said it was the best electric system out there. It appears the BMW system is NOT the best out there. A shame really.Unfortunately this steering thing will probably be an industry wide thing in the next 5 yrs so so I guess we are going to have to live with it.Further it does not seem as though the BMW 4 cylinder is the best out there either. It would be an interesting comparison to compare the Audi turbo 4 in the TTS to the Beemer turbo 4 in the 328.


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