Are They Kidding? GM May Take On Subaru's BRZ With The 130R Concept

Are They Kidding? GM May Take On Subaru's BRZ With The 130R Concept
Could General Motors build an all-new compact sports car for under $30,000, with a high-output 4-cylinder engine and rear-wheel drive? According to a report in the latest issue of Australia's Wheels Magazine, the answer so far is a secretive "yes."

The rendering is an Aussified version of the Chevrolet Code 130R concept first shown last January at the North American International Auto Show. Wheels is calling it the modern-day Holden Torana, the sporty Australian compact built from 1967 to 1980 that led racing driver Peter Brock to numerous victories in the '70s.
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NostradamusNostradamus - 4/19/2012 3:46:28 PM
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Why Not ?

... and it'll likely be quicker/faster/less expensive than the rather (disappointingly) lethargic/pricey Subarota effort.


MorePowerMorePower - 4/19/2012 7:19:59 PM
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Yes, but the BRZ will have a higher resales value, better interior, probably more reliable and better able to absorb high-powered performance upgrades.

The most important difference is that the BRZ, and the Toyota version, look a lot better than the current version of the 130R concept.


91z4me91z4me - 4/20/2012 12:07:56 PM
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MorePower,

Since you seem to be able to predict the future (residuals and what not) what are the Powerball numbers for Saturday?


dumpstydumpsty - 4/20/2012 7:29:26 PM
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idk. don't count GM out on this one. GM has made increasingly good strides on design & quality - on par with Toyota & Honda now. As long as the possible Torana copy doesn't have a UI & center console like the Spark. Also, the small ToyoBaru BRZ competitor must be assembled in North America, otherwise production costs will negate possible low-/mid-$20k transaction prices.


ThegeekThegeek - 4/19/2012 11:18:56 PM
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Right on, MorePower. Not only will the BRZ have a higher resale value, but it will be more dependable/reliable. A lot of people believe it or not, do not understand that in just a matter of a few years, the Chevy will lose its value so much more quickly than the Subaru. They find out too late, when they trade it in or get the Kelly Blue Book value of the Chevy when they try to sell it on their own, and are so disappointed that they get half the value of what they would have gotten with the Subaru or the Scion FR-S.


wins555wins555 - 4/20/2012 1:08:53 AM
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GM cant compete in this category. Period. GM should concentrate on the mass market midsize to larger cars and trucks as these are their area of "expertise" and the world respects them for this.


91z4me91z4me - 4/20/2012 12:01:29 PM
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Why can't GM compete? They owned a large majority of this segment for decades (Nova, Monza). If any company can compete in the sporty RWD compact market it is them.

Remember they just launched the Alpha chassis under the ATS that is supposed to spawn the next Camaro and several other compact RWD vehicles.


LexSucksLexSucks - 4/20/2012 10:47:21 AM
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Take on Subaru's BRZ? What is the BRZ the king of?


MorePowerMorePower - 4/20/2012 11:44:56 PM
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@ 91z4me

The Subaru will have a higher resale value because Subaru is a small vehicle manufacturer compared to GM. In addition to this, Subaru has already said that they will be producing the BRZ in limited quantities.

Small volume producer making a limited run vehicle = higher resale value

Secondly, if the 130R makes it into production, it will not be hard to find. If anything, American dealers will markup the price so much, that it will be cheaper/same price as a V6 Camaro. Between the Camaro, even the V6 version and the 130R, the Camaro wins. The 130R is no 1M!

Subaru's are notoriously over built. I'm sure the BRZ, in stock form, could easily handle another 150+ hp, It will probably be able to cope with an additional 200 hp.


MorePowerMorePower - 4/20/2012 11:47:20 PM
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Mistype: The 130R will slightly less expensive, or the same price as . . .
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